[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1938 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE)
This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 22:25 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: is ATI Radeon 7000 Video w/ 64MB supported with xfree86 for redhat Linux 7.1 (Walter Logeman) 2. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1937 - 1 msg (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Walter Logeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Xpert]is ATI Radeon 7000 Video w/ 64MB supported with xfree86 for redhat Linux 7.1 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:35:19 +1200 Organization: psybernet Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr Andrew C Aitchison, > IIRC xf86config is obsolete in 4.2, and should have been removed. > > Try configuring with either > X -configure > or > xf86cfg > instead. Really? I have been trying to get Mandrake 8.2 running on my Dell i8100 trying all sorts of configuration of /etc/X11/XF86config-4 They make a difference (eg without an Option "noaccel" the whole thing crashes the screen.) But i cant get it to use my ATI Radeon card well at all. Am i configuring the wrong file? Walter --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:52:06 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1937 - 1 msg (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 21:45 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1936 - 1 msg (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:11:48 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1936 - 1 msg (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 21:05 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1935 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:31:46 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1935 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 20:25 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol? (James A. Crippen) 2. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1934 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE O
[Xpert]Trident 9660 Xv bug?
I believe there may be a bug in the XFree86 4.2 Xv drivers for Trident 9660 chips. I have a laptop with a Trident 9660 graphics controller, and when I try to run Xine using Xv, this is what I get: xine menace_480.mov This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.11 (c) 2000-2002 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team. Built with xine library 0.9.11 [Sat 22 Jun 2002 20:14:54]-[gcc version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)]-[Linux 2.4.18-xfs i586]. Found xine library version: 0.9.11 (0.9.11cvs). XServer Vendor: The XFree86 Project, Inc. Release: 4020, Protocol Version: 11, Revision: 0, Available Screen(s): 1, using 0 Depth: 16. tvmode: cannot connect to nvtvd - no TV mode switching available Display is not using Xinerama. tvmode: not connected to nvtvd for switching video_out_xv: using Xv port 55 from adaptor Trident Backend Scaler for hardware colorspace conversion and scaling. video_out_xv: port attribute XV_COLORKEY value is 0 X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 141 (XVideo) Minor opcode of failed request: 14 () Serial number of failed request: 1110 Current serial number in output stream: 1110 I beleive the bug to be in X, rather than xine, because after I've done this, any attempt to access the Xv system gives an error: [wowbaggr@wanderer animations.2]$ xvinfo X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 Adaptor #0: "Trident Backend Scaler" number of ports: 1 port base: 55 operations supported: PutImage supported visuals: depth 16, visualID 0x23 depth 16, visualID 0x24 number of attributes: 6 "XV_COLORKEY" (range 0 to 16777215) client settable attribute client gettable attribute (current value is 0) "XV_SATURATION" (range 0 to 187) client settable attribute X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 141 (XVideo) Minor opcode of failed request: 14 () Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14 client gettable attribute[wowbaggr@wanderer animations.2]$ [wowbaggr@wanderer animations.2]$ For reference, here's what's on the bus: lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C501/2 00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513 (rev 01) 00:01.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C601 (rev 01) 00:06.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems TGUI 9660/968x/968x (rev d3) 00:0d.0 PCMCIA bridge: Omega Micro Inc. 82C092G (rev 02) 00:0e.0 PCMCIA bridge: Omega Micro Inc. 82C092G (rev 02) This is with the binaries available from XFree86.org - not a CVS pull. Has anybody else seen this? Is there any other info I can provide? ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1937 - 1 msg (OUT OF THE OFFICE)
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> The general answer is, the usual, "it depends". The documentation for different
> extensions is in different places, if it exists at all.
Argh. That's what I expected to hear.
> For the specific case of XFree86-Misc, the answer is that the documentation
> is distributed amongst:
>
> 1) the XF86Misc man page (which documents the C interface, but
> in so doing includes some bits that can be used to infer
> documentation about the protocol)
Ah, of course there'd be a man page for it. Why'd I not look there
first? Sigh.
> 2) xc/include/extensions/xf86vm{ode,str}.h
And there second? Should have thought about it... Duh.
> 3) Some neurons in my brain that I haven't accessed in more
> than half a decade
And there third? So obvious! ^_^
'james
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> The general answer is, the usual, "it depends". The documentation for different
> extensions is in different places, if it exists at all.
Argh. That's what I expected to hear.
