Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Thomas S. Iversen

 Can a nvidia riva tnt2 M64 support this? Other option would be to buy an ati 

Dunno about the tnt2. I once had a Hitachi fixed frequency monitor
atteched to a nvidia riva 128 based card. Worked like a charm. I can't
think of any reasons why you shouldn't be able use the monitor on the
tnt2, but I could be wrong.

 Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X (no 
 console or boot messages)?

That's were the problems arise. The bios normally initializes the gfx chip
to display standard vga, which often isn't what highend sun monitors
displays. So until you reprogram the gfx chip your monitors display  is
going to be garbled. Either waiting for X to start or enabling
framebuffer support in linux (if you need to see linux startup msg) will
work.

One last thing to consider is powermangement. You need to make sure that
the converter cable will work with the monitor in that regard (so that the
monitor get the wake up clue)

Regards Thomas, Denmark

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[Xpert]X Configuration Problems: Redhat 7.2 -- XFree86 -- HP Pavilion N3210 Laptop

2002-02-24 Thread Matt Sickles

After working for several days I am no closer than before in getting my
HP Pavilion N3210 laptop up and running.  I get the macro 320x240 view
and that is all that is available to me.

I have experimented with a lot of settings within the XF86Config files
and am pretty convinced I have it down to the Monitor settings as the
issue.

I am almost 100% confident that the section I have for the driver is
correct, but I could use any help available for the monitor refresh
settings.

I have looked through the list archive but found no reference for the
N3210 HPA LCD settings.  Anyone who has this information and could share
it I would be greatly appreciative.

XF86Config


Section Monitor
   Identifier  LaptopLCD
   VendorName  Hewlett Packard
   ModelName   LaptopLCD
   HorizSync31.5-37.9
   VertRefresh  55-90
ModeLine 800x600 36 800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625
Modeline 800x600 40 800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628
+hsync +vsync
Modeline 800x600 50 800  856  976 1040   600  637  643  666
+hsync +vsync
Modeline 800x600 60.75  800  864  928 1088   600  616  621  657
-HSync -VSync
Modeline 800x600 69.65  800  864  928 1088   600  604  610  640
-HSync -VSync
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  Trident CyberBlade i7d
   VendorName  Trident Microsystems
   BoardName   Trident CyberBlade i7d
   Chipset cyberblade
EndSection

Section Screen
   Driver  svga
   Device  Trident CyberBlade i7d
   Monitor LaptopLCD
   DefaultColorDepth 16
   BlankTime   0
   SuspendTime 0
   OffTime 0
   SubSection Display
  Depth8
  Modes800x600
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth16
  Modes800x600
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
  Depth24
  Modes800x600
   EndSubSection
EndSection

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[Xpert]MGA: blinking cursor or garbage

2002-02-24 Thread Rene Rebe

Hi all.

There seems to be a problem with the XFree-4 (at least 4.1.0 and
4.2.0) when the Matrox framebuffer is used for the vt. The hardware
mousecursor is blinking in the inversed color. Affected are at least
the G200 and G400. Strange enough my G450 works in this combination.

With the 4.1.0 release the Option HwCursor false helped. But with
4.2.0 the G400 produces a very large blinking square of random pixel
garbage in the top,levt corner and with the G200 a normal text-cursor
is blinking in the top,left corner.

The hardware cursor seems to be incorrectly initialized.

We use selfcompiled vanilla sources of the releases compilied by
gcc-2.95.3. All the rest works as usually very good! ;-)

Thanks.
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Re: [Xpert]4.2.0 and SuSE 7.3

2002-02-24 Thread Vladimir Dergachev



On 23 Feb 2002, John L. Pierce wrote:

 Installed SuSE 7.3 system runs fine, upgraded to 4.2.0 and system still
 runs fine but no hardware acceleration on a Rage 128 Chip from ATI.  I
 read on XFree86's web site that the specific chip set I have is
 supported with the ati driver, but when configuring the card the only
 driver available is r128.

 Had switched to Mandrake 8.1 before SuSE 7.3, and had full hardware
 acceleration, but the distro was unstable in my opinion and printing
 completely bogged the systems down, network printing was never fully
 configurable either.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

See http://gatos.sf.net/dri-debug.php

  Vladimir Dergachev


 TIA

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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Thomas Steffen

Frank Van Damme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's a certain HV refresh rate; someone told me for 1152x900 it
 would be 61,8 KHz H and 66 Hz V.

