Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Proposal: multiple copies of user data

2006-09-12 Thread Darren J Moffat

Anton B. Rang wrote:
The biggest problem I see with this is one of observability, if not all 
of the data is encrypted yet what should the encryption property say ? 
If it says encryption is on then the admin might think the data is 
safe, but if it says it is off that isn't the truth either because 
some of it maybe still encrypted.



From a user interface perspective, I'd expect something like


  Encryption: Being enabled, 75% complete
or
  Encryption: Being disabled, 25% complete, about 2h23m remaining


and if we are still writing to the file systems at that time ?

Maybe this really does need to be done with the file system locked.


I'm not sure how you'd map this into a property (or several), but it seems like on/off ought to 
be paired with transitioning to on/transitioning to off for any changes which aren't 
instantaneous.


Agreed, and checksum and compression would have the same issue if there 
was a mechanism to rewrite with the new checksums or compression settings.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Proposal: multiple copies of user data

2006-09-12 Thread Dick Davies

On 12/09/06, Celso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One of the great things about zfs, is that it protects not just against 
mechanical failure, but against silent data corruption. Having this available 
to laptop owners seems to me to be important to making zfs even more attractive.


I'm not arguing against that. I was just saying that *if* this was useful to you
(and you were happy with the dubious resilience/performance benefits) you can
already create mirrors/raidz on a single disk by using partitions as
building blocks.
There's no need to implement the proposal to gain that.



Am I correct in assuming that having say 2 copies of your documents 
filesystem means should silent data corruption occur, your data can be reconstructed. So 
that you can leave your os and base applications with 1 copy, but your important data can 
be protected.


Yes.

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