> For the specific case of XFree86-Misc, the answer is that the documentation
> is distributed amongst:
>
> 1) the XF86Misc man page (which documents the C interface, but
> in so doing includes some bits that can be used to infer
> documentation about the protocol)
Ah, of course there'd be a man page for it. Why'd I not look there
first? Sigh.
> 2) xc/include/extensions/xf86vm{ode,str}.h
And there second? Should have thought about it... Duh.
> 3) Some neurons in my brain that I haven't accessed in more
> than half a decade
And there third? So obvious! ^_^
'james
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> The general answer is, the usual, "it depends". The documentation for different
> extensions is in different places, if it exists at all.
Argh. That's what I expected to hear.
> For the specific case of XFree86-Misc, the answer is that the documentation
> is distributed amongst:
>
> 1) the XF86Misc man page (which documents the C interface, but
> in so doing includes some bits that can be used to infer
> documentation about the protocol)
Ah, of course there'd be a man page for it. Why'd I not look there
first? Sigh.
> 2) xc/include/extensions/xf86vm{ode,str}.h
And there second? Should have thought about it... Duh.
> 3) Some neurons in my brain that I haven't accessed in more
> than half a decade
And there third? So obvious! ^_^
'james
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[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1934 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE)
This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 19:45 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1933 - 5 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) 2. Re: Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol? (James A. Crippen) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:38 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1933 - 5 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 17:25 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1932 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) 2. Re: Trident bug (kiss the sun and walk on air) 3. Gotchas with NFS Root filesystem? (Skip Gaede) 4. Re: Trident bug (Egbert Eich) 5. Re: Trident bug (Alan Hourihane) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:51:35 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1932 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 13:00 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) 2. Re: Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol? (Jens Owen) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:52:06 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 07:45 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE VGA-Out (Zhicong Liang) 2. Re: Re: 10-bits per colour (Ross Vandegrift) 3. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1928 - 5 msgs (Dean S. Messing) 4. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Olivier Fourdan) 5. Re: startx works, but xdm fails (Matthieu Herrb) 6. Static Color setting (=?iso-8859-1?q?sanal=20kumar?=) 7. Re: Trident bug (Egbert Eich) 8. Re: Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Egbert Eich) 9. Re: Trident bug (Norman Walsh) 10. Slow opaque window resizing (Lukas Molzberger) 11. Re: AW: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 12. Re: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 13. keyboard on IBook (Christian Berger) 14. dual head on a Radeon VE (Geof
Re: [Xpert]Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The general answer is, the usual, "it depends". The documentation for different
> extensions is in different places, if it exists at all.
Argh. That's what I expected to hear.
> For the specific case of XFree86-Misc, the answer is that the documentation
> is distributed amongst:
>
> 1) the XF86Misc man page (which documents the C interface, but
> in so doing includes some bits that can be used to infer
> documentation about the protocol)
Ah, of course there'd be a man page for it. Why'd I not look there
first? Sigh.
> 2) xc/include/extensions/xf86vm{ode,str}.h
And there second? Should have thought about it... Duh.
> 3) Some neurons in my brain that I haven't accessed in more
> than half a decade
And there third? So obvious! ^_^
'james
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Re: [Xpert]Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol?
