Re: [Xpert]LocalClient extensions vs. ssh

2002-06-11 Thread Egbert Eich

Joe Krahn writes:
 > Aside from LocalClient returning false, DGA requests should fail, right?

LocalClient() returns TRUE therefore DGA doesn't fail.

 > Trying GL over the tunnel correctly gives an error message and reverts
 > to indirect rendering.

That's different. With direct rendering the client library connects directly
to the hw. It does not rely on the sever to fail.

 > 
 > I don't know much about DGA, but my understanding is that it has
 > a lot of issues because it is sort of a big hack (but useful), and
 > the real solution is to replace it with real protocols like XVideo
 > and a similar capture extension.
 > 

This is not limited to DGA. Other extensions that depend on being run
locally have the same problem if they rely on the sever's
LocalClient() implementation.

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[Xpert]Help about woking of X-server

2002-06-11 Thread Anticipating Reply

Hi All !

 I have been stuck up with a problem of
Xfbdev regarding the improper display of
colors in the pictures , and have not
got any suggestions which could resolve
my problem form this 'Xpert' mailing list .

Now I have no option but to sit and
understand the complete working of X-windows
to try and figure out my probelm & find a
solution .

To aid this effort of mine , apart
 from the actual source of X-server , can
you suggest me any documents on the internet
which cover the following topics :

<1> An overall overview of X-server working .

<2> An explanation of the working of X-server
 with respect to the actual X-server source.

<3> An explanation of X-server interaction with
 the framebuffer driver .

<4> An overview of X-server colours concepts .
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<5> Any other important functionality which
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[Xpert]XFree86 4.2.0 and SCO Unixware 7.1.1

2002-06-11 Thread Denney, Everette

Hello all,
I'm wondering if someone could point me in a good direction for
getting XFree to run correctly with SCO Unixware. I really don't like this
operating system, since even with it's latest release in the 7.x series, it
doesn't support the video subsystem that I am working with (Xsco that is.).
I'm using a CT69030 with 4 MB VRAM embedded. FAQ's, gettin SCO's dtlogin
(dtgreet) to run using XFree instead of Xsco, etc.. is what I'm looking for.
Thanks for everyone's time.

Best regards,

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Re: [Xpert]LocalClient extensions vs. ssh

2002-06-11 Thread Joe Krahn

Egbert Eich wrote:
> 
> When running X request thru a ssh tunnel LocalClient() returns
> true as the sshd connects to the Xserver from the same machine.
> 
> This leads to unpredictable results and even system crashes
> if an application that can only run locally is started on a remote
> system.
> 
> If for example an application wants to address the framebuffer
> directly thru DGA it will try to map the framebuffer on the machine
> it is started on not the one where the Xserver lives on.
> 
> Even though this requires root privileges I do consider this to
> be a problem that should be adressed.
> 
> Any ideas?
>
Aside from LocalClient returning false, DGA requests should fail, right?
Trying GL over the tunnel correctly gives an error message and reverts
to indirect rendering.

I don't know much about DGA, but my understanding is that it has
a lot of issues because it is sort of a big hack (but useful), and
the real solution is to replace it with real protocols like XVideo
and a similar capture extension.

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Re: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Stephen Wenzler

Ok, keep talking about this issue, also what version of FreeBSD on CDROM 
form that comes with Xfree86 4.2.0???


Mark Lane wrote:

> At 04:55 PM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>
>> No, I just installed basic 4.2.0 sources (via gentoo), compiled & 
>> installed,
>> ran XFree86 -configure, and it worked (even recognized and properly
>> configured my Philips monitor).
>
>
> Hmm, you will probably want Nvidia's drivers. The open source nv 
> driver has limited if any hardware 3D support which makes your 
> GeForce4 card an expensive 2D card.
>
>
>> At 04:11 PM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>> >Hmmm, my GeForce 4 MX 440 (VisionTek) works beautifully under 4.2.0 
>> under
>> >Linux ... so unless there are real differences in the server code 
>> between
>> >FreeBSD and Linux, I would expect this to work.
>>
>> I would assume you have installed Nvidia's drivers right? They are Linux
>> only.
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RE: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Lane

At 04:55 PM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>No, I just installed basic 4.2.0 sources (via gentoo), compiled & installed,
>ran XFree86 -configure, and it worked (even recognized and properly
>configured my Philips monitor).

