Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-09-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> ZFS Administration Guide (in PDF format) does not
> look very professional (at least on
> Evince/OS2008.05).  Please see attached screenshot.

I have cleaned up the original pdf file.  Please see:

http://tinyurl.com/zfs-pdf

The invisible parts (original) are now visible (corrected).

It is not too difficult a job.

Just wish that we can be more thoughtful.

The only people affected are us hard-core OpenSolaris users.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>
> Perhaps some considerations should be given to create those 
> documents with OpenOffice.org or StarOffice/StarSuite.

I would encourage Sun to continue using the system which has already 
been working for so many years so that it can focus on creating more 
good documentation with less cut-and-paste and more clarity.

The complaints seem to be about flaws in the viewer programs rather 
than in the actual PDF.

Bob
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GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> For the record, the source of the ZFS Admin Guide is
> created with
> a SGML editor that is not Framemaker. I agree that
> the evince PDF
> display problems are with the font changes only.
> 
> Cindy

Perhaps some considerations should be given to create those documents with 
OpenOffice.org or StarOffice/StarSuite.

Starting version 9, StarOffice/StarSuite will have the ability to produce pdf 
files in pdf/odf hybrid format.  This is another strong ncentive to use 
StarOffice/StarSuite.  But most importantly, thanks to Sun's unwavering 
support, these office suites have become some of the most powerful tools for 
generating complicated documents. :-)
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Elling
Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote:
>> Welcome to font hell :-(.  For many years, Sun
>> documentation was written
>> in the Palatino font, which is (or was?) not freely
>> available. I believe 
>> 
>
> Umm No. PDF supports font embedding. This is how so many PDFs are out there 
> (company brochures, fliers etc) with commercial fonts and they look just 
> right. I checked one of the PDFs and it does have all the fonts (including 
> platino and helvetica) embedded as Type 1 font.
>   

Yes, but the current font woes are in the Xserver fonts.  See the
various discussions on indiana-discuss and desktop-discuss.
 -- richard

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
For the record, the source of the ZFS Admin Guide is created with
a SGML editor that is not Framemaker. I agree that the evince PDF
display problems are with the font changes only.

Cindy
Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote:
>>Welcome to font hell :-(.  For many years, Sun
>>documentation was written
>>in the Palatino font, which is (or was?) not freely
>>available. I believe 
> 
> 
> Umm No. PDF supports font embedding. This is how so many PDFs are out there 
> (company brochures, fliers etc) with commercial fonts and they look just 
> right. I checked one of the PDFs and it does have all the fonts (including 
> platino and helvetica) embedded as Type 1 font.
> 
>  It may have something to do with Type1 font or something else that 
> FrameMaker is generating that evince is choking on because the PDFs look fine 
> with Adobe Reader 8 (under wine-1.1), Foxit Reader (wine 1.1) & xpdf (3.02 
> from blastwave). Even ghostscript renders them ok.
>  
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
> Welcome to font hell :-(.  For many years, Sun
> documentation was written
> in the Palatino font, which is (or was?) not freely
> available. I believe 

Umm No. PDF supports font embedding. This is how so many PDFs are out there 
(company brochures, fliers etc) with commercial fonts and they look just right. 
I checked one of the PDFs and it does have all the fonts (including platino and 
helvetica) embedded as Type 1 font.

 It may have something to do with Type1 font or something else that FrameMaker 
is generating that evince is choking on because the PDFs look fine with Adobe 
Reader 8 (under wine-1.1), Foxit Reader (wine 1.1) & xpdf (3.02 from 
blastwave). Even ghostscript renders them ok.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-20 Thread Richard Elling
Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote:
> Evince likes to fuzz a number of PDFs. I too can't seem to nail the problems, 
> but it seems that a number of PDFs from SUN have this problem (very wrong 
> character spacing), and they all have been generated using FrameMaker. PDFs 
> generated using TeX/LaTeX are *usually* ok.
>   

Welcome to font hell :-(.  For many years, Sun documentation was written
in the Palatino font, which is (or was?) not freely available. I believe 
you
will find that the latest font headaches are due to transitions of 
fonts, not
the applications that use them.
 -- richard

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-20 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
Evince likes to fuzz a number of PDFs. I too can't seem to nail the problems, 
but it seems that a number of PDFs from SUN have this problem (very wrong 
character spacing), and they all have been generated using FrameMaker. PDFs 
generated using TeX/LaTeX are *usually* ok.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> ZFS Administration Guide (in PDF format) does not
> look very professional (at least on
> Evince/OS2008.05).  Please see attached screenshot.

Looks like this is a display problem.  It seems that certain fonts (monospace 
fonts) were not displayed by the version of Evince included in OS 2008.05.  
Please ignore this thread.  I am re-posting it in the Indiana forum.
 
 
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