Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-31 Thread Vincent Fox
Dear Admin
u said:
choose a 3-disk RAID-1 or a 4-disk RAID10
set for tank over RAIDZ aWith a 3-disk mirror you'd have a disk left over
to be hot spare for failure in either rpool or tank.
why do u prefer raid1 with one spare rather than raidz?
i heard raidz has better redundancy than raid 1 or 5?!
doesnt raidz support failover when one of my disk crach?
Regards[/i]

A RAIDZ set would allow 1 disk failure before it
becomes non-redundant and if a 2nd disk fails you
would lose all data.  RAIDZ is similar to RAID5 in that
it only takes a double-disk failure to lose everything.
Of course you could have RAIDZ2 which is akin to RAID6.

A 3-disk mirror set with 2 disks failing you would
still have data.

You need to read more on RAID terminology.  Twice in
my career I have had 2 disks fail in a RAID5 set before
a hot spare could be added and all data was lost.

Perfect paranoia is perfect awareness.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-30 Thread iman habibi
Dear Admin
I have a server with 6 HDD,in fresh installation i select two disks for
mirroring and create rpool and installing solaris10,but i need further space
than default rpool`s file systems for installing my application. (for
example mysql).so i decide create another pool (named tank) with 4 remaining
disks in raidz mode.but my question here?
can i install my application in new pool (tank) or should better install my
application in its default location for example /opt or /usr then symlink
its folder to this new pool? or better mount new pool to default /usr or
/opt?
i would be appreciated if u guide me about best solution in these situation.
Regards

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Vincent Fox vincent_b_...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Seems a lot simpler to create a multi-way mirror.
 Then symlink your /opt/BIND or whatever off to new place.

 # zpool create opt-new mirror c3t40d0 c3t40d1 c3t40d2 c3t40d3
 # zpool status
  pool: opt-new
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:

NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
opt-new  ONLINE   0 0 0
  mirror ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d1  ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d2  ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d3  ONLINE   0 0 0

 errors: No known data errors

 There is no problem with having more than 2 disks in a mirror.
 If you have an old system with a bunch of old disk I could see
 good reason to be this paranoid.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-30 Thread Vincent Fox
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 Dear AdminbrI have a server with 6 HDD,in fresh
 installation i select two disks for mirroring and
 create rpool and installing solaris10,but i need
 further space than default rpool`s file systems for
 installing my application. (for example mysql).so i
 decide create another pool (named tank) with 4
 remaining disks in raidz mode.but my question
 here?br
 can i install my application in new pool (tank) or
 should better install my application in its default
 location for example /opt or /usr then symlink its
 folder to this new pool? or better mount new pool to
 default /usr or /opt?br
 i would be appreciated if u guide me about best
 solution in these situation.brRegardsbrbrdiv


If the install-point of the software defaults to /opt/mysql
you could just as easily mount a new filesystem in tank
mounted onto the  point you need it.
Example:

zfs create -o mountpoint=/opt/mysql tank/mysql

I don't see a distinction that MATTERS between these choices.
Pick one.  You ask as though you think there's some deep
decision being made here when there isn't.

I would personally choose a 3-disk RAID-1 or a 4-disk RAID10
set for tank over RAIDZ any day.  Safety matters most to me these
days not disk space.  With a 3-disk mirror you'd have a disk left over
to be hot spare for failure in either rpool or tank.  If you put all 4 into
a RAID-10 set you'd have better performance and more space with
a bit less safety.  Choose.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-29 Thread Vincent Fox
Seems a lot simpler to create a multi-way mirror.
Then symlink your /opt/BIND or whatever off to new place.

# zpool create opt-new mirror c3t40d0 c3t40d1 c3t40d2 c3t40d3
# zpool status
  pool: opt-new
 state: ONLINE
 scrub: none requested
config:

NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
opt-new  ONLINE   0 0 0
  mirror ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d1  ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d2  ONLINE   0 0 0
c3t40d3  ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors

There is no problem with having more than 2 disks in a mirror.
If you have an old system with a bunch of old disk I could see
good reason to be this paranoid.
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[zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-27 Thread iman habibi
Dear Admins

My machine is ultra-sparc and has 6 H.D.D .I want to run an application
server(Dns server),with perfect redundancy and data protection for my
operating system and application files and folders.
i install bind on /opt.
so during solaris 10 installation i choose two disks for mirroring in zpool
and making root file system.but i want to have raidz with 4 reamining disks
and a file system like /opt to have safer protection for my application
files and folders.
but /opt exist in first zpool with two disks under /.
what is the best plan for data protection in my server? both for my
operating system and application software that install in /opt with 6 scsi
hard disks?

Regards
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