Hmm, you will probably want Nvidia's drivers. The open source nv driver has 
limited if any hardware 3D support which makes your GeForce4 card an 
expensive 2D card.


>At 04:11 PM 6/11/02, you wrote:
> >Hmmm, my GeForce 4 MX 440 (VisionTek) works beautifully under 4.2.0 under
> >Linux ... so unless there are real differences in the server code between
> >FreeBSD and Linux, I would expect this to work.
>
>I would assume you have installed Nvidia's drivers right? They are Linux
>only.
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RE: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Jeffery S. Norman

No, I just installed basic 4.2.0 sources (via gentoo), compiled & installed,
ran XFree86 -configure, and it worked (even recognized and properly
configured my Philips monitor).

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At 04:11 PM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>Hmmm, my GeForce 4 MX 440 (VisionTek) works beautifully under 4.2.0 under
>Linux ... so unless there are real differences in the server code between
>FreeBSD and Linux, I would expect this to work.

I would assume you have installed Nvidia's drivers right? They are Linux
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RE: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Jeffery S. Norman wrote:

> Hmmm, my GeForce 4 MX 440 (VisionTek) works beautifully under 4.2.0 under
> Linux ... so unless there are real differences in the server code between
> FreeBSD and Linux, I would expect this to work.

   Only the early board revisions work with the 4.2 "nv" driver, which
were all I had access to at the time.  After 4.2 I found that the nv
driver was too simple to support many if not most of the newer NV17
boards.  All should work in CVS, however.


Mark.

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Mark Vojkovich
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:39 PM
> To: XFree86 mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Stephen Wenzler wrote:
> 
> > does 4.2.0. supports Geforce4 MX 440 video card?
> 
>GeForce4 cards aren't likely to work properly with 4.2.0.
> They should work fine in XFree86 CVS, however.
> 
> 
>   Mark.

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Re: [Xpert]XShmPutImage and Interpolation

2002-06-11 Thread Billy Biggs

Mark Vojkovich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Billy Biggs wrote:
> 
> > In windows this functionality is exported transparently using
> > DirectDraw/StretchBlt.  I think XVideo is probably the best API to
> > extend on the linux side.
> 
> It depends what you want to do with it.  In the case of NVIDIA's
> binary drivers these do not use the overlay for RGB, but if some
> drivers do, it's not really useful for much other than video.  I think
> it would be a mistake to write an application that relies on blitted
> (not overlaid) RGB Xv support unless you only wanted to target a
> particular hardware platform.
> 
>For the general case, you're really much better off using OpenGL,
> which is guaranteed to support this.

  Giving it some more thought:  I agree we should be using OpenGL even
for 2D scaling.  My little hack to the XVideo driver was to compare
speed performance, as the texture upload speed for high-framerate 2D
graphics was really slow using the DRI drivers.  I should probably fix
the DRI code instead of using XVideo.

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RE: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Lane

At 04:11 PM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>Hmmm, my GeForce 4 MX 440 (VisionTek) works beautifully under 4.2.0 under
>Linux ... so unless there are real differences in the server code between
>FreeBSD and Linux, I would expect this to work.

I would assume you have installed Nvidia's drivers right? They are Linux only.

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RE: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Jeffery S. Norman

Hmmm, my GeForce 4 MX 440 (VisionTek) works beautifully under 4.2.0 under
Linux ... so unless there are real differences in the server code between
FreeBSD and Linux, I would expect this to work.

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Stephen Wenzler wrote:

> does 4.2.0. supports Geforce4 MX 440 video card?

   GeForce4 cards aren't likely to work properly with 4.2.0.
They should work fine in XFree86 CVS, however.


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Re: [Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Stephen Wenzler wrote:

> does 4.2.0. supports Geforce4 MX 440 video card?

