RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-04-25 Thread Jim L
I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV version is of
course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was said to be
from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't really know
for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS turned
out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close examination be
several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early and late
this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.

* early show
# late show

01. Black Napkins #
02. Montana #
03. Easy Meat #
04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
07. Fine Girl #
08. Teenage Wind #
09. Harder Than Your Husband #
10. Bamboozled By Love #
11. We're Turning Again *
12. Alien Orifice *
13. Flakes *
14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
15. You Are What You Is *
16. Mudd Club *
17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
18. Dumb All Over *
19. Heavenly Bank Account *
20. Suicide Chump *
21. Jumbo Go Away *
22. Stevie's Spanking #
23. The Torture Never Stops #
24. Strictly Genteel #
25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #


Jim L
-Original Message-
From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bart
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:11 AM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

Howdy Folks,
Do you remember when some time ago video shows (in VCD format) were vined in
here? It had two cd discs called The Torture Never Stops named as the Early
Showand the other two discs were MTV which was the Late show.
My dillema is that in Fact The Torture NS. despite of its subtitle (Early
Show) is mostly from the late showor am I wrong?.
If I'm right here goes my questium...does the early show exist in video
format? and does anybody have the proper early show on video cd, and would
be willing to share?

Cheers
Bart

PS: here are the details of both shows:

The music played (according to Jon Naurin's FZShows):
Early show:

You Are What You Is 
Mudd Club 
The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing 
Dumb All Over 
Heavenly Bank Account (YCDTOSA Vol. 1) 
Suicide Chump (YCDTOSA Vol. 1) 
Jumbo Go Away (YCDTOSA Vol. 1) 
Envelopes 
Drowning Witch 
What's New In Baltimore? 
Moggio 
We're Turning Again 
Alien Orifice (part on YCDTOSA Vol. 6) 
Teen-age Prostitute 
Flakes 
Broken Hearts Are For Assholes 
The Blue Light 
Tinsel Town Rebellion 
Yo' Mama 
Bobby Brown 
City Of Tiny Lites 
Strictly Genteel 
Dancin' Fool 
Whippin' Post (Allman)


Late show:

Black Napkins (BTB I: As An Am) 
Montana 
Easy Meat 
Society Pages (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
I'm A Beautiful Guy (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
Beauty Knows No Pain (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
Charlie's Enormous Mouth (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
Fine Girl 
Teen-age Wind 
Harder Than Your Husband 
Bamboozled By Love 
Sinister Footwear II 
Stevie's Spanking 
Cocaine Decisions 
Nig Biz 
Doreen 
Goblin Girl 
Black Page #2 (BTB I: As An Am) 
Tryin' To Grow A Chin 
Strictly Genteel (YCDTOSA Vol. 6) 
The Torture Never Stops (BTB I: As An Am) 
Joe's Garage 
Why Does It Hurt When I Pee? 
The Illinois Enema Bandit 
King Kong 
Auld Lang Syne (Burns)





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Re: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread plotch12_r777r
I would like this set to compare,
what happened to my other message? 
Oh well...

John G in Kansas (us)<< Rand in US ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "John Gobetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> yes, Guy, I'd like to receive this great set & I promise to get 
them to the next viner as soon as I'm finished with them---john g in 
kansas
> 
> John G in Kansas (us)<< ???
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Guy 
>   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:13 PM
>   Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows 
Dillema
> 
> 
>   Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
>   orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that 
wants 
>   them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention to 
>   receive this and get me your mailing address.
>   Happy new year everybody.
> 
>   --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L"  wrote:
>   >
>   > The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The 
TTNS 
>   DVD that I
>   > transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
>   contains portions
>   > of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter 
version 
>   of one of
>   > the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. 
Most 
>   of what
>   > was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The 
>   Dub Room
>   > Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 
>   show and the
>   > TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some 
>   casual time
>   > with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room 
at 
>   Amazon.
>   > 
>   > http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Jim L
>   > 
>   > _ 
>   > 
>   > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>   > Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
>   > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
>   > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
>   > Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
>   Shows Dillema
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Forgive my questions from this newcomer
>   > 
>   > Is this the same or different? Video?
>   > I would be interested in this to compare, if it
>   > is currently or still available, thanks!
>   > 
>   > Rand
>   > 
>   > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%
40yahoogroups.com> 
>   ups.com,
>   > Bart  wrote:
>   > 
>   > Hi Jim,
>   > thanks for an update!
>   > Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) 
in 
>   it, 
>   > not bad score after all ! :-)
>   > Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
>   > Cheers
>   > Bart
>   > 
>   > I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
>   version 
>   > is of
>   > course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was 
>   said 
>   > to be
>   > from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
>   > really know
>   > for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. 
TTNS 
>   > turned
>   > out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
>   examination be
>   > several who had audio versions that were for sure split as 
early 
>   and 
>   > late
>   > this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
>   > 
>   > * early show
>   > # late show
>   > 
>   > 01. Black Napkins #
>   > 02. Montana #
>   > 03. Easy Meat #
>   > 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
>   > 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
>   > 06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
>   > 07. Fine Girl #
>   > 08. Teenage Wind #
>   > 09. Harder Than Your Husband #
>   > 10. Bamboozled By Love #
>   > 11. We're Turning Again *
>   > 12. Alien Orifice *
>   > 13. Flakes *
>   > 14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
>   > 15. You Are What You Is *
>   > 16. Mudd Club *
>   > 17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
>   > 18. Dumb All Over *
>   > 19. Heavenly Bank Account *
>   > 20. Suicide Chump *
>   > 21. Jumbo Go Away *
>   > 22. Stevie's Spanking #
>   > 23. The Torture Never Stops #
>   > 24. Strictly Genteel #
>   > 25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #
>   > 
>   > --- End forwarded message ---
>   >
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
--

