Re: [zfs-discuss] file recovery on lost RAIDZ array

2010-09-28 Thread Michael Eskowitz

I'm sorry to say that I am quite the newbie to ZFS.  When you say zfs 
send/receive what exactly are you referring to?

I had the zfs array mounted to a specific location in my file system 
(/mnt/Share) and I was sharing that location over the network with a samba 
server.  The directory had read-write-execute persion set to allow anyone to 
write to it and I was copying data from windows into it.

At what point do file changes get committed to the file system?  I sort of 
assumed that any additional files copied over would be committed once the next 
file began copying.

Thanks for your insight.

-Mike



  
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Re: [zfs-discuss] file recovery on lost RAIDZ array

2010-09-13 Thread Richard Elling
On Sep 12, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Michael Eskowitz wrote:

> I recently lost all of the data on my single parity raid z array.  Each of 
> the drives was encrypted with the zfs array built within the encrypted 
> volumes.
> 
> I am not exactly sure what happened.  

Murphy strikes again!

> The files were there and accessible and then they were all gone.  The server 
> apparently crashed and rebooted and everything was lost.  After the crash I 
> remounted the encrypted drives and the zpool was still reporting that roughly 
> 3TB of the 7TB array were used, but I could not see any of the files through 
> the array's mount point.  I unmounted the zpool and then remounted it and 
> suddenly zpool was reporting 0TB were used.  

Were you using zfs send/receive?  If so, then this is the behaviour expected 
when a
session is interrupted. Since the snapshot did not completely arrive at the 
receiver, the
changes are rolled back.  It can take a few minutes for terabytes to be freed.

> I did not remap the virtual device.  The only thing of note that I saw was 
> that the name of storage pool had changed.  Originally it was "Movies" and 
> then it became "Movita".  I am guessing that the file system became corrupted 
> some how.  (zpool status did not report any errors)
> 
> So, my questions are these... 
> 
> Is there anyway to undelete data from a lost raidz array?

It depends entirely on the nature of the loss.  In the case I describe above, 
there is nothing
lost because nothing was there (!)

>  If I build a new virtual device on top of the old one and the drive topology 
> remains the same, can we scan the drives for files from old arrays?

The short answer is no.

> Also, is there any way to repair a corrupted storage pool?

Yes, but it depends entirely on the nature of the corruption.

>  Is it possible to backup the file table or whatever partition index zfs 
> maintains?

The ZFS configuration data is stored redundantly in the pool and checksummed.

> I imagine that you all are going to suggest that I scrub the array, but that 
> is not an option at this point.  I had a backup of all of the data lost as I 
> am moving between file servers so at a certain point I gave up and decided to 
> start fresh.  This doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling about zfs, though.

AFAICT, ZFS appears to be working as designed.  Are you trying to kill the 
canary? :-)
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Re: [zfs-discuss] file recovery on lost RAIDZ array

2010-09-13 Thread Michael Eskowitz
Oh and yes, raidz1.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] file recovery on lost RAIDZ array

2010-09-13 Thread Michael Eskowitz
I don't know what happened.  I was in the process of copying files onto my new 
file server when the copy process from the other machine failed.  I turned on 
the monitor for the fileserver and found that it had rebooted by itself at some 
point (machine fault maybe?) and when I remounted the drives every last thing 
was gone.

I am new to zfs.  How do you take snapshots?  Does the sytem do it 
automagically for you?
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Re: [zfs-discuss] file recovery on lost RAIDZ array

2010-09-13 Thread Orvar Korvar
That sounds strange. What happened? You used raidz1?

You can mount your zpool into an earlier snapshot. Have you tried that? Or, you 
can mount your pool within the last 30 seconds or so, I think.
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