Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The exception to the "rule" of multiple 12v output sections is PC >> Power & Cooling - who claim that there is no technical advantage to >> having multiple 12v outputs (and this "feature" is only a marketing >> gimmick). But now that they have merged with OCZ - who always claimed >> that there are advantages to multiple 12v output sections ... I'm not >> sure where they stand today. In any case the PC Power & Cooling PSUs >> are premium, reliable, high performance parts in my personal >> experience - altough their "Silencer" products are far from silent in >> my experience! :) Well that depends, you can build a power supply with multiple isolated 12V rails. I would hope this is what they mean when they specify multiple 12V outputs with equal/different current/load ratings. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The exception to the "rule" of multiple 12v output sections is PC > Power & Cooling - who claim that there is no technical advantage to > having multiple 12v outputs (and this "feature" is only a marketing > gimmick). But now that they have merged with OCZ - who always claimed > that there are advantages to multiple 12v output sections ... I'm not > sure where they stand today. In any case the PC Power & Cooling PSUs > are premium, reliable, high performance parts in my personal > experience - altough their "Silencer" products are far from silent in > my experience! :) it's good to have that vote of confidence as i picked that brand :) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 23:51, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most 3.5" drives want about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. >>> I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. >> >> See >> http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/desktop/Barracuda%207200.11/100452348b.pdf >> >> Seagate claims 2.8A @ 12V per drive at startup. That's 33.6W. The >> operating draw is way lower--the last time I measured my E2160 + 10 >> disk system drew around 130W while idling and not a whole lot more >> while active. > 2.8A at startup sounds about right. I still like my 20W-per-drive > rule of thumb for home systems; well-built power supplies can > momentarily deliver more than design power to account for spinup, and > in the event of a failure one can RMA or replace the dead supply with > little impact. But my original point was that 16 times 30 is 480, not > 780; 300 extra watts for a system is something I'd expect to see from > a 16-core machine or something. There's some advantage to allowing > overhead in one's power supply choice (capacitors aging), but 40% is a > bit much. Your rule of thumb is probably good logic - although one could debate the number forever. Your 20W number seems reasonable to me - and +1 that a premium PSU can tolerate some abuse for the 30 Seconds or so required during drive spinup. > For work use, of course, design for redundancy and uptime. But for > most things I'd use a home server for, spending that kind of money is > a waste. Money one would spend on a gargantuan power supply to sit in Another issue here is that the PSU will only be efficient over a certain, limited, range of power output. If you install a monster PSU (say 1000Watts) and your average system power consumption is 300 Watts - then the PSU may not be operating in the power range where its efficiency is optimum. This inefficiency will be reflected in your power bill. > your basement is generally better invested in an off-site backup, even > if all the difference buys is a DVD that you leave at Grandma's house > when you visit. I detect some technical confusion reading this thread. A lot of posters are talking watts (power supply watts), one poster is talking watts from the wall (plug) and no-one is quoting power consumption for the CPU - which can vary greatly depending on the CPU model # and what the CPU is doing at any given time. The important point is to look at power consumed in *amps* from the 12volt section of the power supply. The CPU(s) are pulling most of its power from the 12v section of the PSU. So, total up the the required amperage from the 12v section of the PSU (including everything that draws power from it[1]) and then carefully examine the available power from the 12v output(s) of the PSU. Ignore total power supply wattage. One potential issue is that some PSU manufacturers don't publish the power (in amps) available from the 12v section of the power supply - except on many of the top-end, premium PSUs where there will probably be 2 separate 12 outputs and the data is generally available - and then you'll have the challenge of balancing the load across both 12v sections. The exception to the "rule" of multiple 12v output sections is PC Power & Cooling - who claim that there is no technical advantage to having multiple 12v outputs (and this "feature" is only a marketing gimmick). But now that they have merged with OCZ - who always claimed that there are advantages to multiple 12v output sections ... I'm not sure where they stand today. In any case the PC Power & Cooling PSUs are premium, reliable, high performance parts in my personal experience - altough their "Silencer" products are far from silent in my experience! :) In the "old" days of (parallel) SCSI, you had staggered drive startup available (based on the drives SCSI ID). In that respect we seem to have taken a step backwards with SATA drive technology. [1] 12v power is used for the CPU, fans, graphics cards, controllers, disk drives etc. > Will > > PS: None of this stops me from wanting the work-grade stuff at home... +1 Regards, -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 23:51, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Most 3.5" drives want >>> about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. >> I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. > > See > http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/desktop/Barracuda%207200.11/100452348b.pdf > > Seagate claims 2.8A @ 12V per drive at startup. That's 33.6W. The > operating draw is way lower--the last time I measured my E2160 + 10 > disk system drew around 130W while idling and not a whole lot more > while active. 2.8A at startup sounds about right. I still like my 20W-per-drive rule of thumb for home systems; well-built power supplies can momentarily deliver more than design power to account for spinup, and in the event of a failure one can RMA or replace the dead supply with little impact. But my original point was that 16 times 30 is 480, not 780; 300 extra watts for a system is something I'd expect to see from a 16-core machine or something. There's some advantage to allowing overhead in one's power supply choice (capacitors aging), but 40% is a bit much. For work use, of course, design for redundancy and uptime. But for most things I'd use a home server for, spending that kind of money is a waste. Money one would spend on a gargantuan power supply to sit in your basement is generally better invested in an off-site backup, even if all the difference buys is a DVD that you leave at Grandma's house when you visit. Will PS: None of this stops me from wanting the work-grade stuff at home... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:30, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks >> up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's >> borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI >> cards has pushed mine over the edge before. > Power supply stress survival is more a function of dollars paid (or > pounds weighed, if you like) than of any of the numbers on the box. > I've done 14 drives on a 550W power supply (with no problems). > Reputable places to search for power supply reviews are [1] and [2] > (and others---but those are a good start). > >> Most 3.5" drives want >> about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. > I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. See http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/desktop/Barracuda%207200.11/100452348b.pdf Seagate claims 2.8A @ 12V per drive at startup. That's 33.6W. The operating draw is way lower--the last time I measured my E2160 + 10 disk system drew around 130W while idling and not a whole lot more while active. Scott ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:30, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks > up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's > borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI > cards has pushed mine over the edge before. Power supply stress survival is more a function of dollars paid (or pounds weighed, if you like) than of any of the numbers on the box. I've done 14 drives on a 550W power supply (with no problems). Reputable places to search for power supply reviews are [1] and [2] (and others---but those are a good start). > Most 3.5" drives want > about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. My Q6600 with 4 gigs of memory, a couple addon cards, 4 3.5 disks, 2 2.5 disks, and some fans and so forth draws a measly 140 watts with full CPU load and idle disks. A "normal" home file server system (i.e., doesn't have FBDIMMs) probably doesn't draw more than 150 not counting drives. 30W for a drive at spinup is a conservative (and therefore wise-to-plan-for) estimate---but in a pinch, real draw is usually more on the order of 20W. So the 750W power supply I have is probably okay for 30 disks, for ten minutes, if the alternative is certain death... but a more reasonable maximum load is probably 18 or so disks. Will [1]: http://www.hardocp.com/reviews.html?cat=NDUsUFNVIC8gUG93ZXIgU3VwcGxpZXMsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q= [2]: http://jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Review_Cat&recatnum=13 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
Yeah for this plan I needed with 8 onboard SATA or another 8 port SATA controller, so I opted just to get two of the PCI-X ones. The Supermicro 5-in-3's don't have a fan alarm so you could remove it or find a quieter fan. I think most of them have quite noisy fans (the main goal for this besides large amounts of storage was acoustics) On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The onboard SATA ports work on the PDSME+. One of these days I'm > going to pick up a couple of Supermicro's 5-in-3 enclosures for mine: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121405 > > > Scott ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
I was told here: http://discuss.extremetech.com/forums/permalink/1004422973/1004422973/ShowThread.aspx#1004422973 That I'd need at least 40amps - and this PSU has a 12V rail with 60amps... On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks > up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's > borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI > cards has pushed mine over the edge before. Most 3.5" drives want > about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. > > I wish delayed spinup wasn't such a pain with SATA. > > > Scott > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The onboard SATA ports work on the PDSME+. One of these days I'm >> going to pick up a couple of Supermicro's 5-in-3 enclosures for mine: >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121405 >> >> >> Scott >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:26 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Good news - I got snv_98 up without a hitch. So far, so good. >>> >>> Onboard video works great (well, console. Haven't used X11) >>> Top NIC works great (e1000g) - haven't tried the second NIC >>> Did not try the onboard SATA >>> Two Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 PCI-X's working well >>> >>> Here's the specifics: >>> - LIAN LI PC-V2110B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case >>> - PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI >>> Certified (Dual 8800 -GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified >>> Active PFC Power Supply >>> - SUPERMICRO MBD-PDSME+-O LGA 775 Intel 3010 ATX Server Motherboard >>> - 2x Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC >>> Unbuffered Server Memory Model KVR667D2E5/2GI >>> - 2x SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card >>> - 2x Seagate 160 gig for mirrored boot >>> - 7x Seagate 1.5TB for data (second batch of 7 when I fill this batch) >>> >>> Just about all of it thanks to Newegg. I will need to pick up some >>> 4-in-3 enclosures and a better CPU heatsink/fan - this is supposed to >>> be quiet but it has an annoying hum. Weird. Anyway, so far so good. >>> Hopefully the power supply can handle all 16 disks too... >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's plenty of 8 port, either full 8 or 6+2 combinations etc. Anyway I went with a Supermicro PDSME+ which appears to work well according to the HCL, and bought two of the AOC-SAT2-MV8's and will just use those. It's actually being delivered today... On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joe S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port > motherboards. > > As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the > Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that > supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the > Sun Ultra 24 workstation > (http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra24/index.xml). > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I posted a thread here... >> http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 >> >> I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick >> working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can >> get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) >> >> I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit >> port. That's about it. >> >> I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the >> major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible >> chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of >> these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not >> have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... >> ___ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >> > >>> ___ >>> zfs-discuss mailing list >>> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>> >> > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI cards has pushed mine over the edge before. Most 3.5" drives want about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. I wish delayed spinup wasn't such a pain with SATA. Scott On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The onboard SATA ports work on the PDSME+. One of these days I'm > going to pick up a couple of Supermicro's 5-in-3 enclosures for mine: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121405 > > > Scott > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:26 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Good news - I got snv_98 up without a hitch. So far, so good. >> >> Onboard video works great (well, console. Haven't used X11) >> Top NIC works great (e1000g) - haven't tried the second NIC >> Did not try the onboard SATA >> Two Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 PCI-X's working well >> >> Here's the specifics: >> - LIAN LI PC-V2110B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case >> - PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI >> Certified (Dual 8800 -GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified >> Active PFC Power Supply >> - SUPERMICRO MBD-PDSME+-O LGA 775 Intel 3010 ATX Server Motherboard >> - 2x Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC >> Unbuffered Server Memory Model KVR667D2E5/2GI >> - 2x SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card >> - 2x Seagate 160 gig for mirrored boot >> - 7x Seagate 1.5TB for data (second batch of 7 when I fill this batch) >> >> Just about all of it thanks to Newegg. I will need to pick up some >> 4-in-3 enclosures and a better CPU heatsink/fan - this is supposed to >> be quiet but it has an annoying hum. Weird. Anyway, so far so good. >> Hopefully the power supply can handle all 16 disks too... >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> There's plenty of 8 port, either full 8 or 6+2 combinations etc. >>> >>> Anyway I went with a Supermicro PDSME+ which appears to work well >>> according to the HCL, and bought two of the AOC-SAT2-MV8's and will >>> just use those. It's actually being delivered today... >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joe S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port motherboards. As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the Sun Ultra 24 workstation (http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra24/index.xml). On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted a thread here... > http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 > > I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick > working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can > get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) > > I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit > port. That's about it. > > I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the > major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible > chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of > these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not > have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > >>> >> ___ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >> > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
The onboard SATA ports work on the PDSME+. One of these days I'm going to pick up a couple of Supermicro's 5-in-3 enclosures for mine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121405 Scott On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:26 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good news - I got snv_98 up without a hitch. So far, so good. > > Onboard video works great (well, console. Haven't used X11) > Top NIC works great (e1000g) - haven't tried the second NIC > Did not try the onboard SATA > Two Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 PCI-X's working well > > Here's the specifics: > - LIAN LI PC-V2110B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case > - PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI > Certified (Dual 8800 -GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified > Active PFC Power Supply > - SUPERMICRO MBD-PDSME+-O LGA 775 Intel 3010 ATX Server Motherboard > - 2x Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC > Unbuffered Server Memory Model KVR667D2E5/2GI > - 2x SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card > - 2x Seagate 160 gig for mirrored boot > - 7x Seagate 1.5TB for data (second batch of 7 when I fill this batch) > > Just about all of it thanks to Newegg. I will need to pick up some > 4-in-3 enclosures and a better CPU heatsink/fan - this is supposed to > be quiet but it has an annoying hum. Weird. Anyway, so far so good. > Hopefully the power supply can handle all 16 disks too... > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There's plenty of 8 port, either full 8 or 6+2 combinations etc. >> >> Anyway I went with a Supermicro PDSME+ which appears to work well >> according to the HCL, and bought two of the AOC-SAT2-MV8's and will >> just use those. It's actually being delivered today... >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joe S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port >>> motherboards. >>> >>> As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the >>> Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that >>> supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the >>> Sun Ultra 24 workstation >>> (http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra24/index.xml). >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I posted a thread here... http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit port. That's about it. I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>> >> > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