Re: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread plotch12_r777r
Hello Guy!

Yes, I am interested and would like to
receive this orphan vine next. You have an email!

Rand

[EMAIL PROTECTED]<<


--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
> orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that 
wants 
> them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention to 
> receive this and get me your mailing address.
> Happy new year everybody.
> 
> 
> --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L"  wrote:
> >
> > The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The TTNS 
> DVD that I
> > transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
> contains portions
> > of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter version 
> of one of
> > the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. 
Most 
> of what
> > was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The 
> Dub Room
> > Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 
> show and the
> > TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some 
> casual time
> > with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room at 
> Amazon.
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Jim L
> > 
> >   _  
> > 
> > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
> > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
> Shows Dillema
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Forgive my questions from this newcomer
> > 
> > Is this the same or different? Video?
> > I would be interested in this to compare, if it
> > is currently or still available, thanks!
> > 
> > Rand
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%40yahoogroups.com> 
> ups.com,
> > Bart  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Jim,
> > thanks for an update!
> > Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in 
> it, 
> > not bad score after all ! :-)
> > Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
> > Cheers
> > Bart
> > 
> > I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
> version 
> > is of
> > course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was 
> said 
> > to be
> > from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
> > really know
> > for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. 
TTNS 
> > turned
> > out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
> examination be
> > several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early 
> and 
> > late
> > this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
> > 
> > * early show
> > # late show
> > 
> > 01. Black Napkins #
> > 02. Montana #
> > 03. Easy Meat #
> > 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
> > 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
> > 06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
> > 07. Fine Girl #
> > 08. Teenage Wind #
> > 09. Harder Than Your Husband #
> > 10. Bamboozled By Love #
> > 11. We're Turning Again *
> > 12. Alien Orifice *
> > 13. Flakes *
> > 14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
> > 15. You Are What You Is *
> > 16. Mudd Club *
> > 17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
> > 18. Dumb All Over *
> > 19. Heavenly Bank Account *
> > 20. Suicide Chump *
> > 21. Jumbo Go Away *
> > 22. Stevie's Spanking #
> > 23. The Torture Never Stops #
> > 24. Strictly Genteel #
> > 25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #
> > 
> > --- End forwarded message ---
> >
>




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Re: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread Guy
Swell! I'll get this off to Rand in Texas, probably Tuesday.


