Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
On 2011-02-05 15:55, matti christensen wrote: - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) You only need Python to compile; you do not need it to run libxcb. Feel free to remove python when you are done, or cross-compile from another system. Peter Harris -- Open Text Connectivity Solutions Group Peter Harrishttp://connectivity.opentext.com/ Research and DevelopmentPhone: +1 905 762 6001 phar...@opentext.comToll Free: 1 877 359 4866 ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
yes - well i am afraid and don't like snakes. i downloaded libX 1.3.2 i really hope you get rid of such dependency to something that may or may not be in one's system = keep to basics /mc Quoting Peter Harris phar...@opentext.com: On 2011-02-05 15:55, matti christensen wrote: - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) You only need Python to compile; you do not need it to run libxcb. Feel free to remove python when you are done, or cross-compile from another system. Peter Harris -- Open Text Connectivity Solutions Group Peter Harrishttp://connectivity.opentext.com/ Research and DevelopmentPhone: +1 905 762 6001 phar...@opentext.comToll Free: 1 877 359 4866 ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mat...@iki.fi keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
On 2011-02-07 10:31, matti christensen wrote: i am afraid and don't like snakes. i downloaded libX 1.3.2 i really hope you get rid of such dependency to something that may or may not be in one's system = keep to basics Python isn't my favourite language either, but it's much better than the previous XSLT implementation. I don't think it's too much of a burden to expect python on a build machine. That said, if you think you can do a better job in a different language we'd love to see your alternative. Peter Harris -- Open Text Connectivity Solutions Group Peter Harrishttp://connectivity.opentext.com/ Research and DevelopmentPhone: +1 905 762 6001 phar...@opentext.comToll Free: 1 877 359 4866 ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
I know I'm biased, but Python is generally available on systems. RPM-based systems and Gentoo require it, and most other distros need it in their base layout. (Slack might be the exception here.) I'm deeply sorry that you don't like Python, but it's not a dependency anybody feels like working around. Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C. On Feb 7, 2011 7:31 AM, matti christensen mat...@iki.fi wrote: yes - well i am afraid and don't like snakes. i downloaded libX 1.3.2 i really hope you get rid of such dependency to something that may or may not be in one's system = keep to basics /mc Quoting Peter Harris phar...@opentext.com: On 2011-02-05 15:55, matti christensen wrote: - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) You only need Python to compile; you do not need it to run libxcb. Feel free to remove python when you are done, or cross-compile from another system. Peter Harris -- Open Text Connectivity Solutions Group Peter Harris http://connectivity.opentext.com/ Research and Development Phone: +1 905 762 6001 phar...@opentext.com Toll Free: 1 877 359 4866 ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mat...@iki.fi keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mostawesomed...@gmail.com ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
yes - i'm sure you know what you are doing and also are familiar with main stream systems it just so happens that i'm really aschetic and am now building environment for Lemote Fuloong 2F my distributions have been like early Slackware ( beginning from kernel 1.2.13 ), later Core-Linux ( 2.4.n ) and after that Crux -- which i've installed as minimal as possible to be able to compile the stuff i need myself ... that is to say that i certainly won't install a single binary which i know i newer need, or accept init script spaghetti of many systems, etc. sometimes it is rather frustrating, from my humble point of view, to note that there are many ways of translating the word 'simple' - i think simple is something that even i'm able to understand and manage... no need to go on with this issue - we'll live with it /mc Quoting Corbin Simpson mostawesomed...@gmail.com: I know I'm biased, but Python is generally available on systems. RPM-based systems and Gentoo require it, and most other distros need it in their base layout. (Slack might be the exception here.) I'm deeply sorry that you don't like Python, but it's not a dependency anybody feels like working around. Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C. On Feb 7, 2011 7:31 AM, matti christensen mat...@iki.fi wrote: yes - well i am afraid and don't like snakes. i downloaded libX 1.3.2 i really hope you get rid of such dependency to something that may or may not be in one's system = keep to basics /mc Quoting Peter Harris phar...@opentext.com: On 2011-02-05 15:55, matti christensen wrote: - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) You only need Python to compile; you do not need it to run libxcb. Feel free to remove python when you are done, or cross-compile from another system. Peter Harris -- Open Text Connectivity Solutions Group Peter Harris http://connectivity.opentext.com/ Research and Development Phone: +1 905 762 6001 phar...