This is most likely wrong, the 1962b in its factory setting likes H
around 72 kHz to maybe 78kHz. 1280x960 is my preferred resolution.

You can try these modelines:

ModeLine 1152x864   115 1152 1200 1300 1600   864 864 868 900 -hsync 
-vsync
ModeLine 1280x960   131 1280 1336 1456 1680   960 964 968 1000 -hsync 
-vsync

 Can a nvidia riva tnt2 M64 support this? 

Most likely yes. There are only a few broken cards that cannot produce
negative sync, all others should work.

 I just want to know what video cards can do fixed-freq. monitors
 before I buy a 13W3-hd15 adaptor.

Depending on the intended use of the monitor and depending on the
adaptor you may need a card that does composite sync. Some do, others
don't... You can get an adapter that does the mixing. 

 Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X (no 
 console or boot messages)?

Right. 

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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Frank Van Damme wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I recently bought an old sparc station 2 with a 21 inch monitor (gdm
 1962b), it's got a sony trinitron crt. The machine is very slow and the
 framebuffer in it supports only 8 bit colors, terrible waste of a good
 monitor. So I thought about buying an adaptor (it's got a 13W3 connector) and
 attaching the thing my somewhat-beefier PC. Now the problem is: because
 the GDM-1962 is a fixed-frequency monitor, the PC video card must give
 the minitor exactly the 'right' signal. It's a certain HV refresh rate;
 someone told me for 1152x900 it would be 61,8 KHz H and 66 Hz V.
 
 Can a nvidia riva tnt2 M64 support this? Other option would be to buy an ati 
 radeon [7-8]500 if that is better (their xfree support seems quiet good). The 
 monitor works on the sparc, configuring is no problem. I just want to know 
 what video cards can do fixed-freq. monitors before I buy a 13W3-hd15 
 adaptor.

   Fixed frequency is not a problem and pretty much any video card
can nail the frequencies if you've got the correct modeline.  The
problem is that most fixed frequency monitors are also sync-on-green
or in the case of Sun, composite-sync.  NVIDIA cards cannot do
sync-on-green nor composite-sync.  

 
 Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X (no 
 console or boot messages)?

   That's correct for the bios screen, but svgatext mode should be able
to let you see most of the boot messages (from the part where it gets
loaded).


mark.

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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Nate Smith

On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 10:40:24AM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
 can nail the frequencies if you've got the correct modeline.  The
 problem is that most fixed frequency monitors are also sync-on-green
 or in the case of Sun, composite-sync.  NVIDIA cards cannot do
 sync-on-green nor composite-sync.  

In case you can't find a card that will do so, Matrox cards have
always been a snap to get working with sync on green and composite sync
for me, I have had 4 or 5 fixed frequency monitors that I obtained
for free that worked great with Millenium I's and Mystiques.  Just
add a 

 Option  Sync_on_Green

to your device section in your XF86Config file.

  Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X (no 
  console or boot messages)?
 
That's correct for the bios screen, but svgatext mode should be able
 to let you see most of the boot messages (from the part where it gets
 loaded).

I have seen methods of building your own frequency stabilizing circuit of
sorts using off the shelf stuff from radio shack that can allow you to 
see even the bios screen if it's a big concern, but that may be just as much
hassle as buying a card that is specifically for your fixed freq monitor.

Also, here is a utility I have found useful in working with fixed freq
monitors:

http://without.netpedia.net/kvideogen
http://saturn.tlug.org/sunstuff/ffmonitor.html#matrox
http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html

Good luck, 

Nate
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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Nate Smith wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 10:40:24AM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
  can nail the frequencies if you've got the correct modeline.  The
  problem is that most fixed frequency monitors are also sync-on-green
  or in the case of Sun, composite-sync.  NVIDIA cards cannot do
  sync-on-green nor composite-sync.  
 
 In case you can't find a card that will do so, Matrox cards have
 always been a snap to get working with sync on green and composite sync
 for me, I have had 4 or 5 fixed frequency monitors that I obtained
 for free that worked great with Millenium I's and Mystiques.  Just
 add a 
 
  Option  Sync_on_Green
 
 to your device section in your XF86Config file.


   SyncOnGreen, yes, but I'm not sure about Composite Sync.  Their
hardware can do composite, I'm pretty sure, but I don't recall any option
to turn that on in the driver.  Composite Sync is a trivial external
electronic circuit, however.  Sync-on-green is not so trivial due
to the frequencies involved (it messes with the analog data and 
naive approches will give you visible artifacts). 