--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hang on Kids!
> A new member responded to this first, but because his posts were 
still moderated and I was away from the machine, his response didn't 
come in until after John G's.
> (Apologies, Rand/plotch - that situation has been rectified.)
> So, the correct order of this new sprout - thanks to Guy for 
monitoring this one as he did! - should be:
> Rand in US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << John G in Kansas (us)<< ??
> Hope everyone is cool with this...
> Regards,
> SOFA
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: John Gobetz 
>   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:04 PM
>   Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows 
Dillema
> 
> 
>   yes, Guy, I'd like to receive this great set & I promise to get 
them to the next viner as soon as I'm finished with them---john g in 
kansas
> 
>   John G in Kansas (us)<< ???
> - Original Message - 
> From: Guy 
>     To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
>     Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
Shows Dillema
> 
> 
> Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
> orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that 
wants 
> them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention 
to 
> receive this and get me your mailing address.
> Happy new year everybody.
> 
> --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L"  wrote:
> >
> > The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The 
TTNS 
> DVD that I
> > transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
> contains portions
> > of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter 
version 
> of one of
> > the shows. Then there are a few other less complete 
versions. Most 
> of what
> > was on Night Flight came from the official release known as 
The 
> Dub Room
> > Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the 
KCET '73 
> show and the
> > TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and 
some 
> casual time
> > with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub 
Room at 
> Amazon.
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-
Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>     > Jim L
> > 
> > _ 
> > 
> > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
> > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from 
Both 
> Shows Dillema
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Forgive my questions from this newcomer
> > 
> > Is this the same or different? Video?
> > I would be interested in this to compare, if it
> > is currently or still available, thanks!
> > 
> > Rand
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%
40yahoogroups.com> 
> ups.com,
> > Bart  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Jim,
> > thanks for an update!
> > Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 
(44%) in 
> it, 
> > not bad score after all ! :-)
> > Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
> > Cheers
> > Bart
> > 
> > I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
> version 
> > is of
> > course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it 
was 
> said 
> > to be
> > from the late show. It might be only from the late show I 
don't 
> > really know
> > for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably 
was. TTNS 
> > turned
> > out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
> examination be
> > several who had audio versions that were for sure split as 
early 
> and 
> > late
> > this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
> > 
> > * early show
> > # late show
> > 
> > 01. Black Napkins #
> > 02. Montana #
> > 03. Easy Meat #
> > 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
> > 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
> > 06. Charlie's Enor

Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-04-25 Thread Bart
Hi Jim,
thanks for an update!
Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in it, not bad 
score after all ! :-)
Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
Cheers
Bart


I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV version is of
course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was said to be
from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't really know
for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS turned
out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close examination be
several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early and late
this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.

* early show
# late show

01. Black Napkins #
02. Montana #
03. Easy Meat #
04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
07. Fine Girl #
08. Teenage Wind #
09. Harder Than Your Husband #
10. Bamboozled By Love #
11. We're Turning Again *
12. Alien Orifice *
13. Flakes *
14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
15. You Are What You Is *
16. Mudd Club *
17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
18. Dumb All Over *
19. Heavenly Bank Account *
20. Suicide Chump *
21. Jumbo Go Away *
22. Stevie's Spanking #
23. The Torture Never Stops #
24. Strictly Genteel #
25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #

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I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV version is of
course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was said to be
from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't really know
for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS turned
out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close examination be
several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early and late
this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.

* early show
# late show

01. Black Napkins #
02. Montana #
03. Easy Meat #
04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
07. Fine Girl #
08. Teenage Wind #
09. Harder Than Your Husband #
10. Bamboozled By Love #
11. We're Turning Again *
12. Alien Orifice *
13. Flakes *
14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
15. You Are What You Is *
16. Mudd Club *
17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
18. Dumb All Over *
19. Heavenly Bank Account *
20. Suicide Chump *
21. Jumbo Go Away *
22. Stevie's Spanking #
23. The Torture Never Stops #
24. Strictly Genteel #
25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #


Jim L
-Original Message-
From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bart
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:11 AM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

Howdy Folks,
Do you remember when some time ago video shows (in VCD format) were vined in
here? It had two cd discs called The Torture Never Stops named as the Early
Showand the other two discs were MTV which was the Late show.
My dillema is that in Fact The Torture NS. despite of its subtitle (Early
Show) is mostly from the late showor am I wrong?.
If I'm right here goes my questium...does the early show exist in video
format? and does anybody have the proper early show on video cd, and would
be willing to share?

Cheers
Bart

PS: here are the details of both shows:

The music played (according to Jon Naurin's FZShows):
Early show:

You Are What You Is 
Mudd Club 
The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing 
Dumb All Over 
Heavenly Bank Account (YCDTOSA Vol. 1) 
Suicide Chump (YCDTOSA Vol. 1) 
Jumbo Go Away (YCDTOSA Vol. 1) 
Envelopes 
Drowning Witch 
What's New In Baltimore? 
Moggio 
We're Turning Again 
Alien Orifice (part on YCDTOSA Vol. 6) 
Teen-age Prostitute 
Flakes 
Broken Hearts Are For Assholes 
The Blue Light 
Tinsel Town Rebellion 
Yo' Mama 
Bobby Brown 
City Of Tiny Lites 
Strictly Genteel 
Dancin' Fool 
Whippin' Post (Allman)


Late show:

Black Napkins (BTB I: As An Am) 
Montana 
Easy Meat 
Society Pages (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
I'm A Beautiful Guy (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
Beauty Knows No Pain (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
Charlie's Enormous Mouth (YCDTOSA Vol. 3) 
Fine Girl 
Teen-age Wind 
Harder Than Your Husband 
Bamboozled By Love 
Sinister Footwear II 
Stevie's Spanking 
Cocaine Decisions 
Nig Biz 
Doreen 
Goblin Girl 
Black Page #2 (BTB I: As An Am) 
Tryin' To Grow A Chin 
Strictly Genteel (YCDTOSA Vol. 6) 
The Torture Never Stops (BTB I: As An Am) 
Joe's Garage 
Why Does It Hurt When I Pee? 
The Illinois Enema Bandit 
King Kong 
Auld Lang Syne (Burns)





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Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread Guy
Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that wants 
them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention to 
receive this and get me your mailing address.
Happy new year everybody.


