Re: [Xpert]TinyX (Xfbdev) not reading XF86Config?

2002-05-16 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Thu, 16 May 2002, Q-ha Park wrote:

> maybe i'm mistaken, but i thought Xfvdev works as if it were a normal X
> server, thus reading XF86Config and does what it's supposed to accordingly.
> 
> when i built TinyX, it didn't come with a default XF86Config and i thought
> this was okay.(no?) so i copied a XF86Config file from somewhere else and
> changed it according to what i read about building TinyX.

I *think* TinyX uses no config file, getting all its options from the 
command line.

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Re: [Xpert]Multiple mice

2002-05-16 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Thu, 16 May 2002, Steve Pirk wrote:

> Is it possible to have multiple mouse definitions
> in XF86Config?
> 
> I have a Sony Vaio that has the touchpad pointer
> (works), and a USB mouse attached (does not work :-)
> 
> Any ideas? Is this the correct list?

See the thread including the message:
http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-April/007420.html

I use /dev/input/mice on my VAIO and I can use both mice,
even if the USB mouse is plugged in *after* I start X.

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Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )

2002-05-16 Thread hy0

You can try X -configure after installing X4.2. If it still doesn't work,
send your log file.


> Thanks for responding. I've gone through the steps of installing the
> 4.2 binaries and running the xf86cfg. One issue is that 4.2 source files
> may have been installed, and other files installed - which prevents startx
> from
> working. The configuration program works, but xwindows will not start. Do
> you
> suggest doing a fresh install of redhat 7.1, then the 4.2 binaries and
> xf86cfg ?
> or any other suggestions/steps to have this work? The system purchased is
> listed
> here:
>
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-Details.asp?sku=TSA
> -21-10AX
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of hy0
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )
>
>
> > Is the ATI Radeon VE the same as the 7000? I read this somewhere.
> Yes
> > Any idea if 4.2 will work with this?
> Yes
>
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RE: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )

2002-05-16 Thread dmitri kerievsky

Thanks for responding. I've gone through the steps of installing the
4.2 binaries and running the xf86cfg. One issue is that 4.2 source files
may have been installed, and other files installed - which prevents startx
from
working. The configuration program works, but xwindows will not start. Do
you
suggest doing a fresh install of redhat 7.1, then the 4.2 binaries and
xf86cfg ?
or any other suggestions/steps to have this work? The system purchased is
listed
here:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-Details.asp?sku=TSA
-21-10AX


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Of hy0
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )


> Is the ATI Radeon VE the same as the 7000? I read this somewhere.
Yes
> Any idea if 4.2 will work with this?
Yes


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[Xpert]Multiple mice

2002-05-16 Thread Steve Pirk

Is it possible to have multiple mouse definitions
in XF86Config?

I have a Sony Vaio that has the touchpad pointer
(works), and a USB mouse attached (does not work :-)

Any ideas? Is this the correct list?

Thanks.

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Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )

2002-05-16 Thread hy0

> Is the ATI Radeon VE the same as the 7000? I read this somewhere.
Yes
> Any idea if 4.2 will work with this?
Yes


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RE: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )

2002-05-16 Thread dmitri kerievsky

Is the ATI Radeon VE the same as the 7000? I read this somewhere.
Any idea if 4.2 will work with this?

-Original Message-
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Of hy0
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE ( Dell OEM version )


This feature will soon be in CVS. I have a test build for X4.2, let me know
if you want to give it a try.

>Hi,
>
>I have a Dell OEM ATI Radeon VE with a DVI interface on it. There is _not_
a
>vga interface on it.  Only the DVI. I have a converter (that came with the
>card) that goes from the one DVI connector to two (2) VGA  connectors.  I
>would like to connect a monitor to each of these VGA connectors, and run
>Xinerama to span an X Desktop across both of them .
>
>But before I do that, I was wondering...is it possible to configure X in
>this way? Currently, I can only get the first monitor (the first interface)
>to work. Is there something I can do make the X talk to BOTH  monitors?
>I'm running:
>
>Linux:  Slackware 8.0
>Kernel:  2.4.18
>XFree86: 4.2
>
>
>If there currently isn't a way of doing this, is there a plan to add this
>support to X in the future?
>
>
>
>- Thanks,
>
>Todd






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[Xpert]TinyX (Xfbdev) not reading XF86Config?