Mark.


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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Sandy Harris

Frank Van Damme wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I recently bought an old sparc station 2 ... terrible waste of a good
 monitor. So I thought about buying an adaptor (it's got a 13W3 connector) and
 attaching the thing my somewhat-beefier PC. ...

I've had one of those in service (on various Windows boxes) for several
years using a Gemini C1 video card (uses Tseng 6000) from www.si87.com.
Works beautifully, including handling the BIOS messages right. 640x480,
readable at 10 yards.

There are Linux and FreeBSD drivers for some of their cards, for example:
http://www.si87.com/Support/satlinux.html

Here's an old post of mine on a similar monitor.

I never tried getting my pair (an HP as described and one from NCD that's
the same Hitachi product with a different OEM label) going under Linux,
but a URL in the post gives info on that. I've since sold them and the
buyer had no trouble bringing them up on Linux. I can get details if
anyone needs them.

old post:

I've just tried an experiment using a bunch of spare parts I had around:

HP c2746a 20 inch monitor, off an old server (HP 715?)
ATI mach 64 PCI card (mine's the VT model; I don't know if that matters)
VGA-to-5-BNC cable

I plugged them into a 98 box with an AGP card as primary video adapter, fiddled
a bit and bingo! Dual monitors with minimal sweat.

If I'd had to buy the parts, my cost for the lot would have been about $120
Canadian, equivalent to about $90 US. Seems like an awfully good deal.

Details on these monitors, including info for setting them up on Linux are at:

http://freeweb.pdq.net/jcooper/c2746a.htm

For 98, I just told it I had a generic monitor capable of 1280*1024 @ 75 Hz.
It then gave me a menu of refresh rates. I'm using 1152*864 @75 Hz. That is
the higehest resolution you can use with 16-bit colour on a 2 meg card and
I find it quite readable.

1280 by 1024 works at the adapter default refresh rate. Just telling Windows
you have a 1600*1200 monitor does not work, but the HP behaves nicely, puts
itself into a power-down state when it sees signals it dislikes.

My guess is these monitors would be available almost anywhere (they were a
common HP part) and that the same trick would work with other monitors.
Sun, SGI, other HP, ...

Many of these won't work as primary monitor on a PC (barring expensive
adapters or clever tricks) because they only run at one set of frequencies
(or a limited range) and cannot do standard VGA. They therefore tend to
be dirt cheap on the surplus market. $50 Canadian in my area. YMMV.

As a second monitor, though, they are happy.

I've rebooted the machine in Linux. No problem. By default, it just sees
the primary monitor. The HP sees no signal, goes politely into a power-save
mode. I don't yet know if I can get the multi-screen stuff in Linux.

Has anyone on the list tried 98 with three monitors? I'm contemplating
getting another of these. Two 20 HP's flanking my 19 Viewsonic...
Run 98 on the desktop, VNC to Linux servers ...
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[Xpert]junk following cursor in X (ATI Rage II)

2002-02-24 Thread Andrew Daviel


Some time ago when I did a system upgrade I tried Gnome (or KDE)
and saw this problem, couldn't be bothered to understand it and just
kept running fvwm2.

However, I now see it in fvwm2 (and twm) with a just-compiled copy of
xdoom, so maybe it's an X problem rather than a Gnome problem.
Most everything else I ever run is OK (Netscape, xv, staroffice,
xterm,xfig, etc. etc. etc. - I have only seen this problem in I think 2
apps)

The problem:
In an X app (xdoom, or gnuterm/kterm etc.) there is junk following the
cursor around. Under the cursor (invisible in xdoom) is
is an imaginary square about 63 pixels on edge which is OK.
(The cursor at its upper left vertex).
Under this is a translucent blue square superimposed on the screen
Under this is another square composed of translucent vertical bars
in about 3 colours. The pattern repeats to the bottom of the screen.
(Actually they are not all exactly square)

My system:
RedHat 6.0 upgraded to RedHat 6.2, probably with some apps and libraries
left around from old a.out days too.
Graphics device ID: ATI RAGE II
XFree86-3.3.6-20
XFree86-Mach64-3.3.6-20
DefaultColorDepth 16

Anyone see this before ?