Jens Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The general answer is, the usual, "it depends". The documentation > > for different extensions is in different places, if it exists at > > all. > > Should we consider putting protocol documents in a common place under > the source tree? Since the official X Consortium documentation is already extant in the source tree, and since the formats aren't standardized for this anyway (some is in text only, some is in troff+ms macros, some is in FrameMaker (for some weird reason, and totally useless to Freenix folk)), I think it'd be a very good idea to do so. Maybe just add a new xc/doc/xfree86 directory and put everything specific to XFree86 in there. Whatever formats are available. Plain text, SGML/DocBook, PostScript, troff, TeX... It's all pretty anarchic anyway. > Currently, the DRI extension encoding can only be found at > http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_extensions_low_level.txt And hunting this sort of stuff down from the existing docs, even from the XFree86 web page, is not exactly obvious... :-( 'james -- James A. Crippen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.20939N, -149.767W Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F))\_,-_/ Milky Way. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1933 - 5 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE)
This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 17:25 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1932 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) 2. Re: Trident bug (kiss the sun and walk on air) 3. Gotchas with NFS Root filesystem? (Skip Gaede) 4. Re: Trident bug (Egbert Eich) 5. Re: Trident bug (Alan Hourihane) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:51:35 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1932 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 13:00 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) 2. Re: Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol? (Jens Owen) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:52:06 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 07:45 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE VGA-Out (Zhicong Liang) 2. Re: Re: 10-bits per colour (Ross Vandegrift) 3. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1928 - 5 msgs (Dean S. Messing) 4. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Olivier Fourdan) 5. Re: startx works, but xdm fails (Matthieu Herrb) 6. Static Color setting (=?iso-8859-1?q?sanal=20kumar?=) 7. Re: Trident bug (Egbert Eich) 8. Re: Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Egbert Eich) 9. Re: Trident bug (Norman Walsh) 10. Slow opaque window resizing (Lukas Molzberger) 11. Re: AW: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 12. Re: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 13. keyboard on IBook (Christian Berger) 14. dual head on a Radeon VE (Geoffrey) -- __--__-- Message: 1 From: "Zhicong Liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:59:46 + Subject: [Xpert]RE VGA-Out Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks it works, but one more question. Where can I get the document for these "Option" setting for XConfigure?? Thanks again! >I guess the problem with it is, the radeon chip always think the monitor >attach to it is a LCD, hence it refuses to work in higher frequency any >ideas?? >>Try Option "CRTScreen" _ Join the world*s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:20:24 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: 10-bits per colour Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The delimiting factor, I agree, would be the human eye! I wonder, if it > > is capable of distinguishing between 1024 shades of a primary color? > > Probably not, especially since there are colours too bright and too dim > for a monitor to show. However with only 256 shades the steps
Re: [Xpert]Trident bug
On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 03:12:50 +0200, Egbert Eich wrote: > Norman Walsh writes: > > > > -2 works best, but it's not enough. If those are pixel values, I think > > something like -12 would work better. > > According to my trident data books - which aren't on CyberBlades XP, Ai > etc - the range goes from -2 to 5. Maybe that's different on the newer > chips. Alan, do you have more informations on that? Just checked, and it's still the same for the XP series. Alan. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Trident bug
Norman Walsh writes: > > -2 works best, but it's not enough. If those are pixel values, I think > something like -12 would work better. > According to my trident data books - which aren't on CyberBlades XP, Ai etc - the range goes from -2 to 5. Maybe that's different on the newer chips. Alan, do you have more informations on that? Egbert. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Gotchas with NFS Root filesystem?
Folks, I have a Mac client that's running XFree86 (4.2.0) -query + Mozilla and losing lots of size-2048 buffers. The rate loss is approximately 1000 buffers/hour. I'm seeing this loss of memory after I boot with an initrd, get an IP address with dhclient and do a pivot_root onto the read-only NFS file system. I can also boot the the client to a bash prompt on the local hard drive and then run XFree86 -query + Mozilla as before. I went so far as to mung rc.sysinit and leave the local filesystem mounted RO and mount -t shm to /var and /tmp. Under these conditions, both with and without the local filesystem mounted RO, the size-2048 buffer utilization is nominal. Anyone ever seen or heard of this before? Any thoughts on how to isolate this to a root cause? Thanks, Skip ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Trident bug
On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 10:22:13AM +, Norman Walsh wrote: > | Yes, the option is in there, now. > | It is called "FpDelay" and can have the range -2 to 5. > | > | Please let us know which values work for you best. > > -2 works best, but it's not enough. If those are pixel values, I think > something like -12 would work better. Agreed. A positive value exacerbates the the problem. The ability to go farther in the negative direction is needed to find the best value. Thanks for the work, Egbert. -pete -- (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://fotap.org/~osi jabber/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating msg07118/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1932 - 2 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE)
