Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X clients with ZFS server

2010-09-16 Thread Mike Mackovitch
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 08:15:53AM -0700, Rich Teer wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Erik Ableson wrote:
 
  OpenSolaris snv129
 
 Hmm, SXCE snv_130 here.  Did you have to do any server-side tuning
 (e.g., allowing remote connections), or did it just work out of the
 box?  I know that Sendmail needs some gentle persuasion to accept
 remote connections out of the box; perhaps lockd is the same?

So, you've been having this problem since April.
Did you ever try getting packet traces to see where the problem is?

As I previously stated, if you want, you can forward the traces to me to
look at.  Let me know if you need the directions on how to capture them.

--macko
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X clients with ZFS server

2010-09-15 Thread Mike Mackovitch
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:08:20PM -0700, Nabil wrote:
 any resolution to this issue?  I'm experiencing the same annoying
 lockd thing with mac osx 10.6 clients.  I am at pool ver 14, fs ver
 3.  Would somehow going back to the earlier 8/2 setup make things
 better?

As noted in the earlier thread, the annoying lockd thing is not a
ZFS issue, but rather a networking issue.

FWIW, I never saw a resolution.  But the suggestions for how to debug
situations like this still stand:

 So, it looks like you need to investigate why the client isn't
 getting responses from the server's lockd.

 This is usually caused by a firewall or NAT getting in the way.

 I would also check /var/log/system.log and /var/log/kernel.log on the Mac to
 see if any other useful messages are getting logged.

 Then I'd grab packet traces with wireshark/tcpdump/snoop *simultaneously* on
 the client and the server, reproduce the problem, and then determine which
 packets are being sent and which packets are being received.

HTH
--macko
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X clients with ZFS server

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Mackovitch
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:40:37PM -0700, Rich Teer wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Tomas Ă–gren wrote:
 
  Copying via terminal (and cp) works.
 
 Interesting: if I copy a file *which has no extended attributes* using cp in
 a terminal, it works fine.  If I try to cp a file that has EA (to the same
 destination), it hangs.  But I get this error message after a few seconds:
 
 cp file_without_EA /net/zen/export/home/rich
 cp file_with_EA /net/zen/export/home/rich
 nfs server zen:/export/home: lockd not responding

So, it looks like you need to investigate why the client isn't
getting responses from the server's lockd.

This is usually caused by a firewall or NAT getting in the way.

HTH
--macko
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X clients with ZFS server

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Mackovitch
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 01:54:26PM -0700, Rich Teer wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Mike Mackovitch wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
  So, it looks like you need to investigate why the client isn't
  getting responses from the server's lockd.
  
  This is usually caused by a firewall or NAT getting in the way.
 
 Great idea--I was indeed connected to my network using the AirPort interface,
 thorugh a Wifi router.  So as an experiment, I tried using a hard-wired,
 manually set up Ethernet connection.  Same result: no dice.  :-(
 
 I checked the firewall settings on my laptop, and the firewall is turned off.
 
 Do you have any other ideas?  It'd be really nice to get this working!

I would also check /var/log/system.log and /var/log/kernel.log on the Mac to
see if any other useful messages are getting logged.

Then I'd grab packet traces with wireshark/tcpdump/snoop *simultaneously* on
the client and the server, reproduce the problem, and then determine which
packets are being sent and which packets are being received.

HTH
--macko
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Filesystem for each home dir - 10,000 users?

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Mackovitch
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 06:27:01PM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:58:09PM -0700, eric kustarz wrote:
  
   clients do not.  Without per-filesystem mounts, 'df' on the client
   will not report correct data though.
  
   I expect that mirror mounts will be coming Linux's way too.
  
  The should already have them:
  http://blogs.sun.com/erickustarz/en_US/entry/linux_support_for_mirror_mounts
 
 Where does that leave those of us who need to deal with OSX clients?  Does 
 apple
 have any plans to get in on this?

Apple plans on supporting NFSv4... including mirror mounts (barring any
unseen, insurmountable hurdles).

HTH
--macko
Not speaking officially for Apple, but just as an engineer who works
on this stuff.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Filesystem for each home dir - 10,000 users?

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Mackovitch
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 03:43:29PM -0700, eric kustarz wrote:
 
 On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:58:09PM -0700, eric kustarz wrote:
 
  clients do not.  Without per-filesystem mounts, 'df' on the client
  will not report correct data though.
 
  I expect that mirror mounts will be coming Linux's way too.
 
  The should already have them:
  http://blogs.sun.com/erickustarz/en_US/entry/linux_support_for_mirror_mounts
 
  Where does that leave those of us who need to deal with OSX  
  clients?  Does apple
  have any plans to get in on this?
 
 They need to implement NFSv4 in general first :)

Technically, Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard has some basic NFSv4.0 support in it.
But just enough to make it look like it passes all the Connectathon tests.
Not enough to warrant use by anyone but the terminally curious (or masochistic).
This is mentioned briefly in the mount_nfs(8) man page.

It would be reasonable to expect that future MacOSX releases will include
increasing levels of functionality and that NFSv4 will eventually be made
the default NFS version.

 But you'd have to  
 ask them on their lists what the status of that is... i know i would  
 like it...

Or get lucky and happen to have one of their engineers catch the question
on this list and reply...  ;-)

--macko
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