Is there any chance to get video decoding (x264, vc1) implemented?

2010-02-02 Thread Marco Schinkel
Hello,

currently is seems to be impossible to get hardware acccelerated video
decoding with open source drivers (except broadcom bcm700xx) and all
google search results on this topic pointed to fglrx and xvba. I wonder
what the reason may be. Was the information needed to interface the
decoding unit not included in the documentation that AMD released last
year?

KMS, Xvideo and even 3D is working really nice with current
xf86-video-ati and libdrm (from git). With my 3870 and 4350 2D works
much better with the open source drivers than with fglrx recently. A
working vaapi is the only thing missing.

I would like the radeon wiki page (http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon) and/or
the vaapi wiki page (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi) to
have this topic included. I just dont have enough information to write
something useful.

Does anyone know more about this? I assume there are licensing problems
involved again.


Best regards

Marco Schinkel
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Bug#567999: xserver-xorg-video-radeon: Please compile with kernel-based modesetting (KMS) enabled

2010-02-02 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On 2 February 2010 06:40, Pauli Nieminen suok...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Brice Goglin brice.gog...@ens-lyon.org
 wrote:
 Last time I tried, I had some problems with the radeon kernel driver
 being loaded too late (see [1]). What do you use on Ubuntu in
 /etc/modprobe.d/ or on the kernel command line ?

 Brice

 [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25607

 Ubuntu is putting radeon.ko (+drm.ko+ttm.ko+drmkmshelper.ko) to initrd and
 loading it early in the boot. I don't know the details how it is archived.

I don't know about Ubuntu, but I managed to get radeon.ko loaded early in
the boot process on Debian by including it in the initramfs with a hook script.

It could be loaded earlier and easier, except for udev not being available to
handle the firmware loading when /etc/initramfs-tools/modules is processed.

See Debian bug 561476 [1] for my fix, and bugs 543717 [2] and 557439 [3] for
related initramfs/firmware discussion.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/561476
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/543717
[3] http://bugs.debian.org/557439

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Re: Is there any chance to get video decoding (x264, vc1) implemented?

2010-02-02 Thread Alex Deucher
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Marco Schinkel schink...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,

 currently is seems to be impossible to get hardware acccelerated video
 decoding with open source drivers (except broadcom bcm700xx) and all
 google search results on this topic pointed to fglrx and xvba. I wonder
 what the reason may be. Was the information needed to interface the
 decoding unit not included in the documentation that AMD released last
 year?

 KMS, Xvideo and even 3D is working really nice with current
 xf86-video-ati and libdrm (from git). With my 3870 and 4350 2D works
 much better with the open source drivers than with fglrx recently. A
 working vaapi is the only thing missing.

 I would like the radeon wiki page (http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon) and/or
 the vaapi wiki page (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi) to
 have this topic included. I just dont have enough information to write
 something useful.


R1xx-r5xx GPUs use the 3D engine to accelerate video decode.
r1xx-r2xx have a special video mode in the 3D engine and r3xx-r5xx use
shaders.  R6xx+ have a decoder block (UVD), but they could also use
shaders to implement video decode just like the previous chips.  All
of the info needed for a shader-based implementation is available:
http://www.x.org/docs/AMD
http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDK/ATIStreamSDKv1.4Beta/Pages/default.aspx
http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDK/pages/Documentation.aspx
But at the moment, no one has done the implementation.  We are
investigating if we can release any information about UVD, but there
are potential problems due to the drm requirements of other systems.

Alex

 Does anyone know more about this? I assume there are licensing problems
 involved again.


 Best regards

 Marco Schinkel
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is rc410 considered part of R400?

2010-02-02 Thread Andres Cimmarusti
Hello,

In the Radeon features page as well as the main page hosted by xorg, only the 
status of Rx00 chipsets is displayed. 

Is the RC410 chipset part of which of these families? is it simply R400?

I apologize for the basic question, but I wanted to clarify this. Thank you in 
advance 

Andres



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Re: is rc410 considered part of R400?

2010-02-02 Thread Alex Deucher
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Andres Cimmarusti 
andrescimmaru...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello,

 In the Radeon features page as well as the main page hosted by xorg, only
 the status of Rx00 chipsets is displayed.

 Is the RC410 chipset part of which of these families? is it simply R400?


It's actually an rs400-based IGP chip.  The 3D engine is rv370 based.

Alex



 I apologize for the basic question, but I wanted to clarify this. Thank you
 in advance

 Andres


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[Bug 26375] contents of java applications not displaying

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26375





--- Comment #2 from Brian Paterni bpate...@gmail.com  2010-02-02 10:37:59 PST 
---
* bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org [2010-02-01
22:28:08 -0800]:
 --- Comment #1 from Alex Deucher ag...@yahoo.com  2010-02-01 22:28:08 PST 
 ---
 Is this an OpenGL app? 

I'm not sure if Maple uses OpenGL. It's math software so it is possible that it
uses it to render 3d plots, etc.

 Does it display correctly using the vesa driver?

I haven't tested it with vesa yet... Is it possible to get it running on kms?


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[Bug 26375] contents of java applications not displaying

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26375





--- Comment #3 from Clemens Eisserer linuxhi...@gmail.com  2010-02-02 
10:39:39 PST ---
No, maple is a normal Java application using Swing which is based on Java2D.


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[Bug 26375] contents of java applications not displaying

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26375





--- Comment #4 from Alex Deucher ag...@yahoo.com  2010-02-02 10:53:03 PST ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 
 I haven't tested it with vesa yet... Is it possible to get it running on kms?
 

You'll have to disable kms to try vesa.  disable kms and set the driver line in
your xorg.conf to vesa.