This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 13:00 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) (Jason Craddock) 2. Re: Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol? (Jens Owen) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:52:06 -0600 From: "Jason Craddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 07:45 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE VGA-Out (Zhicong Liang) 2. Re: Re: 10-bits per colour (Ross Vandegrift) 3. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1928 - 5 msgs (Dean S. Messing) 4. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Olivier Fourdan) 5. Re: startx works, but xdm fails (Matthieu Herrb) 6. Static Color setting (=?iso-8859-1?q?sanal=20kumar?=) 7. Re: Trident bug (Egbert Eich) 8. Re: Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Egbert Eich) 9. Re: Trident bug (Norman Walsh) 10. Slow opaque window resizing (Lukas Molzberger) 11. Re: AW: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 12. Re: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 13. keyboard on IBook (Christian Berger) 14. dual head on a Radeon VE (Geoffrey) -- __--__-- Message: 1 From: "Zhicong Liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:59:46 + Subject: [Xpert]RE VGA-Out Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks it works, but one more question. Where can I get the document for these "Option" setting for XConfigure?? Thanks again! >I guess the problem with it is, the radeon chip always think the monitor >attach to it is a LCD, hence it refuses to work in higher frequency any >ideas?? >>Try Option "CRTScreen" _ Join the world*s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:20:24 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: 10-bits per colour Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The delimiting factor, I agree, would be the human eye! I wonder, if it > > is capable of distinguishing between 1024 shades of a primary color? > > Probably not, especially since there are colours too bright and too dim > for a monitor to show. However with only 256 shades the steps between > adjacent colors are not always even (gamma mapping can reduce this problem) > and it isn't difficult to find single steps which are very obvious, > especially on a gray ramp. 1024 shades makes it easer to make the steps > even, and maybe allow all of them to be invisible. Also, I've heard that the eyes different responsiveness to various parts of the light spectrum can affect it. For example, two shades of blue in 8 bits that are one bit apart will be completely indistinguishable. But some greens that are one bit apart are discernable. Phenomeneoa like this make 10-bit color sound like a very cool idea to me. Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __--__-- Message: 3 From: "Dean S. Messing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1928 - 5 msgs Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christoph Koulen writes: :: > :: > You do realize that potentially no monitor, and certainly no LCD screen, :: > can output this level of color, right? (Perhaps they dither it down?) :: > 10 bits per channel is primarily useful for internal calculations, as :: > far as I know. :: > :: > So you'd better start your investigation with: "can I even
Re: [Xpert]Documentation on XF86 extensions to X protocol?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The general answer is, the usual, "it depends". The documentation for different > extensions is in different places, if it exists at all. Should we consider putting protocol documents in a common place under the source tree? Currently, the DRI extension encoding can only be found at http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_extensions_low_level.txt -- /\ Jens Owen/ \/\ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ \ \ Steamboat Springs, Colorado ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1931 - 14 msgs (OUT OF THE OFFICE)
This message has been automatically generated. Jason will be out of the office from June 24th through July 1st. If you need immediate assistance please contact Alisa Ott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 801-225-6080. Thank you, Jason Craddock >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 06/22/02 07:45 >>> Send Xpert mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xpert digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE VGA-Out (Zhicong Liang) 2. Re: Re: 10-bits per colour (Ross Vandegrift) 3. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1928 - 5 msgs (Dean S. Messing) 4. Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Olivier Fourdan) 5. Re: startx works, but xdm fails (Matthieu Herrb) 6. Static Color setting (=?iso-8859-1?q?sanal=20kumar?=) 7. Re: Trident bug (Egbert Eich) 8. Re: Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs (Egbert Eich) 9. Re: Trident bug (Norman Walsh) 10. Slow opaque window resizing (Lukas Molzberger) 11. Re: AW: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 12. Re: Re: again firegl8700 (Mike A. Harris) 13. keyboard on IBook (Christian Berger) 14. dual head on a Radeon VE (Geoffrey) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Zhicong Liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:59:46 + Subject: [Xpert]RE VGA-Out Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks it works, but one more question. Where can I get the document for these "Option" setting for XConfigure?? Thanks again! >I guess the problem with it is, the radeon chip always think the monitor >attach to it is a LCD, hence it refuses to work in higher frequency any >ideas?? >>Try Option "CRTScreen" _ Join the worldÆs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:20:24 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: 10-bits per