Re: [zfs-discuss] dual protocal on one file system?
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote:
BTW, what is the advantage of the kernel cifs server as opposed to samba?
It seems, years ago, somebody must have been standing around and saying
There is a glaring deficiency in samba, and we need to solve it.
Complete integration with AD/NTFS from the client perspective. In
other words, the Sun CIFS server really does look like a genuine NTFS
volume shared via CIFS in terms of ACLs. Snapshots even show up as
previous versions in explorer.
I have never seen SAMBA provide more than just authentication
integration with AD.
The in kernel CIFS server is also supposed to be much faster,
although I have not tested that yet.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] dual protocal on one file system?
On Mar 16, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Edward Ned Harvey opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote: BTW, what is the advantage of the kernel cifs server as opposed to samba? It seems, years ago, somebody must have been standing around and saying There is a glaring deficiency in samba, and we need to solve it. Complete integration with AD/NTFS from the client perspective. In other words, the Sun CIFS server really does look like a genuine NTFS volume shared via CIFS in terms of ACLs. Snapshots even show up as previous versions in explorer. I have never seen SAMBA provide more than just authentication integration with AD. The in kernel CIFS server is also supposed to be much faster, although I have not tested that yet. Samba has all those features as well. It has native support for different platform ACLs (Linux/Solaris/BSD) and supports mapping POSIX perms with platform ACLs to present a quasi NT ACL that reflects the native permissions of the host. Samba even has modules for mapping NT RIDs to Nix UIDs/GIDs as well as a module that supports Previous Versions using the hosts native snapshot method. The one glaring deficiency Samba has though, in Sun's eyes not mine, is that it runs in user space, though I believe that's just the cover song for It wasn't invented here. -Ross ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS
Always show info like 'operation not supported'. Any workaround? Thanks. Fred ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
It is from ZFS ACL. Thanks. Fred From: Fred Liu Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:57 PM To: ZFS Discussions Subject: GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS Always show info like 'operation not supported'. Any workaround? Thanks. Fred ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
Use the Solaris cp (/usr/bin/cp) instead On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Fred Liu fred_...@issi.com wrote: It is from ZFS ACL. Thanks. Fred From: Fred Liu Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:57 PM To: ZFS Discussions Subject: GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS Always show info like ‘operation not supported’. Any workaround? Thanks. Fred ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
Yeah. But we are on Linux NFS client. ;-( Is it doable to build SUN cp in Linux? Where can I find the source code? Thanks. Fred -Original Message- From: jason.brian.k...@gmail.com [mailto:jason.brian.k...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:06 PM To: Fred Liu Cc: ZFS Discussions Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL Use the Solaris cp (/usr/bin/cp) instead On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Fred Liu fred_...@issi.com wrote: It is from ZFS ACL. Thanks. Fred From: Fred Liu Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:57 PM To: ZFS Discussions Subject: GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS Always show info like 'operation not supported'. Any workaround? Thanks. Fred ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
On Wed, March 16, 2011 10:08, Fred Liu wrote:
Yeah. But we are on Linux NFS client. ;-(
Is it doable to build SUN cp in Linux? Where can I find the source code?
Are you using NFSv4? Also, what version of GNU coreutils are you using
('cp' is usually part of the coreutils package)? What distribution and
version?
P.S. Please try to not top post.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
Sorry. I put post in cc.
I use NFSv3(linux 2.4 kernel) coreutils-8.9.
Thanks.
Fred
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Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
On Wed, March 16, 2011 10:08, Fred Liu wrote:
Yeah. But we are on Linux NFS client. ;-(
Is it doable to build SUN cp in Linux? Where can I find the source code?
Are you using NFSv4? Also, what version of GNU coreutils are you using
('cp' is usually part of the coreutils package)? What distribution and
version?
P.S. Please try to not top post.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS's ACL
Fred Liu fred_...@issi.com wrote: Sorry. I put post in cc. I use NFSv3(linux 2.4 kernel) coreutils-8.9. On Linux, NFSv3 does not support ACLs at all. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS
/usr/bin/cp will work - the path on OpenIndiana has gnu in first, which is a bad thing imho - Original Message - Always show info like ‘operation not supported’. Any workaround? Thanks. Fred ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -- Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] detach configured log devices?