2002-05-16 Thread Q-ha Park

maybe i'm mistaken, but i thought Xfvdev works as if it were a normal X
server, thus reading XF86Config and does what it's supposed to accordingly.

when i built TinyX, it didn't come with a default XF86Config and i thought
this was okay.(no?) so i copied a XF86Config file from somewhere else and
changed it according to what i read about building TinyX.

but many of the options i changed doesn't seem to work. for example, "Don't
Zap" doesn't work. (i can still kill my X with ctrl-alt-BS) and FontPath
doesn't read my korean fonts, (i still load it with "xset +fp")..

any ideas, anyone?

Thanks in advance.


-The Master Q Show 2002
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[Xpert]BlankStart, etc... in Modelines

2002-05-16 Thread Mark Vojkovich


   Didn't we allow for blanking parameters (start, width) in 
Modelines?  I can't find documentation on the format anyplace.
I know the CrtcVBlankStart, etc... get passed to the drivers.
I'm just not sure how they get explicitly set.

Mark.

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Re: [Xpert]Support for Frame Buffer in kernel 4.2/4.0.3

2002-05-16 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 06:08, Balarama Chandra N R wrote: 
> 
> Can some one plz confirm that Linux kernel Version 4.2/4.0.3 has support for
> Frame Buffers.
> I need to build a KDrive which needs a kernel with this support.

When were those kernels released? ;)

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html


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Re: [Xpert]Mouse Problem

2002-05-16 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On 16 May 2002, Kevin Pratt wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I have had this problem with two different mice now.  After X has been
> running for a while (about 2.5 hours) the hot spot on the mouse becomes
> disjoint  from the main cursor image.  The only way I can fix it is to
> reboot the computer.
> 
> When i click the actual action happens about ~10-20 pixels away from
> where the mouse cursor actually is.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had run into this problem before and if they
> had can they point me in the direction of a fix.
> 
> I am running Gentoo Linux 1.1a on an Aopen MK73lE-N.  I used the X
> distribution from the portage.
> 
> As I said, I have tried two different mice 1 an Aopen USB Optical mouse
> (using the PS-2 converter (i am having USB troubles)), and an Acer
> generic PS-2 mouse.
> 

   This is most likely a graphics driver bug with the hardware cursor.
If so, Option "SWcursor" in the Section "Device" of the XF86Config
file should make that go away.


Mark.

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Re: [Xpert]SIS 650

2002-05-16 Thread Jeroen Coumans

On Thursday 16 May 2002 17:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hello all;
> as I'm new to this list, I would like to give you a brief about
> myself, I'm a system administrator working for a company in Saudi
> Arabia "ouch, we don't deal withya guyZ" :-) I'm having some problems
> with xfree86 server, I bought recently a laptop called I-Buddie which
> uses the SIS 650 chipset, it is very wonderful machine but today I
> tried to install RH7.2 with no hope to start the Xserver, I checked
> the sis site; they don't mention anything about 650 chip, checked the
> others, no way. and the story goeZ on hunting for a driver but it
> seems hopeless.
>
> I appreciate the guidance on this.
>
> Best Regards

http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsis630.shtml

should have what you need

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[Xpert]Mouse Problem

2002-05-16 Thread Kevin Pratt

Hello All,

I have had this problem with two different mice now.  After X has been
running for a while (about 2.5 hours) the hot spot on the mouse becomes
disjoint  from the main cursor image.  The only way I can fix it is to
reboot the computer.

When i click the actual action happens about ~10-20 pixels away from
where the mouse cursor actually is.

I was wondering if anyone had run into this problem before and if they
had can they point me in the direction of a fix.

I am running Gentoo Linux 1.1a on an Aopen MK73lE-N.  I used the X
distribution from the portage.

As I said, I have tried two different mice 1 an Aopen USB Optical mouse
(using the PS-2 converter (i am having USB troubles)), and an Acer
generic PS-2 mouse.

Thanks Kevin


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UPDATE: Re: [Xpert]X display locks up on 16-bit color, 24-bit OK.