colour Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The delimiting factor, I agree, would be the human eye! I wonder, if it > > is capable of distinguishing between 1024 shades of a primary color? > > Probably not, especially since there are colours too bright and too dim > for a monitor to show. However with only 256 shades the steps between > adjacent colors are not always even (gamma mapping can reduce this problem) > and it isn't difficult to find single steps which are very obvious, > especially on a gray ramp. 1024 shades makes it easer to make the steps > even, and maybe allow all of them to be invisible. Also, I've heard that the eyes different responsiveness to various parts of the light spectrum can affect it. For example, two shades of blue in 8 bits that are one bit apart will be completely indistinguishable. But some greens that are one bit apart are discernable. Phenomeneoa like this make 10-bit color sound like a very cool idea to me. Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Dean S. Messing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1928 - 5 msgs Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christoph Koulen writes: :: > :: > You do realize that potentially no monitor, and certainly no LCD screen, :: > can output this level of color, right? (Perhaps they dither it down?) :: > 10 bits per channel is primarily useful for internal calculations, as :: > far as I know. :: > :: > So you'd better start your investigation with: "can I even see 10 bits :: > per channel?" rather than "how?". :: > :: > -ray skoog :: > :: :: To my knowledge, a monitor is an analogous device, that can potetially :: display _any number_ of intermediate shades of each primary colour. I take it you mean "analogue" when you write "analogous"? If so, then you need to consider the existence of _digital_ flat panel (FP) displays, most of which are, today, LCD devices of some sort. Though one could argue that (ultimately) these, too, are analogue at bottom, it is not usually useful to think in these terms unless you are a device physicist or a LCD driver circuit designer. :: Isn't the RAMDAC (Digital-Analog Converter) the chip, that converts a :: digital value (i.e. a 10bit color value) into a voltage that ultimatly :: drives the intensity of each of the monitor's color guns? I cannot see a :: reason, why a color gun wouldn't respond to any intermediate voltage :: level. If it weren't driven by a RAMDAC of inherently limited resolution :: but a power supply capable of outputting a continuous voltage range... If the FP is digital then y
[Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE
I've been trying to get dual head working on my retail Radeon VE. I've toggled between Xfree 4.2 and the Gatos stuff. I know some folks have this working, both retail and oem cards. I keep getting the message: Please use only one Device/Screen section in your XFConfig file Which doesn't make sense from the examples I've found on the xinerama howto and two articles on dual head I've reviewed from Linux Journal. When my box first boots, the two monitors mirror the boot output and console output afterwards. My card has vga, flat screen, and tv outputs. I've got a Viewsonic 20G on the vga and a small converter that came with the card on the flat screen output with a 15" Nec monitor. I'm running kernel 2.4 Mandrake 8.0. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Until later: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't have to buy my radio from a specific company to listen to FM, why doesn't that apply to the Internet (anymore...)? ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]keyboard on IBook
Servus Well I have Xfree 4.2.0 running on my IBook. It works fine except for some problems with the keyboard. All the special characters like @ don't work anymore. For example @ worked with Alt+Shift+1 It worked with an older version. Any ideas what it could be? Servus Casandro ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Re: Re: again firegl8700
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: >> >01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:5148 (rev 80) >> >thank you >> >> No, thank you! ;o) I've just updated our hardware database to >> autodetect the FireGL 8700 as 1002:5148 >> >> Does anyone know what the ATI FireGL 8800's PCI ID is? I'll add >> that one too. > >Is there enough pattern to the ATI PCI chip ids to guess which >driver to use for unknown chips? The ATI hardware documentation provides enough information to know what family (Mach64/R128/Radeon R100/RV100/R200/RV200) wether or not it is a Mobility chip, and which one, etc. I haven't noticed anywhere in the docs which show the actual board names used to market the video hardware such as "Xpert@Work 98", "FireGL 8700", etc. A fair number of these ID's we can autodetect and point to the right driver, since if XFree86 supports the card, then it has the PCI ID listed internally, and we can just use that info to provide the right driver. If I'm unsure if a card will work or not, and don't have one, I look at the docs, and the code, and try to add support that will hopefully work (and mostly has so far). However I may not know a given card is a "ATI Radeon 7200" per se. (random example). So users wont actually see "ATI Radeon 7200" show up as autodetected currently, they'll see "ATI Radeon QD" or whatever it happens to be. By the way... what is the "lspci -vn" output of a Radeon 7000, 7200 so I can make these autodetect with proper names. ;o) >For example we could have guessed that the 1002:5148 would user >the same driver as 1002:5144 - 1002:5148. When we add the ID to >the hardware database it isn't as if we actually change the >driver in any way. Well, when it is added to XFree86 xf86PciInfo.h, the driver does need to change, so whoever is making those changes needs to know if it is a Radeon or whatever, or what driver it should get added to, as the conditional code paths in the given driver will need to be updated for the new card. That coupled with the ATI tech specs allows me to set up the PCItable to choose the right driver. For some hardware we may not know if it _works_, but that is what beta testing is for. If something doesn't work, it can be fixed and/or disabled, or the "vesa" driver used temporarily instead. I'm looking into getting a more proper official list of the PCI ID's and the marketing names they map into, so users will see the name of their actual card as it says on the box rather than seeing "ATI Radeon QW" or similar in dialogs, etc. Take care! TTYL -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Re: AW: Re: again firegl8700