Good news - I got snv_98 up without a hitch. So far, so good. Onboard video works great (well, console. Haven't used X11) Top NIC works great (e1000g) - haven't tried the second NIC Did not try the onboard SATA Two Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 PCI-X's working well Here's the specifics: - LIAN LI PC-V2110B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 -GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - SUPERMICRO MBD-PDSME+-O LGA 775 Intel 3010 ATX Server Motherboard - 2x Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Unbuffered Server Memory Model KVR667D2E5/2GI - 2x SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card - 2x Seagate 160 gig for mirrored boot - 7x Seagate 1.5TB for data (second batch of 7 when I fill this batch) Just about all of it thanks to Newegg. I will need to pick up some 4-in-3 enclosures and a better CPU heatsink/fan - this is supposed to be quiet but it has an annoying hum. Weird. Anyway, so far so good. Hopefully the power supply can handle all 16 disks too... On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's plenty of 8 port, either full 8 or 6+2 combinations etc. > > Anyway I went with a Supermicro PDSME+ which appears to work well > according to the HCL, and bought two of the AOC-SAT2-MV8's and will > just use those. It's actually being delivered today... > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joe S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port >> motherboards. >> >> As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the >> Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that >> supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the >> Sun Ultra 24 workstation >> (http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra24/index.xml). >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I posted a thread here... >>> http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 >>> >>> I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick >>> working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can >>> get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) >>> >>> I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit >>> port. That's about it. >>> >>> I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the >>> major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible >>> chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of >>> these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not >>> have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... >>> ___ >>> zfs-discuss mailing list >>> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>> >> > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
There's plenty of 8 port, either full 8 or 6+2 combinations etc. Anyway I went with a Supermicro PDSME+ which appears to work well according to the HCL, and bought two of the AOC-SAT2-MV8's and will just use those. It's actually being delivered today... On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joe S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port > motherboards. > > As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the > Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that > supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the > Sun Ultra 24 workstation > (http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra24/index.xml). > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I posted a thread here... >> http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 >> >> I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick >> working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can >> get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) >> >> I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit >> port. That's about it. >> >> I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the >> major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible >> chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of >> these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not >> have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... >> ___ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >> > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port motherboards. As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the Sun Ultra 24 workstation (http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra24/index.xml). On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted a thread here... > http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 > > I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick > working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can > get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) > > I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit > port. That's about it. > > I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the > major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible > chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of > these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not > have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
Yeah, I was scoping an Intel board - only one I could find had 8 SATA. However, couldn't find much info on support for those either. For this machine I need 16 ports and want 8 onboard SATA. It shouldn't be difficult, but I don't want to order something, find out it's not compatible, and have to return it online... On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:33 AM, gm_sjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/6 mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick >> working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can >> get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) >> >> I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit >> port. That's about it. > > I am using an Intel S3210SH server board, which has two onboard Intel > gigabit interfaces and 6 onboard SATA - all of which are supported. I > am also using a Supermicro 8-port SATA card (PCI-X), which again is > the recommended item for use! > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
2008/10/6 mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick > working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can > get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) > > I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit > port. That's about it. I am using an Intel S3210SH server board, which has two onboard Intel gigabit interfaces and 6 onboard SATA - all of which are supported. I am also using a Supermicro 8-port SATA card (PCI-X), which again is the recommended item for use! ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help
I posted a thread here... http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel CPU. At least one gigabit port. That's about it. I built a list in that thread of all the options I found from the major manufacturers that Newegg has as the pool of possible chipsets/etc... any help is appreciated (anyone actually using any of these) - and remember I'm trying to use Nevada out of the box, not have to download specific drivers and tweak all this myself... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
