Re: [zfs-discuss] Info on OLTP Perf

2006-09-25 Thread przemolicc
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:37:23AM -0700, Neelakanth Nadgir wrote:
> We did an experiment where we placed the logs on UFS+DIO and the
> rest on ZFS. This was a write heavy benchmark. We did not see
> much gain in performance by doing that (around 5%). I suspect
> you would be willing to trade 5% for all the benefits of ZFS.
> Moreover this penalty is for the current version, ZFS can/will
> get much faster.
> -neel

Neel,

I thought of the other solution: the logs on ZFS and rest on UFS+DIO.
I suspect that writes on ZFS are faster then on UFS+DIO (in OLTP
environment).

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Info on OLTP Perf

2006-09-25 Thread Neelakanth Nadgir

We did an experiment where we placed the logs on UFS+DIO and the
rest on ZFS. This was a write heavy benchmark. We did not see
much gain in performance by doing that (around 5%). I suspect
you would be willing to trade 5% for all the benefits of ZFS.
Moreover this penalty is for the current version, ZFS can/will
get much faster.
-neel


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On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:38:05PM +0200, Roch wrote:


http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/zfs_and_oltp


After reading this page and taking into consideration my (not so big) knowledge
of ZFS it came to my mind that putting e.g. Oracle on both UFS+DIO _and_
ZFS would be the best solution _at_the_moment_. E.g redo logs and undo
tablespace on ZFS (because its COW nature so that all writes to these
files will go with full speed) and all the rest database files on UFS+DIO.

What do you think ?

przemol
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Info on OLTP Perf

2006-09-25 Thread Roch

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:38:05PM +0200, Roch wrote:
 > > 
 > > 
 > >http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/zfs_and_oltp
 > 
 > After reading this page and taking into consideration my (not so big) 
 > knowledge
 > of ZFS it came to my mind that putting e.g. Oracle on both UFS+DIO _and_
 > ZFS would be the best solution _at_the_moment_. E.g redo logs and undo
 > tablespace on ZFS (because its COW nature so that all writes to these
 > files will go with full speed) and all the rest database files on UFS+DIO.
 > 
 > What do you think ?
 > 

You may  gain some perf   _today_  by using  UFS/DIO at  the
expense of integrity/availability/ease of use. That would be
the tradeoff. It's also given that mileage will vary.

-r


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Info on OLTP Perf

2006-09-25 Thread przemolicc
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:38:05PM +0200, Roch wrote:
> 
> 
>   http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/zfs_and_oltp

After reading this page and taking into consideration my (not so big) knowledge
of ZFS it came to my mind that putting e.g. Oracle on both UFS+DIO _and_
ZFS would be the best solution _at_the_moment_. E.g redo logs and undo
tablespace on ZFS (because its COW nature so that all writes to these
files will go with full speed) and all the rest database files on UFS+DIO.

What do you think ?

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[zfs-discuss] Info on OLTP Perf

2006-09-22 Thread Roch


http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/zfs_and_oltp


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