2002-05-16 Thread Neal

On Tue, 14 May 2002 21:29:07 -0400
Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 14 May 2002 21:47:37 +0200
> Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 01:01, Neal wrote: 
> > > I downloaded RedHat's new 7.3 release and installed clean on my desktop. 
> > > XFce, Galeon, sylpheed-claws, Xchat and Pan all worked as expected.
> > > 
> > > I was doing some file system exploring with Xftree when X locked up. The mouse 
>pointer would move normally, but no response from the keyboard and no window focus.  
>I restarted the box and repeated the sequence using Xftree.  Sure enough it locked 
>again and again.  Thankfully, ext3 recovered each time.  I started Gnome and found 
>that I could repeat the problem.  KDE also did the same thing.  
> > > 
> > > My video card is an ATI Rage 128 R with 32M of memory.  It has never given me a 
>problem with earlier versions of X.  
> > > 
> > > Normally, I set the color depth to 16-bit, and that was where I had it set 
>during the lock-ups.
> > > 
> > > The problem disappears when I re-set the color depth to 24-bit!
> > 
> > Maybe that's not the actual problem, but e.g. DRI is enabled in depth 16
> > but not 24? Can you investigate or provide us with more information?
> > 
> Michel,
> Thank you for the reply.  I replaced the RH kernel with a kernel built from 
>kernel.org.  I have tried repeatedly to freeze the screen but have not been able to 
>freeze the screen since.  
> 

Update:
No screen lock-ups since building new kernel two days ago!!  
I have switched between 8-but, 16-bit and 24-bit and the machine is rock solid while 
doing the things that caused it to freeze with Red Hat's kernel.
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kernel 2.4.18/ext3 and XFce, Athlon800 Desktop
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[Xpert]SIS 650

2002-05-16 Thread CN



hello all;
as I'm new to this list, I would like to give you a 
brief about myself, I'm a system administrator working for a company in Saudi 
Arabia "ouch, we don't deal withya guyZ" :-) 
I'm having some problems with xfree86 server, I 
bought recently a laptop called I-Buddie which uses the SIS 650 chipset, it is 
very wonderful machine but today I tried to install RH7.2 with no hope to start 
the Xserver, I checked the sis site; they don't mention anything about 650 chip, 
checked the others, no way. and the story goeZ on hunting for a driver but 
it seems hopeless.
 
I appreciate the guidance on this.
 
Best Regards
 
 
 
 


[Xpert][PATCH] TDFX / Voodoo low tex mem hang

2002-05-16 Thread Michael

Two patches here, one is against xf-4_2-branch, one against DRI cvs

Tested with 0.38mb free texture space running q3 on highest texture
settings, which is probably the minimum you can have (as a comparison,
1280x960 leaves something like 8mb or so) 

Regardless, if it hits the same problem it should exit the application
cleanly rather than hang.

Please send feedback to me or dri-devel

Thanks,


-- 
Michael.


Index: lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -3 -p -r1.4 tdfx_texman.c
--- lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c  2001/08/18 02:51:07 1.4
+++ lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c  2002/05/15 12:29:23
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ static void tdfxTMVerifyFreeList( tdfxCo
   if ( t ) {
 if ( t->isInTM ) {
numRes++;
-   assert( t->range[0] );
+/* assert( t->range[0] ); */
if ( t->range[unit] )
   totalUsed += (t->range[unit]->endAddr - t->range[unit]->startAddr);
 } else {
@@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ static void tdfxTMDumpTexMem( tdfxContex
 printf( "  isInTM=%d  whichTMU=%ld  lastTimeUsed=%d\n",
 t->isInTM, t->whichTMU, t->lastTimeUsed );
 printf( "tm[0] = %p", t->range[0] );
-assert( t->range[0] );
+/*  assert( t->range[0] ); */
 if ( t->range[0] ) {
printf( "  tm startAddr = %ld  endAddr = %ld",
t->range[0]->startAddr,
@@ -389,7 +389,10 @@ tdfxTMFindOldestObject( tdfxContextPtr f
 ( t->whichTMU == TDFX_TMU_SPLIT ) ) ) {
 GLuint age, lastTime;
 