@opentext.com Toll Free: 1 877 359 4866 ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mat...@iki.fi keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mostawesomed...@gmail.com keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:40:44AM -0500, Peter Harris wrote: On 2011-02-07 10:31, matti christensen wrote: i am afraid and don't like snakes. i downloaded libX 1.3.2 i really hope you get rid of such dependency to something that may or may not be in one's system = keep to basics Python isn't my favourite language either, but it's much better than the previous XSLT implementation. I don't think it's too much of a burden to expect python on a build machine. It's a pain on *BSD where python is not part of the base system. To be able to let users build X on a base system with no additional packages installed, we provide pre-generated c-code for xcb. So only developers who want to touch the xml files need to install python. -- Matthieu Herrb ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
i'm new with this list but compiled X on Linux from Linux kernel 1.2.13 - and now i have my first real problem as i downloaded source from http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.6/src/everything/ = - it seems to me that i'm unable to compile libX 1.4.0 without libxcb - that's perfectly ok for me, but do i need libxcb is unclear ( i have SiS 315PRO on Lemote Fuloong 2F ) - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) - it also looked lot like impossible to build Python 2.7.1 without TCL/TK ( which i do not need or want on my system ) - as tried to compile TK 8.5.9 i bumbed to errors telling me i ought to have X on my system would some nice person be kind enough to give me some feedback and comments on this ( using some package management system is no answer as i have no and am not going to install any ) matti christensen keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
You appear to be roughing it for some reason. Since the normal pieces of advice aren't things you want to hear, maybe this will help: You can disable Tk support when building Python. You can also exclude XCB by building an Xlib from the 1.3 series instead of 1.4. Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C. On Feb 5, 2011 1:52 PM, matti christensen mat...@iki.fi wrote: i'm new with this list but compiled X on Linux from Linux kernel 1.2.13 - and now i have my first real problem as i downloaded source from http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.6/src/everything/ = - it seems to me that i'm unable to compile libX 1.4.0 without libxcb - that's perfectly ok for me, but do i need libxcb is unclear ( i have SiS 315PRO on Lemote Fuloong 2F ) - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) - it also looked lot like impossible to build Python 2.7.1 without TCL/TK ( which i do not need or want on my system ) - as tried to compile TK 8.5.9 i bumbed to errors telling me i ought to have X on my system would some nice person be kind enough to give me some feedback and comments on this ( using some package management system is no answer as i have no and am not going to install any ) matti christensen keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mostawesomed...@gmail.com ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: how can one build X without libxcb, or libxcb without python, or python without tcl/tk, or tcl/tk without X ?
no - i'm just being both old and just right now a bit tired = i'm sorry as i've managed not to be polite - it has been unintentional partly because english is not my native language /mc Quoting Corbin Simpson mostawesomed...@gmail.com: You appear to be roughing it for some reason. Since the normal pieces of advice aren't things you want to hear, maybe this will help: You can disable Tk support when building Python. You can also exclude XCB by building an Xlib from the 1.3 series instead of 1.4. Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C. On Feb 5, 2011 1:52 PM, matti christensen mat...@iki.fi wrote: i'm new with this list but compiled X on Linux from Linux kernel 1.2.13 - and now i have my first real problem as i downloaded source from http://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.6/src/everything/ = - it seems to me that i'm unable to compile libX 1.4.0 without libxcb - that's perfectly ok for me, but do i need libxcb is unclear ( i have SiS 315PRO on Lemote Fuloong 2F ) - it appears to me that i'm not able to compile libxcb 1.7 without Python ( which i do not need or want on my system ) - it also looked lot like impossible to build Python 2.7.1 without TCL/TK ( which i do not need or want on my system ) - as tried to compile TK 8.5.9 i bumbed to errors telling me i ought to have X on my system would some nice person be kind enough to give me some feedback and comments on this ( using some package management system is no answer as i have no and am not going to install any ) matti christensen keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: mostawesomed...@gmail.com keep-IT-simple ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