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[Bug 26375] contents of java applications not displaying

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26375





--- Comment #5 from Brian Paterni bpate...@gmail.com  2010-02-02 11:21:40 PST 
---
* bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org [2010-02-02
10:53:04 -0800]:
 --- Comment #4 from Alex Deucher ag...@yahoo.com  2010-02-02 10:53:03 PST 
 ---
 (In reply to comment #2)
  
  I haven't tested it with vesa yet... Is it possible to get it running on 
  kms?
  
 
 You'll have to disable kms to try vesa.  disable kms and set the driver line 
 in
 your xorg.conf to vesa.

Okay thanks, I'm still getting the same results with vesa...


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[Bug 26375] contents of java applications not displaying

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26375





--- Comment #6 from Alex Deucher ag...@yahoo.com  2010-02-02 11:28:43 PST ---
(In reply to comment #5)

 Okay thanks, I'm still getting the same results with vesa...
 

Looks like a java or xserver bug then rather than a radeon bug.


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[Bug 26375] contents of java applications not displaying

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Re: is rc410 considered part of R400?

2010-02-02 Thread Andres Cimmarusti
Ok, but this still doesn't answer my question. When I go to these websites:

http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon

In the first one, I can only see info for RX00, RS690 and Evergreen... and the 
2nd website has only info about RX00 (that status part). Do these things apply 
to my chipset as well?...under what family are they included?...or are they not 
included at all...if so, then what is the status of 2D and 3D acceleration for 
the RC410 chipset (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955)?...that is, is 
it using EXA and it is stable..what is missing?

Thanks

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: is rc410 considered part of R400?
To: Andres Cimmarusti andrescimmaru...@yahoo.com
Cc: xorg-driver-ati@lists.x.org
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 1:17 PM


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Andres Cimmarusti andrescimmaru...@yahoo.com 
wrote:


Hello,

In the Radeon features page as well as the main page hosted by xorg, only the 
status of Rx00 chipsets is displayed. 

Is the RC410 chipset part of which of these families? is it simply R400?



It's actually an rs400-based IGP chip.  The 3D engine is rv370 based.

Alex
 

I apologize for the basic question, but I wanted to clarify this. Thank you in 
advance 

Andres





  
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Re: is rc410 considered part of R400?

2010-02-02 Thread Alex Deucher
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Andres Cimmarusti 
andrescimmaru...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ok, but this still doesn't answer my question. When I go to these websites:

 http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
 http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon

 In the first one, I can only see info for RX00, RS690 and Evergreen... and
 the 2nd website has only info about RX00 (that status part). Do these things
 apply to my chipset as well?...under what family are they included?...or are
 they not included at all...if so, then what is the status of 2D and 3D
 acceleration for the RC410 chipset (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M
 5955)?...that is, is it using EXA and it is stable..what is missing?


You chip would fall into the r300 category on those sites.

Alex



 Thanks

 --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: is rc410 considered part of R400?
 To: Andres Cimmarusti andrescimmaru...@yahoo.com
 Cc: xorg-driver-ati@lists.x.org
 Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 1:17 PM



 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Andres Cimmarusti 
 andrescimmaru...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=andrescimmaru...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

  Hello,

 In the Radeon features page as well as the main page hosted by xorg, only
 the status of Rx00 chipsets is displayed.

 Is the RC410 chipset part of which of these families? is it simply R400?


 It's actually an rs400-based IGP chip.  The 3D engine is rv370 based.

 Alex


  I apologize for the basic question, but I wanted to clarify this. Thank
 you in advance

 Andres


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[Bug 26398] New: radeon x3450 xrandr dual dvi blank screen

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26398

   Summary: radeon x3450 xrandr dual dvi blank screen
   Product: xorg
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: x86 (IA32)
OS/Version: Linux (All)
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: medium
 Component: Driver/Radeon
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xrandr with both monitors

i am having problems with dual dvi monitors, no matter which one is connected
to first port stays blank
it seems xrandr is working, i can expand display to blanked monitor, i can open
windows on it, but it won't come out of standby

here is a snippet from Xorg.0.log
(II) RADEON(0): Port0:
  XRANDR name: DVI-1
  Connector: DVI-I
  CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
  DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
  DDC reg: 0x7e40
(II) RADEON(0): Port1:
  XRANDR name: DVI-0
  Connector: DVI-I
  CRT2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
  DFP2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
  DDC reg: 0x7e50


Port0 is always blank, Port1 works fine

i use driver 6.12.4. xorg-server 1.6.3, kernel 2.6.32.7, no KMS
my card is
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3470
01:00.0 0300: 1002:95c0


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[Bug 26398] radeon x3450 xrandr dual dvi blank screen

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from pha b...@phacka.sk  2010-02-02 13:56:52 PST ---
Created an attachment (id=33016)
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xorg log


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[Bug 26398] radeon x3450 xrandr dual dvi blank screen

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 26398] radeon x3450 xrandr dual dvi blank screen

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26398





--- Comment #2 from pha b...@phacka.sk  2010-02-02 14:02:17 PST ---
little clarification, it is a pci-express card although lspci says it is
mobility radeon
Xorg.0.log states:
(--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon HD 3470 (ChipID = 0x95c0)
...
...
(II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: 
SubsystemVendorID: 0x174b SubsystemID: 0xe390
IOBaseAddress: 0x3000
Filename: s4e3901sa.01
BIOS Bootup Message: 
11x-04E39-001SA-010 RV620 GDDR3_16Mx32 64bit 256MB 800e/800m


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[Bug 26398] radeon x3450 xrandr dual dvi blank screen

2010-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Alex Deucher ag...@yahoo.com  2010-02-02 14:35:02 PST ---
Can you try xf86-video-ati from git master?


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