-assert( t->range[0] );
+/*  assert( t->range[0] );*/
+if (! t->range[unit] ) {
+   return NULL;
+}
 lastTime = t->lastTimeUsed;
 
 if ( lastTime > bindNumber ) {
@@ -568,6 +571,8 @@ tdfxTMAllocTexMem( tdfxContextPtr fxMesa
   fprintf( stderr,
   "tdfxTMAllocTexMem returned NULL!  unit=%ld size=%ld\n",
   unit, size );
+  UNLOCK_HARDWARE( fxMesa );
+  exit( 1 );
}
return range;
 }
Index: programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_driver.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_driver.c,v
retrieving revision 1.87
diff -u -3 -p -r1.87 tdfx_driver.c
--- programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_driver.c  2002/01/04 21:22:35
 1.87
+++ programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_driver.c  2002/05/15 12:29:28
@@ -1954,8 +1954,11 @@ static void allocateMemory(ScrnInfoPtr p
   /* for giggles.   */
   pTDFX->fbOffset = pTDFX->fifoOffset + pTDFX->fifoSize;
   pTDFX->texOffset = pTDFX->fbOffset + fbSize;
+  pTDFX->texSize = pTDFX->backOffset - pTDFX->texOffset;
+
   if (pTDFX->depthOffset <= pTDFX->texOffset ||
-   pTDFX->backOffset <= pTDFX->texOffset) {
+   pTDFX->backOffset <= pTDFX->texOffset ||
+   pTDFX->texSize < 256*256*6) {
 /*
  * pTDFX->texSize < 0 means that the DRI is disabled.  pTDFX->backOffset
  * is used to calculate the maximum amount of memory available for
@@ -1970,7 +1973,6 @@ static void allocateMemory(ScrnInfoPtr p
"\tand/or back buffer.  Disabling DRI.  To use DRI try lower\n"
"\tresolution modes and/or a smaller virtual screen size\n");
   } else {
-pTDFX->texSize = pTDFX->backOffset - pTDFX->texOffset;
 xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, X_INFO, "Textures Memory %0.02f MB\n",
(float)pTDFX->texSize/1024.0/1024.0);
   }


Index: lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c,v
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -3 -p -r1.11 tdfx_texman.c
--- lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c  14 Feb 2002 01:59:59 -  1.11
+++ lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/tdfx/tdfx_texman.c  14 May 2002 20:45:12 -
@@ -396,7 +396,9 @@ FindOldestObject(tdfxContextPtr fxMesa, 
  (info->whichTMU == TDFX_TMU_SPLIT))) {
 GLuint age, lasttime;
 
-assert(info->tm[0]);
+/*assert(info->tm[0]);*/
+   if (!info->tm[tmu])
+  return NULL;
 lasttime = info->lastTimeUsed;
 
 if (lasttime > bindnumber)
@@ -625,7 +627,8 @@ AllocTexMem(tdfxContextPtr fxMesa, FxU32
 sprintf(err, "AllocTexMem returned NULL!  tmu=%d texmemsize=%d\n",
(int) tmu, (int) texmemsize);
 _mesa_problem(fxMesa->glCtx, err);
-return NULL;
+   UNLOCK_HARDWARE( fxMesa );
+   exit(1);
 }
 else {
 tdfxMemRange *range;
Index: programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_driver.c
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/tdfx/tdfx_drive

Re: [Xpert]**** ATI R128 DGA 2 API layer with XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() XDGACopyTransparentArea() bug.

2002-05-16 Thread Alan Hourihane

There was a typo in the DGA support I committed about two days ago from
a patch that was submitted.

Can you try again.

Alan.

On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 06:30:47 -0700, Jérémy Bar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Any one had a chance to have a look at this one yet ?
> 
> The visual effects of the XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() and 
>XDGACopyTransparentArea()
> functions are really not correct. It looks like the copied area gets sliced around 
>the 
> viewport as if the image size that the driver gives is not correct in
> correspondance with the viewport size for those low resolution modes.
> 
> Who is the maintainer of the ATI r128 driver ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Forwarded message from Jrmy Bar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > OS: Linux Red Hat, 7.2, 2.4.9-31
> > Area: DGA 2 API layer with XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() 
>XDGACopyTransparentArea()
> > Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)
> > Driver: R128
> > Video Card: ATI Rage 128 Pro PF
> > 
> > Bug description :
> > 
> > The problem occurs in some cases when the viewport resolution is lower than
> > the default viewport resolution the X server was started with.
> > 
> > I wrote a test case program reproducing the problem.
> > Please download the archive at:
> > 
> > http://www.jeremy-bar.org/~nuser/files/ATI-r128-DGA-test.tar.gz
> > 
> > As a comprison base, this program was run on a system with a TNT 2 card with the 
>NVidia
> > drivers and worked as expected. I have included test-matrix.txt which
> > states which modes work and which modes do not on the ATI card.
> > 
> > The probe of the flags variable of the mode structure indicate that 
> > the XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() XDGACopyTransparentArea() functions
> > are usable.
> > 
> > I have tested with the latest CVS snapshot and 4.2.0.
> > 
> > I included the XFree log in the archive I pointed out higher up.
> > 
> > Any ideas ?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> --- End forwarded message -
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[Xpert]**** ATI R128 DGA 2 API layer with XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() XDGACopyTransparentArea() bug.