With ZFS, Solaris 10 Update 9, is it possible to detach configured log devices from a zpool? I have a zpool with 3 F20 mirrors for the ZIL. They're coming up corrupted. I want to detach them, remake the devices and reattach them to the zpool. Thanks /jim ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] detach configured log devices?
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 09:33:58AM -0700, Jim Mauro wrote: With ZFS, Solaris 10 Update 9, is it possible to detach configured log devices from a zpool? I have a zpool with 3 F20 mirrors for the ZIL. They're coming up corrupted. I want to detach them, remake the devices and reattach them to the zpool. Yup, as long as your zpool has been updated to the correct version. Ray ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] detach configured log devices?
+-- | On 2011-03-16 12:33:58, Jim Mauro wrote: | | With ZFS, Solaris 10 Update 9, is it possible to | detach configured log devices from a zpool? | | I have a zpool with 3 F20 mirrors for the ZIL. They're | coming up corrupted. I want to detach them, remake | the devices and reattach them to the zpool. Yes, you can, using zpool remove. If they're faulted and you can't import the pool, use import -m. Cheers. -- bdha cyberpunk is dead. long live cyberpunk. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] detach configured log devices?
Hi Jim, Yes, the Solaris 10 9/10 release supports log device removal. http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gazgw/index.html See Example 4-3 in this section. The ability to import a pool with a missing log device is not yet available in the Solaris 10 release. Thanks, Cindy On 03/16/11 10:33, Jim Mauro wrote: With ZFS, Solaris 10 Update 9, is it possible to detach configured log devices from a zpool? I have a zpool with 3 F20 mirrors for the ZIL. They're coming up corrupted. I want to detach them, remake the devices and reattach them to the zpool. Thanks /jim ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS
I thought this explained it well. http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=939 'NFSv3, ACL's and ZFS' is the relevant part. I've told my customers that run into this to use the noacl mount option. - Cameron Hanover chano...@umich.edu Fill with mingled cream and amber, I will drain that glass again. Such hilarious visions clamber Through the chamber of my brain — Quaintest thoughts — queerest fancies Come to life and fade away; What care I how time advances? I am drinking ale today. —-Edgar Allan Poe On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Fred Liu wrote: Always show info like ‘operation not supported’. Any workaround? Thanks. Fred ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Invisible snapshot/clone
I am in the process of upgrading from FreeBSD-8.1 with ZFSv14 to FreeBSD-8.2 with ZFSv15 and, following a crash, have run into a problem with ZFS claiming a snapshot or clone exists that I can't find. I was transferring a set of snapshots from my primary desktop to a backup host (both ZFSv14) using: zfs send -I zroot/home@20110210bu -R zroot/home@20110317bu | \ ssh backup_host zfs recv -vd zroot and whilst that was in progress, I did a 'df -k' on backup_host. At this point, both the df and the zfs recv wedged unkillably. zfs list showed that the last snapshot on the destination system was zroot/home@20110309, so I did a rollback to it (which reported no error) and ran: zfs send -I zroot/home@20110309 -R zroot/home@20110317bu | \ ssh backup_host zfs recv -vd zroot which reported: receiving incremental stream of zroot/home@20110310 into zroot/home@20110310 cannot restore to zroot/home@20110310: destination already exists warning: cannot send 'zroot/home@20110310': Broken pipe I cannot find anything by that name (or any snapshots later than zroot/home@20110309 or any clones) and cannot destroy zroot/home@20110309: # zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 # zfs destroy zroot/home@20110309 cannot destroy 'zroot/home@20110309': dataset already exists # zfs destroy -r zroot/home@20110309 cannot destroy 'zroot/home@20110309': snapshot is cloned no snapshots destroyed # zfs destroy -R zroot/home@20110309 cannot destroy 'zroot/home@20110309': snapshot is cloned no snapshots destroyed # zfs destroy -frR zroot/home@20110309 cannot destroy 'zroot/home@20110309': snapshot is cloned no snapshots destroyed # zfs list -t all |grep home@20110310 # zfs get all | grep origin # zfs get all | grep home@20110310 # I have tried rebooting, upgrading the pool from v14 to v15 and export/import without success. Does anyone have any other suggestions? zpool history -i looks like: 2011-03-17.08:02:57 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110210bu 2011-03-17.08:02:59 zfs recv -vd zroot 2011-03-17.08:02:59 [internal replay_inc_sync txg:872817696] dataset = 973 2011-03-17.08:02:59 [internal reservation set txg:872817697] 0 dataset = 469 ... 