--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The TTNS 
DVD that I
> transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
contains portions
> of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter version 
of one of
> the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. Most 
of what
> was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The 
Dub Room
> Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 
show and the
> TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some 
casual time
> with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room at 
Amazon.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Jim L
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
Shows Dillema
> 
>  
> 
> Forgive my questions from this newcomer
> 
> Is this the same or different? Video?
> I would be interested in this to compare, if it
> is currently or still available, thanks!
> 
> Rand
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%40yahoogroups.com> 
ups.com,
> Bart  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> thanks for an update!
> Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in 
it, 
> not bad score after all ! :-)
> Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
> Cheers
> Bart
> 
> I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
version 
> is of
> course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was 
said 
> to be
> from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
> really know
> for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS 
> turned
> out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
examination be
> several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early 
and 
> late
> this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
> 
> * early show
> # late show
> 
> 01. Black Napkins #
> 02. Montana #
> 03. Easy Meat #
> 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
> 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
> 06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
> 07. Fine Girl #
> 08. Teenage Wind #
> 09. Harder Than Your Husband #
> 10. Bamboozled By Love #
> 11. We're Turning Again *
> 12. Alien Orifice *
> 13. Flakes *
> 14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
> 15. You Are What You Is *
> 16. Mudd Club *
> 17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
> 18. Dumb All Over *
> 19. Heavenly Bank Account *
> 20. Suicide Chump *
> 21. Jumbo Go Away *
> 22. Stevie's Spanking #
> 23. The Torture Never Stops #
> 24. Strictly Genteel #
> 25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #
> 
> --- End forwarded message ---
>




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Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread John Gobetz
yes, Guy, I'd like to receive this great set & I promise to get them to the 
next viner as soon as I'm finished with them---john g in kansas

John G in Kansas (us)<< ???
  - Original Message - 
  From: Guy 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:13 PM
  Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema


  Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
  orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that wants 
  them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention to 
  receive this and get me your mailing address.
  Happy new year everybody.

  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The TTNS 
  DVD that I
  > transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
  contains portions
  > of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter version 
  of one of
  > the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. Most 
  of what
  > was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The 
  Dub Room
  > Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 
  show and the
  > TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some 
  casual time
  > with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room at 
  Amazon.
  > 
  > http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Jim L
  > 
  > _ 
  > 
  > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  > Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
  > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
  > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
  Shows Dillema
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Forgive my questions from this newcomer
  > 
  > Is this the same or different? Video?
  > I would be interested in this to compare, if it
  > is currently or still available, thanks!
  > 
  > Rand
  > 
  > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%40yahoogroups.com> 
  ups.com,
  > Bart  wrote:
  > 
  > Hi Jim,
  > thanks for an update!
  > Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in 
  it, 
  > not bad score after all ! :-)
  > Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
  > Cheers
  > Bart
  > 
  > I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
  version 
  > is of
  > course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was 
  said 
  > to be
  > from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
  > really know
  > for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS 
  > turned
  > out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
  examination be
  > several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early 
  and 
  > late
  > this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
  > 
  > * early show
  > # late show
  > 
  > 01. Black Napkins #
  > 02. Montana #
  > 03. Easy Meat #
  > 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
  > 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
  > 06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
  > 07. Fine Girl #
  > 08. Teenage Wind #
  > 09. Harder Than Your Husband #
  > 10. Bamboozled By Love #
  > 11. We're Turning Again *
  > 12. Alien Orifice *
  > 13. Flakes *
  > 14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
  > 15. You Are What You Is *
  > 16. Mudd Club *
  > 17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
  > 18. Dumb All Over *
  > 19. Heavenly Bank Account *
  > 20. Suicide Chump *
  > 21. Jumbo Go Away *
  > 22. Stevie's Spanking #
  > 23. The Torture Never Stops #
  > 24. Strictly Genteel #
  > 25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #
  > 
  > --- End forwarded message ---
  >



   


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Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread jcoonk
Hang on Kids!
A new member responded to this first, but because his posts were still 
moderated and I was away from the machine, his response didn't come in until 
after John G's.
(Apologies, Rand/plotch - that situation has been rectified.)
So, the correct order of this new sprout - thanks to Guy for monitoring this 
one as he did! - should be:
Rand in US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << John G in Kansas (us)<< ??
Hope everyone is cool with this...
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Gobetz 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:04 PM
  Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema


  yes, Guy, I'd like to receive this great set & I promise to get them to the 
next viner as soon as I'm finished with them---john g in kansas

  John G in Kansas (us)<< ???
- Original Message - 
From: Guy 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:13 PM
    Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema


Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that wants 
them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention to 
receive this and get me your mailing address.
Happy new year everybody.

