Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:10:18PM -0700, eric kustarz wrote:
>
> There's going to be some very good stuff for ZFS in s10u4, can you
> please update the issues *and* features when it comes out?
Yes, and don't forget to add, that the POSIX ACL has been dropped/replaced by
the braindamaged NFS4 ACLs. Now (when one migrates/cp UFS to ZFS) one
needs to "chmod -R A- workgroup_dir" and "find workgroup_dir -type d -exec
chmod 0770 {} +" and similar "find workgroup_dir -type f -exec chmod
0660 {} +" to make files accessable again. Last but not least one needs to
teach the *x nerds to revert to same procedures as 20 years ago: create/copy
files/dirs to workgroup_dir and than chmod g+rw etc..
Yes, windows people are laughing now about *x nerds and the nerds start
hating admins, which use ZFS for workgroup dirs and getting bad points
because they used to forget the chmod etc. thing ...
My 2 ยข.
Regards,
jel.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
Anyone know when s10u4 will be released? On 6/5/07 1:06 PM, "Jesus Cea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > eric kustarz wrote: >> Cindy has been doing a good job of putting the new features into the >> admin guide: >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfsadmin.pdf >> >> Check out the "What's New in ZFS?" section. > > I will update the wikipedia entry when Solaris10U4 be published :) > > - -- > Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argo.es/~jcea/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ > jabber / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ >_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ > "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ > "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ > "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQCVAwUBRmWYG5lgi5GaxT1NAQJtzgQAmT0FQ/1ciQYAqi2unOjPkBMe8fkkI08Y > ux19N+ONvDHp742im5ZPaWrpa5Ns+42+SWziIOPaPYC27DaV2vqLz1gun53LLRPi > /gRo2AFCgKGvmHBM2qsL9Ch8kepMSm4pUmWLjG81eIq+1R5wjo5Dv4Nld0YITS9u > EdrfG6VU6pE= > =pa0L > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss Andy Lubel Application Administrator / IT Department -- ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 eric kustarz wrote: > Cindy has been doing a good job of putting the new features into the > admin guide: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfsadmin.pdf > > Check out the "What's New in ZFS?" section. I will update the wikipedia entry when Solaris10U4 be published :) - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argo.es/~jcea/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ jabber / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRmWYG5lgi5GaxT1NAQJtzgQAmT0FQ/1ciQYAqi2unOjPkBMe8fkkI08Y ux19N+ONvDHp742im5ZPaWrpa5Ns+42+SWziIOPaPYC27DaV2vqLz1gun53LLRPi /gRo2AFCgKGvmHBM2qsL9Ch8kepMSm4pUmWLjG81eIq+1R5wjo5Dv4Nld0YITS9u EdrfG6VU6pE= =pa0L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
Would be very nice if the improvements would be documented anywhere :-) Cindy has been doing a good job of putting the new features into the admin guide: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfsadmin.pdf Check out the "What's New in ZFS?" section. eric ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 eric kustarz wrote: > There's going to be some very good stuff for ZFS in s10u4, can you > please update the issues *and* features when it comes out? Of course. That was my commitment when I decided to create the "beware" section in the wikipedia article. Would be very nice if the improvements would be documented anywhere :-) - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argo.es/~jcea/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ jabber / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRmWUcZlgi5GaxT1NAQLUuwP/WNIQMLKEwRLBbU4ALZcL2dWK+/s1JUcb ItYJsCmF3h4dSAufPpiXw7T7ZaRfVYxR/D9W4VY3/SilIgZ8zb+Tip0TP7DWlqs8 K9RHndK+8QsYMpK3J8koNGeaN/vE0EGxe8xdvQghRg4hU93Y2rW/73OxGU0KJNkd KQPODW2SKfo= =S4/H -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Toby Thain wrote: Sorry, I should have cited it. Blew my chance to moderate by posting to the thread :) http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236627&cid=19319903 I computed the FUD factor by sorting the items into known bugs; fixed bugs; and incorrect. Maybe you could improve the wikipedia article :-). My main point creating that section was to document "issues" important enough to know before deploying ZFS. Observe that "unoficial" Solaris no-releases are not applicable (solaris express, nevada). The last Solaris is Solaris 10 Update 3. I'm a ZFS convert. Sure. But current release has rough edges we must know about. And no, I can't deploy an experimental release; I must adhere to Sun Solaris official updates. Waiting for Solaris 10 Update 4 impatiently :). Very :-) There's going to be some very good stuff for ZFS in s10u4, can you please update the issues *and* features when it comes out? thanks, eric ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Toby Thain wrote: > Sorry, I should have cited it. Blew my chance to moderate by posting to > the thread :) > > http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236627&cid=19319903 > > I computed the FUD factor by sorting the items into known bugs; fixed > bugs; and incorrect. Maybe you could improve the wikipedia article :-). My main point creating that section was to document "issues" important enough to know before deploying ZFS. Observe that "unoficial" Solaris no-releases are not applicable (solaris express, nevada). The last Solaris is Solaris 10 Update 3. I'm a ZFS convert. Sure. But current release has rough edges we must know about. And no, I can't deploy an experimental release; I must adhere to Sun Solaris official updates. Waiting for Solaris 10 Update 4 impatiently :). Very :-) - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argo.es/~jcea/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ jabber / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRmI1I5lgi5GaxT1NAQLaTQQAogMR0ffMmPwPsWICH7WzUvzLZsd6Tj7F mg1q5iiddnJmGOfdf16Vgtl4/sLmkIfYZOJDotqUeHWpd25BAhlLTkj/18ow7ypN Kv3roB/yK0RuIbnwrDyNJFGaY1NxWGplZANdYjoRvNlSC1VHOD5Urm/XOQO+c1BU 0zi4WV8A74A= =k7Sc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
On 30-May-07, at 6:31 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: What comment in particular was that? Sorry, I should have cited it. Blew my chance to moderate by posting to the thread :) http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236627&cid=19319903 I computed the FUD factor by sorting the items into known bugs; fixed bugs; and incorrect. --Toby Jerry K Toby Thain wrote: On 30-May-07, at 4:28 PM, Mark A. Carlson wrote: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0135218&from=rss One highly rated comment features some of the first real ZFS FUD I've seen in the wild. Does this signify that ZFS is being taken seriously now? :) --Toby ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
What comment in particular was that? Jerry K Toby Thain wrote: On 30-May-07, at 4:28 PM, Mark A. Carlson wrote: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0135218&from=rss One highly rated comment features some of the first real ZFS FUD I've seen in the wild. Does this signify that ZFS is being taken seriously now? :) --Toby ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?
On 30-May-07, at 4:28 PM, Mark A. Carlson wrote: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0135218&from=rss One highly rated comment features some of the first real ZFS FUD I've seen in the wild. Does this signify that ZFS is being taken seriously now? :) --Toby ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
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