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Johannes Rath wrote: >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:20:05 +0200 >From: Johannes Rath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >List-Id: General X Discussion >Subject: AW: Re: again firegl8700 > >Mike, > >that's not correct. > >1002:5148 is the chip ID for the r200 (used on both boards) > >The boards can be found in the subdevice ID: > >ATI FireGL 8700 >1002:0172 > >ATI FireGL 8800 >1002:0152 Even better. Thanks John, I will update the list to detect both of these cards now. No idea if both cards work with the open source driver or not, but it doesn't hurt to find out. ;o) At least it wont show up autodetected improperly, or not at all in an lspci listing. Thanks again. -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Slow opaque window resizing
Hello, I'm using Linux and XFree for quite some time now and I'm a big fan of it. However, there is one bug that has always annoyed me. When I resize a window under XFree then it can take a long time until the content of this window is redrawn. I've also looked into the Mailing List archieves and found an discussion about this topic earlier, but it seemed to be without a result: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/render/2001-March/000829.html I think that it would be good to have this issue fixed for two reasons. First, it looks ugly and second, for many people resizing a window is a simple way of testing the performance of a new OS like Linux. First I also thought that this is an performance problem but I've tested it on really fast hardware and that didn't make much difference. Now I've looked a little bit closer and noticed that it more kind of an synchronization problem between X, the WM and the App, than an performance problem. While resizing a window it's frame is redrawn at a very high rate. Only the window contents is redrawn very slowly. It sometimes even takes seconds to redraw. I think the problem is like this: First the window manager gets an event from the mouse and decides that the window needs to be resized. For every new mouse position it receives, the WM draws a new window decoration. At the same time the WM sends a message through X to the application that the window content needs to be refreshed. Unfortunately, the application needs more time to redraw than the WM and is also running at a lower priority. Therefore the application throws many redraw requests away. In my opinion, the solution would be that after the WM has send the redraw request to the application it should wait until the application has finished redrawing the window before processing the next mouse event. I had a look into the X api but I didn't figure out how the WM could detect if the redawing is finished or not. But it might be that I've overlooked it. One way of getting this information would be to let the WM and the application talk directly to each other, but I think that this would be a hack. I would have tried to come up with a patch on my own, but I really don't know enough about XFree to do that. Another thing that I've noticed is that when moving a window from left to right or vice versa the window is split along a line and the upper part of the window is drawn at a slightly different position than the lower part. This splitting line is always at a different position. I think this happens because X doesn't synchronize with the horizontal screen refresh. X should wait until the screen refresh is finished before changing the frame buffer so that only a consistent picture is brought to the screen. In case I got something wrong here than I would like to apologize for it. Cheers, Lukas ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Trident bug
/ Egbert Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | It is not a bug. Or at least not in the driver. It is the BIOS that's | doing things wrong. I really appreciate your efforts to help work around the problem. | Yes, the option is in there, now. | It is called "FpDelay" and can have the range -2 to 5. | | Please let us know which values work for you best. -2 works best, but it's not enough. If those are pixel values, I think something like -12 would work better. Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Is your cucumber bitter? Throw it away. http://nwalsh.com/| Are there briars in your path? Turn | aside. That is enough. Do not go on to | say, 'Why were things of this sort ever | brought into the world?'--Marcus | Aurelius ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #1930 - 2 msgs
Olivier Fourdan writes: > > > Sorry, but... Nope, it's worst. > > > > Is it purely Xvideo stuff that's broken now ? > > Yes, the rest is fine as far as I can tell. I obviously cannot take a > snapshot of what I get (because all I get on the screenshot is the > chromakey). I may try taking a picture with my digital camera if you > want. > I was hoping to fix your problem. Now it got worse. I don't see anything in the changed code that would make it worse for you. Could you please try if you get the same problem if you play a video that is less than 384 pixels wide? Unfortunately I introduced a bug there. Egbert. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Trident bug
Norman Walsh writes: > / Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > | That driver is up now. Please test it. > > Might one gently inquire if this version supports the manual override for > that pixel-shift bug? > It is not a bug. Or at least not in the driver. It is the BIOS that's doing things wrong. Yes, the option is in there, now. It is called "FpDelay" and can have the range -2 to 5. Please let us know which values work for you best. Egbert. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