   GeForce4 cards aren't likely to work properly with 4.2.0.  
They should work fine in XFree86 CVS, however.


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Re: [Xpert]XShmPutImage and Interpolation

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Billy Biggs wrote:

> Detlef Grittner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > I've recently found out that NVidias Geforce2 does bilinear
> > Interpolation when scaling up and some linear interpolation when
> > scaling down images with DirectX on Windows.
> > I want to know whether that is a hardware feature?
> > Can I use XFree86 and have the same interpolation when using
> > XShmPutImage?  Which drivers for Nvidia cards will provide the
> > interpolation?
> > 
> > And do cards of other vendors have the interpolation and can I use it
> > with XFree86?
> 
>   With the texture engine in most cards these days you can get happy 2d
> R'G'B' scaling, and apparently some new cards can do gamma-correct
> scaling (woohoo!).  Hardware scaling is useful for emulators especially
> so you can get nice fullscreen modes without having to convince your
> monitor to get back to 320x240, and without hurting your CPU.
> 
>   I hacked the mga driver here to provide RGB surface scaling (565)
> using the XVideo API.  I'd like to see more drivers export RGB surface
> scaling using XVideo- this seems to be the right interface for it.  I
> haven't yet got a nice patch for my work done though, and I'm waiting
> for the 4.2 debian packages to help with doing a patch for 4.2.
> 
>   I hear that some other drivers (ati?) are exporting RGB surfaces
> already using XVideo.  I hope this continues, and that we can
> standardize on what fourcc's we should use.

NVIDIA's binary drivers offer an 8:8:8:8 XRGB surface via
X-video.

> 
>   In windows this functionality is exported transparently using
> DirectDraw/StretchBlt.  I think XVideo is probably the best API to
> extend on the linux side.

It depends what you want to do with it.  In the case of
NVIDIA's binary drivers these do not use the overlay for RGB,
but if some drivers do, it's not really useful for much other
than video.  I think it would be a mistake to write an application
that relies on blitted (not overlaid) RGB Xv support unless you
only wanted to target a particular hardware platform.

   For the general case, you're really much better off using
OpenGL, which is guaranteed to support this.


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Re: [Xpert]XShmPutImage and Interpolation

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello all!
> 
> I've recently found out that NVidias Geforce2 does bilinear 
> Interpolation when scaling up and some linear interpolation when scaling 
> down images with DirectX on Windows.
> I want to know whether that is a hardware feature?

   Yes it is a hardware feature.

> Can I use XFree86 and have the same interpolation when using XShmPutImage?
> Which drivers for Nvidia cards will provide the interpolation?

   XShmPutImage does not support scaling.  In fact, there are no scaling 
blits in X11 primitive set.  



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Re: [Xpert]XShmPutImage and Interpolation

2002-06-11 Thread Lionel Ulmer

>   I hear that some other drivers (ati?) are exporting RGB surfaces
> already using XVideo.  I hope this continues, and that we can
> standardize on what fourcc's we should use.

This already works in the NVIDIA closed source drivers on my TNT2U using the
XVideo extension and the "NV05 Video Blitter". This device supports a RGB
visual and thus is perfectly adapted to what you want to do.

And it really works pretty well for easy painless full screen emulators
(ScummVM in my case) and can't wait to have more cards support this nice
feature.

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[Xpert]Geforce4 MX 440

2002-06-11 Thread Stephen Wenzler

I'm curious, what version of FreeBSD that comes with Xfree86 4.2.0. on 
the CDROM also does 4.2.0. supports Geforce4 MX 440 video card?

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[Xpert]NumLock config option

2002-06-11 Thread Egbert Eich


In version 3 we used to have a config option to turn on
numLock on server startup.
This option still exists but only produces a warning
that it is obsolete. 
Was this option sacrificed because it didn't mix well with 
the xkb extension or is there now a better way to turn on 
numLock at startup time (other than running a client from 
one of the startup scripts of course)?