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[Xpert]lilo config

2002-02-24 Thread Nyhassan

In suse 7.2 lilo.conf file there is a setting vga=771. Is there a 
document that descibes 771 and other video modes? thanks.
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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Frank Van Damme



(suddenly noticed I was only replying personally and not to the list)


On Sunday 24 February 2002 18:59, you wrote:
 Frank Van Damme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  It's a certain HV refresh rate; someone told me for 1152x900 it
  would be 61,8 KHz H and 66 Hz V.

 This is most likely wrong, the 1962b in its factory setting likes H
 around 72 kHz to maybe 78kHz. 1280x960 is my preferred resolution.

 You can try these modelines:

   ModeLine 1152x864   115 1152 1200 1300 1600   864 864 868 900 
-hsync
 -vsync ModeLine 1280x960   131 1280 1336 1456 1680   960 964 968 1000
 -hsync -vsync

I got this from a pdf on the monitor I own:

Vertical refresh rate : 60-85 Hz 
Horizontal Scan rate: 60- 80 KHz (Kilo Hetrz). 
Default set to 72Khz--- this is what you just said.
Horizontal scan rate is adjusted by H.Freq (Hold) as mentioned above. 
Maximum Resolution: 1600x1200 
Monitor Adjusted for: 1024x768 Tube: Sony Trinitron

http://www.fixedfrequency.com/FTP_Diablo/Readme.txt says:

d-1962b.rom9.02a  72 khz, 85 hz  Sun/Sony GDM-1962b, GDM-1662b

This is annoying, information I find on the web often contradicts. Even basic 
things like refresh rates. 

The pdf gives *ranges* for a fixed freq monitor??

  Can a nvidia riva tnt2 M64 support this?

 Most likely yes. There are only a few broken cards that cannot produce
 negative sync, all others should work.

And posts on mailing lists apparently contradict too :-)

If I ever find out how to get the monitor to work I'l certainly do a 
follow-up here and in debian-sparc...

  I just want to know what video cards can do fixed-freq. monitors
  before I buy a 13W3-hd15 adaptor.

 Depending on the intended use of the monitor and depending on the
 adaptor you may need a card that does composite sync. Some do, others
 don't... You can get an adapter that does the mixing.

See the note above: the cheapos should do that no?


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Re: [Xpert]junk following cursor in X (ATI Rage II)

2002-02-24 Thread Marc Aurele La France

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Andrew Daviel wrote:

 Some time ago when I did a system upgrade I tried Gnome (or KDE)
 and saw this problem, couldn't be bothered to understand it and just
 kept running fvwm2.

 However, I now see it in fvwm2 (and twm) with a just-compiled copy of
 xdoom, so maybe it's an X problem rather than a Gnome problem.
 Most everything else I ever run is OK (Netscape, xv, staroffice,
 xterm,xfig, etc. etc. etc. - I have only seen this problem in I think 2
 apps)

 The problem:
 In an X app (xdoom, or gnuterm/kterm etc.) there is junk following the
 cursor around. Under the cursor (invisible in xdoom) is
 is an imaginary square about 63 pixels on edge which is OK.
 (The cursor at its upper left vertex).
 Under this is a translucent blue square superimposed on the screen
 Under this is another square composed of translucent vertical bars
 in about 3 colours. The pattern repeats to the bottom of the screen.
 (Actually they are not all exactly square)

 My system:
 RedHat 6.0 upgraded to RedHat 6.2, probably with some apps and libraries
 left around from old a.out days too.
 Graphics device ID: ATI RAGE II
 XFree86-3.3.6-20
 XFree86-Mach64-3.3.6-20
 DefaultColorDepth 16

 Anyone see this before ?

Yep.  This was fixed in the 4.* series some time ago.

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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Frank Van Damme


(suddenly noticed I replied personally instead of to the list, sorry)


On Sunday 24 February 2002 19:40, you wrote:
Fixed frequency is not a problem and pretty much any video card
 can nail the frequencies if you've got the correct modeline.  The
 problem is that most fixed frequency monitors are also sync-on-green
 or in the case of Sun, composite-sync.  NVIDIA cards cannot do
 sync-on-green nor composite-sync.  

Hm. I think someone on the debian sparc mailing list told me the adaptor 
would solve this problem, it's called a 'sync combiner' I think. 

Anyway. If the nvidia doesn't work, Maybe a radeon card would?


(I suddenly also notice Mark Vojkovich works for nvidia :) )



 --- copy-paste --- 

 so any video cable adaptor
 *must* contain a sync combiner. The Ultraspec # 1396 adaptor is one that
 does and it's made to work with older Sun colour monitors when connected
 to PC's.

