Re: [zeta-dev] Survey on PHP library release modes
Hi, you can find the survey under https://spreadsheets.google.com/gform?key=tLcGit0fRn5vovDpGSpFOag I'll publish a blog entry on my site about it tomorrow morning. Please keep it in private until then and do not submit the form. Any further feedback that must be incorporated? Regards, Toby -- Tobias Schlitthttp://schlitt.infoGPG Key: 0xC462BC14 Want to hire me? Need quality assurance?http://qafoo.com eZ Components are Zeta Components now! http://bit.ly/9S7zbn
Re: [zeta-dev] Survey on PHP library release modes
Hi Tobias, On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Tobias Schlitt tob...@schlitt.info wrote: Hi, you can find the survey under https://spreadsheets.google.com/gform?key=tLcGit0fRn5vovDpGSpFOag Looks good to me :) -- Jérôme Renard http://39web.fr | http://jrenard.info | http://twitter.com/jeromerenard
Re: [zeta-dev] Survey on PHP library release modes
Hi Max, On 11/27/2010 11:57 PM, Maxime Thomas wrote: Excellent idea. We can also ask : - the job of the person answering : system admin / webmaster / not IT - the platform : Unix / Linux systems or Windows - the level of industrialization : tailor made platform (you have every things installed as you want), shared platform (the web hosting company has decided for you you what you can do or not), generic platform (you grouped some of your application and factorize software layers : using PEAR, Zend or whatever). sounds like basically a good idea to me. However, it becomes a real survey then, no more a small one. Interpreting it will become harder and I'm not sure if Twtsurvey supports this in its free variant. I think we have to segment the survey's answer because some will use it in one way and other in the other way. Will you publish the results of the survey ? Of course. I planned to make the survey public anyway, so everyone can grab the data. And of course I will blog about the results. Regards, Toby -- Tobias Schlitthttp://schlitt.infoGPG Key: 0xC462BC14 Want to hire me? Need quality assurance?http://qafoo.com eZ Components are Zeta Components now! http://bit.ly/9S7zbn
Re: [zeta-dev] Survey on PHP library release modes
Hi Tobias, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Tobias Schlitt tob...@schlitt.info wrote: Hi, I'm about to start a little online survey to check out how users in the PHP world would love to see their favorite libraries being released. I'll mainly do this out of private interest, but it might also help us to optimize our release process. Excellent idea :) Find below some questions for discussion. Whenever there is no additional info, only a single answer may be chosen. 1. Which libraries / frameworks do you use? (multiple answers possible) - ADOdb - Apache Zeta Components - Cake PHP - CodeIgniter - Doctrine 1 - Doctrine 2 - eZ Components - Horde - PEAR - Propel - Seagull - Symfony - Zend Framework - Another framework / library (free text) - I code everything on my own 2. What is your preferred way of installing PHP libraries? - PEAR - Custom installer - Manual download - OS based package management I would just add something like (apt-get, yum, rpm), just to avoid any confusion from beginner users. - Version control (SVN external, Git sub-module, etc.) - Something else (free Text) 3. Do you prefer bundles over single component installs? - I want to install each component separately - I want a bundle with all components from a library 4. How would you expect a PHP library project to do releases? - Irregularly whenever something is ready - Regularly with multiple additions bundled 5. How do you want to deploy PHP library components? - I bundle library components with my application - I deploy libraries and application separately Do you have anything to add / change? Even though I think it looks really good, would you think relevant to add a question about depedency ? For example framework needs external dependency X or Y. How do they prefer installing this dependency ? Possible options: - via PEAR - I want to get it bundled with the framework - I want to install it manually Not sure I am completely clear here. If it's not just tell me :) -- Jérôme Renard http://39web.fr | http://jrenard.info | http://twitter.com/jeromerenard
Re: [zeta-dev] Survey on PHP library release modes
2010/11/27 Jerome Renard jerome.ren...@gmail.com Hi Tobias, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Tobias Schlitt tob...@schlitt.info wrote: Hi, I'm about to start a little online survey to check out how users in the PHP world would love to see their favorite libraries being released. I'll mainly do this out of private interest, but it might also help us to optimize our release process. Excellent idea :) Find below some questions for discussion. Whenever there is no additional info, only a single answer may be chosen. 1. Which libraries / frameworks do you use? (multiple answers possible) - ADOdb - Apache Zeta Components - Cake PHP - CodeIgniter - Doctrine 1 - Doctrine 2 - eZ Components - Horde - PEAR - Propel - Seagull - Symfony - Zend Framework - Another framework / library (free text) - I code everything on my own 2. What is your preferred way of installing PHP libraries? - PEAR - Custom installer - Manual download - OS based package management I would just add something like (apt-get, yum, rpm), just to avoid any confusion from beginner users. - Version control (SVN external, Git sub-module, etc.) - Something else (free Text) 3. Do you prefer bundles over single component installs? - I want to install each component separately - I want a bundle with all components from a library 4. How would you expect a PHP library project to do releases? - Irregularly whenever something is ready - Regularly with multiple additions bundled 5. How do you want to deploy PHP library components? - I bundle library components with my application - I deploy libraries and application separately Do you have anything to add / change? Even though I think it looks really good, would you think relevant to add a question about depedency ? For example framework needs external dependency X or Y. How do they prefer installing this dependency ? Possible options: - via PEAR - I want to get it bundled with the framework - I want to install it manually Not sure I am completely clear here. If it's not just tell me :) -- Jérôme Renard http://39web.fr | http://jrenard.info | http://twitter.com/jeromerenard Excellent idea. We can also ask : - the job of the person answering : system admin / webmaster / not IT - the platform : Unix / Linux systems or Windows - the level of industrialization : tailor made platform (you have every things installed as you want), shared platform (the web hosting company has decided for you you what you can do or not), generic platform (you grouped some of your application and factorize software layers : using PEAR, Zend or whatever). I think we have to segment the survey's answer because some will use it in one way and other in the other way. Will you publish the results of the survey ? Maxime maxime.tho...@wascou.org | www.wascou.org | http://twitter.com/wascou