2002-05-16 Thread Jérémy Bar

Hi,

Any one had a chance to have a look at this one yet ?

The visual effects of the XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() and 
XDGACopyTransparentArea()
functions are really not correct. It looks like the copied area gets sliced around the 
viewport as if the image size that the driver gives is not correct in
correspondance with the viewport size for those low resolution modes.

Who is the maintainer of the ATI r128 driver ?

Thanks.

- Forwarded message from Jérémy Bar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

> Hi,
> 
> OS: Linux Red Hat, 7.2, 2.4.9-31
> Area: DGA 2 API layer with XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() 
>XDGACopyTransparentArea()
> Server: XFree86 (The XFree86 4.x server)
> Driver: R128
> Video Card: ATI Rage 128 Pro PF
> 
> Bug description :
> 
> The problem occurs in some cases when the viewport resolution is lower than
> the default viewport resolution the X server was started with.
> 
> I wrote a test case program reproducing the problem.
> Please download the archive at:
> 
> http://www.jeremy-bar.org/~nuser/files/ATI-r128-DGA-test.tar.gz
> 
> As a comprison base, this program was run on a system with a TNT 2 card with the 
>NVidia
> drivers and worked as expected. I have included test-matrix.txt which
> states which modes work and which modes do not on the ATI card.
> 
> The probe of the flags variable of the mode structure indicate that 
> the XDGAFillRectangle() XDGACopyArea() XDGACopyTransparentArea() functions
> are usable.
> 
> I have tested with the latest CVS snapshot and 4.2.0.
> 
> I included the XFree log in the archive I pointed out higher up.
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 
> Thanks.

--- End forwarded message -

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RE: [Xpert]is ATI Radeon 7000 Video w/ 64MB supported with xfree86 for redhat Linux 7.1

2002-05-16 Thread dmitri kerievsky

when I choose "no" the Radeon is listed - i choose it, save the 
configuration, but startx still fails. any other ideas?
thx

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Subject: RE: [Xpert]is ATI Radeon 7000 Video w/ 64MB supported with
xfree86 for redhat Linux 7.1


On Wed, 15 May 2002, dmitri kerievsky wrote:

> when running # xf86cfg -nomodules -textmode I see
> a graphical setup which leads to a step where there are
> a list of video cars, but the ATI Radeon is not there, even 
> though documentation says it is supported. 
> any ideas what to do?

After you select "Add new card" it will ask if you want to look at the 
card database. If you say "no" you will get a list of drivers.
Is the Radeon in that list ?

Supporting every chip is hard enough, keeping a database of every
card and all the names (does the card have different names in different 
packaging) is very difficult; chances are that for v4.2 the radeon 
developers didn't get around to updating the card database.

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Re: [Xpert]multiuser X

2002-05-16 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Thu, 16 May 2002, - PSHunter wrote:

> I have thought about a scheme allowing multiple users to
> have an X session simultaneously.

> When a user wants to lock his session, the only thing *dm
> has to do is to hide the Xnest window (the login box is
> always open behind them) and prompt another user to log in.

I don't much like the idea.
How do you stop the second user from hiding his window
and bringing the first user's window to the front ?

Personally, I think that it is much better if each user logs out when
they leave, otherwise you could end up with a dozen users on the
screen. All those KDEs, Gnomes and netscapes could take up a lot of
memory.

What happens when the first user goes to a different terminal ?
They still have their first session running on the first terminal,
but can't quit it unless the scecond user quits.

If you want users to keep their session when they leave,
why not use VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/) ?
This seems to overcome most of my objections (the sessions will
still take up memory).

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[Xpert]multiuser X

2002-05-16 Thread - PSHunter

Hi Xperts !

I have thought about a scheme allowing multiple users to
have an X session simultaneously.