I guess these cheapos wont:
http://www.miragemultimedia.biz/product.asp?3=97

They are talking about the  SUN 20d10 monitor, is that one comparable to mine 
you think? (No I don't know too much about sun hardware as you can tell).

http://store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/vgato13sunvi.html
They aren't talking about anything :)

But with that adaptor from ultraspec (36$) I should have everything I need to 
get pretty (big) pictures on my PC?

-   -   His answer: -   -

Yes, that adaptor (or a similar third-party one) will enable the 1962
monitor to work with your PC's framebuffer once you get it to generate the
right video specs. The cable adaptor is only a wiring adaptor - it's still
up to your PC's display card to output signals with suitable parameters to
make the monitor happy. 8-)

 --- copy-paste --- 


  Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X
  (no console or boot messages)?

That's correct for the bios screen, but svgatext mode should be able
 to let you see most of the boot messages (from the part where it gets
 loaded).

I'll compile it in.
No problem!! ;-)

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Re: [Xpert]fixed-frequency monitor

2002-02-24 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Frank Van Damme wrote:

 
 (suddenly noticed I replied personally instead of to the list, sorry)
 
 
 On Sunday 24 February 2002 19:40, you wrote:
 Fixed frequency is not a problem and pretty much any video card
  can nail the frequencies if you've got the correct modeline.  The
  problem is that most fixed frequency monitors are also sync-on-green
  or in the case of Sun, composite-sync.  NVIDIA cards cannot do
  sync-on-green nor composite-sync.  
 
 Hm. I think someone on the debian sparc mailing list told me the adaptor 
 would solve this problem, it's called a 'sync combiner' I think. 

   You can buy adaptors that do this or make your own (the logic is
very simple. see http://cvs.anu.edu.au/monitorconversion/sun.html).

   Sync on green monitors, however, are not so simple because the
logic modifies the green analog signal which makes this a high
frequency circuit.  I made a circuit to do that once and had it
on my old web page back in college - long gone.

 
 Anyway. If the nvidia doesn't work, Maybe a radeon card would?

   Somebody like Marc La France would have to address that.
I don't see an option for it in the radeon driver.

 
 (I suddenly also notice Mark Vojkovich works for nvidia :) )
 
 
 
  --- copy-paste --- 
 
  so any video cable adaptor
  *must* contain a sync combiner. The Ultraspec # 1396 adaptor is one that
  does and it's made to work with older Sun colour monitors when connected
  to PC's.
 
 I guess these cheapos wont:
 http://www.miragemultimedia.biz/product.asp?3=97
 
 They are talking about the  SUN 20d10 monitor, is that one comparable to mine 
 you think? (No I don't know too much about sun hardware as you can tell).
 
 http://store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/vgato13sunvi.html
 They aren't talking about anything :)
 
 But with that adaptor from ultraspec (36$) I should have everything I need to 
 get pretty (big) pictures on my PC?
 
 -   -   His answer: -   -
 
 Yes, that adaptor (or a similar third-party one) will enable the 1962
 monitor to work with your PC's framebuffer once you get it to generate the
 right video specs. The cable adaptor is only a wiring adaptor - it's still
 ^^

   I don't know if the 13W3 adaptors have a power line in them.  In
order for the *cable* to do the sync combining I think it would need
active electronics in it, which means it needs power of some sort.
So I'm suspicious about the ability of a dumb cable alone to handle
the sync combining.


Mark.


 up to your PC's display card to output signals with suitable parameters to
 make the monitor happy. 8-)
 
  --- copy-paste --- 
 
 
   Am I also right thinking I will only be able to use the monitor under X
   (no console or boot messages)?
 
 That's correct for the bios screen, but svgatext mode should be able
  to let you see most of the boot messages (from the part where it gets
  loaded).
 
 I'll compile it in.
 No problem!! ;-)
 
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[Xpert]Compitable video cards

2002-02-24 Thread Stephen Wenzler

I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is compitable or closely matched
video card drivers that matches the cards that uses nVidia's Geforce 2
MX series chipsets?

It is for v3.3.6 of XFree86

Thanks!


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[Xpert]How X application distinguish input devices?

2002-02-24 Thread Lam Yick Yan

Dear Sir,

 I have just devleoped a X input driver for my small graphic tablet.
It is a small tablet that is very popular in Hong Kong, Taiwan and China
for Chinese handwriting recoginition.  It is working now. I have cursor
that will move according to mouse OR graphic tablet.