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Re: [Xpert]XShmPutImage and Interpolation

2002-06-11 Thread Billy Biggs

Detlef Grittner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> I've recently found out that NVidias Geforce2 does bilinear
> Interpolation when scaling up and some linear interpolation when
> scaling down images with DirectX on Windows.
> I want to know whether that is a hardware feature?
> Can I use XFree86 and have the same interpolation when using
> XShmPutImage?  Which drivers for Nvidia cards will provide the
> interpolation?
> 
> And do cards of other vendors have the interpolation and can I use it
> with XFree86?

  With the texture engine in most cards these days you can get happy 2d
R'G'B' scaling, and apparently some new cards can do gamma-correct
scaling (woohoo!).  Hardware scaling is useful for emulators especially
so you can get nice fullscreen modes without having to convince your
monitor to get back to 320x240, and without hurting your CPU.

  I hacked the mga driver here to provide RGB surface scaling (565)
using the XVideo API.  I'd like to see more drivers export RGB surface
scaling using XVideo- this seems to be the right interface for it.  I
haven't yet got a nice patch for my work done though, and I'm waiting
for the 4.2 debian packages to help with doing a patch for 4.2.

  I hear that some other drivers (ati?) are exporting RGB surfaces
already using XVideo.  I hope this continues, and that we can
standardize on what fourcc's we should use.

  In windows this functionality is exported transparently using
DirectDraw/StretchBlt.  I think XVideo is probably the best API to
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[Xpert]XShmPutImage and Interpolation

2002-06-11 Thread Detlef Grittner

Hello all!

I've recently found out that NVidias Geforce2 does bilinear 
Interpolation when scaling up and some linear interpolation when scaling 
down images with DirectX on Windows.
I want to know whether that is a hardware feature?
Can I use XFree86 and have the same interpolation when using XShmPutImage?
Which drivers for Nvidia cards will provide the interpolation?

And do cards of other vendors have the interpolation and can I use it 
with XFree86?

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Lane

At 10:44 AM 6/11/02, you wrote:
>On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:39:36AM -0600, Mark Lane wrote:
> > At 07:02 AM 6/10/02, you wrote:
> >
> > >I suppose every knows this, if so please
> > >ignore.
> > >
> > >I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
> > >2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
> > >My machine goes completely dead when I start X.
> > >
> > >I have a Radeon 8500.
> >
> > Check out ATI drivers for the FireGL 8800. Apparently they work though are
> > somewhat buggy.
>
>I tested it.
>
>This driver does not work for me (Tyan Thunder dual Athlon MB/Radeon
>8500). The Xserver is incredibly slow in both 2D/3D when DRM is
>enabled. It looks like every framebuffer area copies fail in
>this mode. It sounds like an AGP problem. ATI includes a customized
>agpgart driver, which fails to init. The regular agpgart module is then
>loaded, but its use counter remains at zero. Booting with mem=nopentium
>doesn't help.
>
>So I'll personnaly wait for the open source DRI driver for this board :-)

Hmm,

I bet ATI would be interested to know that their driver doesn't work with 
AMD's Chipset. They would probably want to fix it. Most likely their AGP 
driver needs to have Irongate support added like the linux did.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 8500 kernel module

2002-06-11 Thread Fabrice Bellet

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:39:36AM -0600, Mark Lane wrote:
> At 07:02 AM 6/10/02, you wrote:
> 
> >I suppose every knows this, if so please
> >ignore.
> >
> >I have a dual Athlon 1600+MP.  I tried the
> >2.5.21 kernel enabled with the radeon module.
> >My machine goes completely dead when I start X.
> >
> >I have a Radeon 8500.
> 
> Check out ATI drivers for the FireGL 8800. Apparently they work though are 
> somewhat buggy.

I tested it.

This driver does not work for me (Tyan Thunder dual Athlon MB/Radeon
8500). The Xserver is incredibly slow in both 2D/3D when DRM is
enabled. It looks like every framebuffer area copies fail in 
this mode. It sounds like an AGP problem. ATI includes a customized 
agpgart driver, which fails to init. The regular agpgart module is then 
loaded, but its use counter remains at zero. Booting with mem=nopentium 
doesn't help.