Currently the only way to do this is to open a new X on
another vt. When using this configuration style it is
however difficult for users to use it : if a user wants to
lock his session and go away, but wants to let others use
the workstation while he is away, others have to look for a
vt (with Ctrl-Fx) where they can log in. Another point is
that there must always be open X's on vt8, 9, etc..

My idea is the following : Only one X is open on vt7, and
when a user logs in, *dm doesn't hand the Xserver to the
user (i may be wrong in understanding this mechanism).
However, it launches a new Xnest, makes it fullscreen and
gives it to the user.

When a user wants to lock his session, the only thing *dm
has to do is to hide the Xnest window (the login box is
always open behind them) and prompt another user to log in.

What do you think about that ? (if this is the wrong place
to post this suggestion, please point me to the right place)

Thanks, JC.
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[Xpert]multiuser X

2002-05-16 Thread - PSHunter

Hi Xperts !

I have thought about a scheme allowing multiple users to
have an X session simultaneously.

Currently the only way to do this is to open a new X on 
another vt. When using this configuration style it is 
however difficult for users to use it : if a user wants to
lock his session and go away, but wants to let others use
the workstation while he is away, others have to look for a
vt (with Ctrl-Fx) where they can log in. Another point is 
that there must always be open X's on vt8, 9, etc..

My idea is the following : Only one X is open on vt7, and 
when a user logs in, *dm doesn't hand the Xserver to the
user (i may be wrong in understanding this mechanism).
However, it launches a new Xnest, makes it fullscreen and
gives it to the user.

When a user wants to lock his session, the only thing *dm
has to do is to hide the Xnest window (the login box is
always open behind them) and prompt another user to log in.

What do you think about that ? (if this is the wrong place
to post this suggestion, please point me to the right place)

Thanks, JC.
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RE: [Xpert]is ATI Radeon 7000 Video w/ 64MB supported with xfree86for redhat Linux 7.1

2002-05-16 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Wed, 15 May 2002, dmitri kerievsky wrote:

> when running # xf86cfg -nomodules -textmode I see
> a graphical setup which leads to a step where there are
> a list of video cars, but the ATI Radeon is not there, even 
> though documentation says it is supported. 
> any ideas what to do?

After you select "Add new card" it will ask if you want to look at the 
card database. If you say "no" you will get a list of drivers.
Is the Radeon in that list ?

Supporting every chip is hard enough, keeping a database of every
card and all the names (does the card have different names in different 
packaging) is very difficult; chances are that for v4.2 the radeon 
developers didn't get around to updating the card database.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna

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[Xpert]ThinkPad X20 not suspending with X11?

2002-05-16 Thread Lars-Johan Liman

Folks,

I have tried this with the NetBSD crowd, but got only work-arounds, no
solutions, so I turn to you guys, in the faint hope that anyone else
has experienced this and actually understood the reason for it.

I had an IBM ThinkPad X20 that happily suspended whenever I told it
to. It was stolen under return transport from IBM repair centre. I had
removed the HDD since it was not part of the problem (it was a NIC
problem). IBM gave me a new computer (kudos to them for their way to
handle the problem!), which seemingly is identical to the previous
one, hardware wise.  It is produced at a later date, though, and has a
later BIOS version.

I installed my old HDD without booting from the shipped drive, and
without touching the software neither on the shipped drive nor my old
HDD.

The new computer will not suspend (command "zzz") if I have X11
running. It will start to flash the suspend LED, and turn off the
screen, but not "power down" properly (e.g., HDD still spinning, and
power LED "on"), and then lock up completely. Hard power off is the
only way out - with following fsck. :-( This happens only if X11 is
running. If I first take down X11 or switch to a different console in
text mode, suspend works fine.

Why is this?

RTFM? (If so, pls. indicate which FM I have neglected to R.)
BIOS setting?
BIOS bug?
NetBSD apm setting?
NetBSD apm bug?
X11 setting?
X11 bug?
Never heard of before?

Platform is:

NetBSD naptop.autonomica.net 1.5ZA NetBSD 1.5ZA (GENERIC_LAPTOP) #0:
  Fri Mar  8 18:54:17 MET 2002
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  i386
and I've also tried with GENERIC_LAPTOP with the _one_ modification of
enabling
  option APM_DISABLE_INTERRUPTS=0

X11 is 3.3.6, with possible patches by the NetBSD distribution team.

Cheers,
  /Liman
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