 Now I want to devlope a GTK application (honestly I posted this
question
in GTK mailing list) or X application  that will ONLY respond the event from
my graphic tablet. I have a callback function in my X application,
motion_notify_event and I have compared the event content
of my mouse and my graphic tablet and they look the same (the deviceid
content etc). and I have no way to distuguish whether the event is from the
mouse or from the graphic tablet.

 What did I do wrong in my driver? can please have a look at
http://input.foruto.com/IME/BINARIES/gogopen.tar.gz and tell me whether
I did wrong in the device driver? (BTW I would like if someone can
distribute
this driver). How can I pass special information from the driver to my X
applicaton?

Yick Lam
Hong Kong, China


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Hong Kong china





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Re: [Xpert]Compitable video cards

2002-02-24 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Stephen Wenzler wrote:

 I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is compitable or closely matched
 video card drivers that matches the cards that uses nVidia's Geforce 2
 MX series chipsets?
 
 It is for v3.3.6 of XFree86
 
 Thanks!
 

   I doubt GeForce2 MX is supported in 3.3.6.   Why don't you
use 4.x?  3.3.6 is a couple years old.


Mark.

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[Xpert]An question about StopVideo on ATI AiW

2002-02-24 Thread Kevin Huang


 Ur explanation is very clear. YES, the StopVideo in Xv library can be called by
 Xserver without AP's request.
 I have a DVD player AP which will use PutImage function in Xv library to
 display the video. When I use our own graphic card  driver, in fact, Xserver
 will call StopVideo in my driver not only when I destroy the window but also
 moving or cliping the window. If I remove the flag VIDEO_OVERLAID_IMAGES in my
 driver, Xserver will never call StopVideo even though I destroy the window.

   Those both are the expected behavior.

 
 In ATI's driver, it also set VIDEO_OVERLAID_IMAGES flag. But I move or clip the
 video window, Xserver never call StopVideo in ATI's driver. It is only called
 when the window is destroy.

I don't understand that.  That shouldn't be the case, at least not
 of the driver that's in the XFree86 tree.

 My purpose is to eliminate the flicker state when moving the video window. Coz
 in StopVideo function, we turn off video H/W engine; in PutImage function, we
 turn on video H/W engine, the same does ATI.

   Not in the driver I'm looking at.  The R128 driver sets a timer and
 turns it off later.

   Mark.

Hi Mark  Vladimir,

I feel so sorry for that I don't mention about the version of ATI AiW r128 driver.
I got it from my colleague, and I will send it to your mailbox for ur reference.

Mark, Thanks a lot !!

You are right! I try the AiW r128 driver in XFree86 tree 4.1.0  4.2.0  find that
they have the expected behavior. This means that they will call StopVideo whenever
we move the video window.

Only the special version of the AiW r128 driver has the strange behavior. Maybe the
reason is the ReputImage function Vladimir mentioned about. I will try it !

  Kevin.

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Re: [Xpert]lilo config

2002-02-24 Thread Joe Krahn

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 In suse 7.2 lilo.conf file there is a setting vga=771. Is there a
 document that descibes 771 and other video modes? thanks.
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Look in the Linux source documentation: linux/Documentation/fb
The vga= modes can select regular text modes or frambuffer
modes, where text is rendered as graphics, for slower but nicer
text. I think the fb docs list both the text and framebuffer modes.
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Re: [Xpert]An question about StopVideo on ATI AiW

2002-02-24 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, [big5] Kevin Huang wrote:

 
 Hi Mark  Vladimir,
 
 I feel so sorry for that I don't mention about the version of ATI AiW r128 driver.
 I got it from my colleague, and I will send it to your mailbox for ur reference.
 
 Mark, Thanks a lot !!
 
 You are right! I try the AiW r128 driver in XFree86 tree 4.1.0  4.2.0  find that
 they have the expected behavior. This means that they will call StopVideo whenever
 we move the video window.
 
 Only the special version of the AiW r128 driver has the strange behavior. Maybe the
 reason is the ReputImage function Vladimir mentioned about. I will try it !
 

  ReputImage is an alternate way of doing things.   If you provide
that function, the ReputImage function gets called with the new
cliplist when the window is moved.  Without it, stop gets called
(but with the cleanup flag not set).


Mark.

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