So I'll personnaly wait for the open source DRI driver for this board :-)

-- 
fabrice
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[Xpert]LocalClient extensions vs. ssh

2002-06-11 Thread Egbert Eich



When running X request thru a ssh tunnel LocalClient() returns
true as the sshd connects to the Xserver from the same machine.
 
This leads to unpredictable results and even system crashes
if an application that can only run locally is started on a remote
system.

If for example an application wants to address the framebuffer
directly thru DGA it will try to map the framebuffer on the machine
it is started on not the one where the Xserver lives on.

Even though this requires root privileges I do consider this to
be a problem that should be adressed.

Any ideas?

Egbert.
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[Xpert]DGA keyboard state vs. Xkb

2002-06-11 Thread Egbert Eich


There is a long standing issue with DGA and xkb:

When handling the keyboard from inside  DGA it tries to keep the 
core keyboard state in sync. This is sufficient if no xkb 
extension is active. 
If the xkb extension is active however its internal state
can get out of sync with unpredictable results if the core
state has changed between start and exit of DGA mode.

I worked around this by simply not updating the core state
while inside of DGA if the xkb extension is active.

Is there any deeper reason why DGA keeps the core keyboard
state up to date or is this rather cosmetic?

Egbert.
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[Xpert]Joystick driver redux

2002-06-11 Thread Fred Heitkamp


I was trying to get the joystick driver compiled (in
Xfree 4.2.0) and I got several errors.  Searching through
some old xpert messages, I found that the errors are a known
problem. What was the concensus on the driver?  Is it not
required?  I was trying to get joystick support in xmame
working.  I got my USB joystick to work with svgalib, but
want it to work with X11 too.

Fred

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Re: [Xpert]Problems with PS/2 Port

2002-06-11 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:53:33AM +0200, Tobias Gion wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD 5.0-stable, and all works fine 8-)

There is no such thing as "5.0-STABLE", since it's -CURRENT FreeBSD
development branch.  You would have to wait at least haft a year before
5.0 goes stable.

./danfe

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Re: [Xpert]Xinerama + Gnome instability?

2002-06-11 Thread Matti Airas

On ma, 2002-06-10 at 22:44, Xavier Bestel wrote:

> I had similar problems (VERY annoying) and managed to work around them
> by disabling the xfs font server. Since then it works quite well.

Thanks! That fixed it!

Best regards,

Matti Airas


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Re: Re: [Xpert]i810 + KDE display corruption

2002-06-11 Thread Dirk Stöffler

Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:

> > >I've been using "DacSpeed 230" on my i815 for a couple of years.
> > >
> > I gave this a thought and decided that DacSpeed 160, no more is needed
> > here, couldn't possibly do any harm. Well, whoever put these 
> defaults in
> > with the driver knew what he was doing: I get such a horrible flicker
> > all over the screen when I move or scroll something I couldn't believe
> > it. I went so far as to boot up my old Windows because I started
> > becoming suspicious about my hardware: same settings, everything's fine.
> >
> > The default dacspeeds are 163 for 16bpp and 136 for 24bpp!
>
> Note that the default speeds are the same for all chipsets;
> I wouldn't be suprised if different chipsets have different dac speed
> limits.


Intel specifies 230MHz for i810, too.

> However I suspect that the real issue is the speed of the memory;


Right, the memory bandwidth, I meanwhile learned. But 3B x 157.5MHz vs. 800MB/s seems 
a fair enough distance for a short test with Intel calling these settings "supported". 
And who would have thought Windows is telling lies about its video settings? ;-)


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Re: Re: [Xpert]i810 + KDE display corruption

2002-06-11 Thread Dirk Stöffler

Paul Matthias Diderichsen wrote:

  > A year ago, I had the severe version of the problem you describe. I
  > was able to (almost - once in a while there are a few stribes) cure
  > it by upgrading the bios

My interpretation of this "almost" is that a BIOS upgrade doesn't fix
the bug, but that a change in BIOS may also change the frequency of the
bug getting triggered. This may be useful information, too.



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