2011-03-17.08:09:41 [internal snapshot txg:872817974] dataset = 1203 2011-03-17.08:09:42 [internal replay_inc_sync txg:872817975] dataset = 1208 2011-03-17.08:09:42 [internal reservation set txg:872817976] 0 dataset = 469 2011-03-17.08:09:42 [internal property set txg:872817977] compression=10 dataset = 469 2011-03-17.08:09:42 [internal property set txg:872817977] mountpoint=/home dataset = 469 2011-03-17.08:09:50 [internal destroy_begin_sync txg:872817980] dataset = 1208 2011-03-17.08:09:51 [internal destroy txg:872817983] dataset = 1208 2011-03-17.08:09:51 [internal reservation set txg:872817983] 0 dataset = 0 2011-03-17.08:09:51 [internal snapshot txg:872817984] dataset = 1212 2011-03-17.08:09:52 [internal replay_inc_sync txg:872817985] dataset = 1217 2011-03-17.08:09:52 [internal reservation set txg:872817986] 0 dataset = 469 2011-03-17.08:09:52 [internal property set txg:872817987] compression=10 dataset = 469 2011-03-17.08:09:52 [internal property set txg:872817987] mountpoint=/home dataset = 469 system wedged here 2011-03-17.08:35:01 [internal rollback txg:872818038] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.08:35:01 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 2011-03-17.08:35:14 zfs recv -vd zroot 2011-03-17.08:36:37 [internal pool scrub txg:872818059] func=1 mintxg=0 maxtxg=872818059 2011-03-17.08:36:41 zpool scrub zroot 2011-03-17.09:17:27 [internal pool scrub done txg:872818513] complete=1 2011-03-17.09:19:44 [internal rollback txg:872818542] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.09:19:45 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 2011-03-17.10:51:38 [internal rollback txg:872819603] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.10:51:39 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 2011-03-17.10:54:11 zpool upgrade zroot 2011-03-17.10:59:12 [internal rollback txg:872819688] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.10:59:12 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 2011-03-17.11:16:38 [internal rollback txg:872819895] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.11:16:39 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 2011-03-17.11:16:54 zpool export zroot 2011-03-17.11:17:31 zpool import zroot 2011-03-17.11:30:13 [internal rollback txg:872819992] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.11:30:13 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 2011-03-17.12:01:02 zfs recv -vd zroot 2011-03-17.12:03:57 [internal rollback txg:872820399] dataset = 469 2011-03-17.12:03:57 zfs rollback zroot/home@20110309 -- Peter Jeremy pgpQBYUCWUiu1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Invisible snapshot/clone
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Jeremy I am in the process of upgrading from FreeBSD-8.1 with ZFSv14 to FreeBSD-8.2 with ZFSv15 and, following a crash, have run into a problem with ZFS claiming a snapshot or clone exists that I can't find. This was a bug that was fixed somewhere between zpool v15 and v22. If there is an incremental send in progress, and the system crashes for some reason, then you have this invisible clone laying around somewhere... It prevents any further incrementals from succeeding... It hogs disk space ... It's difficult to find and destroy unless you know what you're looking for. To find it, run zdb -d, and search for something with a % Something like: zdb -d tank | grep % And then you can zfs destroy the thing. P.S. Every time I did this, the zfs destroy would complete with some sort of error message, but then if you searched for the thing again, you would see that it actually completed successfully. P.S. If your primary goal is to use ZFS, you would probably be better switching to nexenta or openindiana or solaris 11 express, because they all support ZFS much better than freebsd. If instead, your primary goal is to do something free-bsd-ish, and it's just coincidence that an old version of ZFS happens to be the best filesystem available in freebsd, so be it. Freebsd is good in its own ways... Even an old version of ZFS is better than EXT3 or UFS. ;-) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] detach configured log devices
Jim, You should state your zfs version. Web... Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:33:58 -0400 From: Jim Mauro james.ma...@oracle.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [zfs-discuss] detach configured log devices? Message-ID: 2120fb95-809c-4f13-928b-898a7b937...@oracle.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii With ZFS, Solaris 10 Update 9, is it possible to detach configured log devices from a zpool? I have a zpool with 3 F20 mirrors for the ZIL. They're coming up corrupted. I want to detach them, remake the devices and reattach them to the zpool. Thanks /jim ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