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The TTNS 
DVD that I
> transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
contains portions
> of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter version 
of one of
> the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. Most 
of what
> was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The 
Dub Room
> Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 
show and the
> TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some 
casual time
> with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room at 
Amazon.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim L
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
    > Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
    > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
Shows Dillema
> 
> 
> 
> Forgive my questions from this newcomer
> 
> Is this the same or different? Video?
> I would be interested in this to compare, if it
> is currently or still available, thanks!
> 
> Rand
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%40yahoogroups.com> 
ups.com,
> Bart  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> thanks for an update!
> Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in 
it, 
> not bad score after all ! :-)
> Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
> Cheers
> Bart
> 
> I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
version 
> is of
> course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was 
said 
> to be
> from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
> really know
> for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS 
> turned
> out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
examination be
> several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early 
and 
> late
> this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
> 
> * early show
> # late show
> 
> 01. Black Napkins #
> 02. Montana #
> 03. Easy Meat #
> 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
> 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
> 06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
> 07. Fine Girl #
> 08. Teenage Wind #
> 09. Harder Than Your Husband #
> 10. Bamboozled By Love #
> 11. We're Turning Again *
> 12. Alien Orifice *
> 13. Flakes *
> 14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
> 15. You Are What You Is *
> 16. Mudd Club *
> 17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
> 18. Dumb All Over *
> 19. Heavenly Bank Account *
> 20. Suicide Chump *
> 21. Jumbo Go Away *
> 22. Stevie's Spanking #
> 23. The Torture Never Stops #
> 24. Strictly Genteel #
> 25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #
> 
> --- End forwarded message ---
>








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Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread plotch12_r777r
Forgive my questions from this newcomer

Is this the same or different? Video?
I would be interested in this to compare, if it
is currently or still available, thanks!

Rand



--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Bart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Jim,
thanks for an update!
Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in it, 
not bad score after all ! :-)
Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
Cheers
Bart


I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV version 
is of
course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was said 
to be
from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
really know
for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS 
turned
out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close examination be
several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early and 
late
this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.

* early show
# late show

01. Black Napkins #
02. Montana #
03. Easy Meat #
04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
07. Fine Girl #
08. Teenage Wind #
09. Harder Than Your Husband #
10. Bamboozled By Love #
11. We're Turning Again *
12. Alien Orifice *
13. Flakes *
14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
15. You Are What You Is *
16. Mudd Club *
17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
18. Dumb All Over *
19. Heavenly Bank Account *
20. Suicide Chump *
21. Jumbo Go Away *
22. Stevie's Spanking #
23. The Torture Never Stops #
24. Strictly Genteel #
25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #

--- End forwarded message ---




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RE: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

2006-12-30 Thread Jim L
The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The TTNS DVD that I
transferred was made from the most complete version and it contains portions
of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter version of one of
the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. Most of what
was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The Dub Room
Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 show and the
TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some casual time
with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4

 

 

Jim L

  _  

From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

 

Forgive my questions from this newcomer

Is this the same or different? Video?
I would be interested in this to compare, if it
is currently or still available, thanks!

Rand

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Zappa-List%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
Bart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Jim,
thanks for an update!
Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in it, 
not bad score after all ! :-)
Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
Cheers
Bart

I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV version 
is of
course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was said 
to be
from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
really know
for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS 
turned
out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close examination be
several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early and 
late
this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.

* early show
# late show

01. Black Napkins #
02. Montana #
03. Easy Meat #
04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
07. Fine Girl #
08. Teenage Wind #
09. Harder Than Your Husband #
10. Bamboozled By Love #
11. We're Turning Again *
12. Alien Orifice *
13. Flakes *
14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
15. You Are What You Is *
16. Mudd Club *
17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
18. Dumb All Over *
19. Heavenly Bank Account *
20. Suicide Chump *
21. Jumbo Go Away *
22. Stevie's Spanking #
23. The Torture Never Stops #
24. Strictly Genteel #
25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #

--- End forwarded message ---