RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is an idiot
-Marc- > Odd that we get critized for merely reacting to the U.S. but now > a truly insignificant molehill is over-shadowed by a mountain, > and all the Marc, I'm baffled at your insistent glee on this topic. I have seen no "mountain" regarding this. I would have missed the initial report altogether if not for Jim's pointing it out, and would probably have thought nothing of it afterward had you not gone ballistic. The first newspaper report I've noticed of it was in Tuesday's, I think, Seattle Times, on page A10. About three column-inches (47.6 Canuck-Celsius-column-centimeters). It may have been bigger news in DC, giving many there a laugh, but I really don't think many Americans paid much attention to it. But I suppose that's bad, too. Either we don't pay enough attention to Canada and Canadians, or we pay too much attention. As I mentioned before, I suspect you're merely demonstrating that famous Canadian thin-skinnedness. > IMore tommmorow, but I'm glad to see you've dropped your claim > that she was a politician. Jim did not drop that claim, as far as I can tell. At least, I hope he didn't. He was right. > Why don't officials have the right to free speech? Who says they don't? Publishing "private" conversations overheard in a public setting is hardly comparable to, say, bugging someone's telephone. > Secondly, Jim, you don't seem to have read the article you > posted, just as you misremembered what the nature of the > position. But he did not misremember the nature of the position. > The article does *not* say that any public officials or > politicians said anything. It was a private company, > MediaWorks, who made the comment True, so you are technically correct about Jim being in error. But he is correct in spirit. MediaWorks was acting in its capacity as a contract media advisor to government. So while the Canadian government did not make the comment, their hired help did. In either case, it reflects on the Canadian government. > Are you going to admit you were wrong in both instances, truly > hoist by your own petard regarding the nature of both incidents. I really don't understand your bloodlust here. Jim was right, not wrong, in his assessment of Ducros as a politician, as he clearly demonstrated by appeal to a dictionary definition. Why are you so insistent that Jim admit his supposed error? Stephen // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation
-Marc- > And Jim never did admit he was wrong in his initial report. Why should he? He wasn't wrong. Stephen // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Computer Problems
At 11:19 AM 11/27/02 -0600, someone on another list wrote: Normally I'm not a believer in demonic possession, but if you spend much time on a computer you could quickly be convinced otherwise. Starting last night, this computer would only come up in "Safe Mode": not the menu which allows you to choose regular mode, safe mode, DOS mode, etc., but ONLY safe mode. After three hours or so of tinkering, it seems that (at least part of) the problem is that the keyboard has developed a problem so the computer thinks that the "Shift" key is _always_ on. So I am typing on an "official" (so light it feels like junk) Micro$oft keyboard and using the touchpad on the ALPS keyboard. If I can't get the latter fixed, I guess I'll have to find a substitute (I already know that the model I like has been discontinued). All I hope is that this is the _only_ demon to be exorcised . . . --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Toiletese (was Coffee, Tea, or Eternity)
Gary Smith:
A sage plumber I once visited at his throne on a high pile,
er, mountain of, er, uh, well anyway he told me that there
are two secrets to plumbing:
The good water comes up, and the dirty water goes down
the hole.
___
Did he say what to do if the steel wool scouring pad goes
down the toilet first and gets stuck? ("I didn't do it.")
If he didn't, does anyone else have any ideas. I haven't
been able to snake it out yet, and I'm not sure any of
those chemicals (like Drano) will work on steel wool.
It has two toilets, two sinks, and a bathtub clogged right
now. Fortunately, we have one other set of plumbing that
drains past wherever the clog is, but I'm afraid we are
going to push it to a point where everything backs up.
What a wonderful weekend for company.
The turkey was good, though. Calmed everyone right down.
Larry Jackson
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Re: [ZION] Fundis
Actually, the Baptists in our area (Raleigh) have a hard time bashing the Church, mainly because of decades of selfless service by so many members in this area. The temple was well accepted in this area, and won the Apex award for the most beautiful property (or something like that) last year. Our bookstore was also well accepted. Yes, there were a few wackos out there. One day while I was at the temple site during its construction, we looked out of the construction trailer to see some wackos in a circle praying about something or another. When we approached them (just two of us with friendly smiles) they disappeared. A similar thing has happened at the middle school our ward meets at. We have grown so much in the area that we ran out of room. They are building a new stake centre-sized building, but it will not be ready until next October. We are, in fact, meeting in the most expensive LDS meeting house in the world. We have to pay the Wake County Public School System $10/person each Sunday. Since we always have between 250 - 300 people, we pay more than $10K/month! Well, anyway, on a couple of Sundays some folks have come to the school, dressed in other than normal goin'-to-meetin' attire. They were not very friendly when I greeted them. A little later, during the Sacrament meeting, we spied them holding a similar prayer circle outside the school. Apparently, it hasn't worked! We are about to form yet another ward (who will be without a home, but will probably travel to a meeting house closer to that part of our ward that does have a single time slot available). a couple of years back, we had 12 wards in our stake. The Stake presidencies goal was 12 stakes by 2020. We may make it! Jon - Original Message - From: "Scott McGee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "zion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Fundis > On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:58:16 -0500, "Jon Spencer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Y'all just come on down here to Apex, NC. We have a Baptist church on > > just > > about every corner. YOU tell them to convert to Christ's church. You > > can > > do it during their annual anti-Mormon Sunday meeting. > > Wow! Your Baptists only have one anti-Mormon meeting a year? I think here > they range more like six or seven. And not just the Baptists, though they > are the worst most of the time. > > Scott > > -- > Buttered bread always lands butter side * Would YOU mistake these as > down (Unless it sticks to the ceiling!) * anyone`s opinions but my own? > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott McGee) > Web: http://scott.themcgees.org/ > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Paul's dad
Did I read this correctly? Did you say that denying yourself the blessings of the temple IS the way to face problems? Inquiring minds Jon Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: > At 19:53 11/26/2002 -0800, St Stace wrote: > >I suggest you make arrangements to attend the temple as soon as > >possible. Denying yourself the blessings of the temple is not the way to > >face these dire events. > > > > Yes, in fact, it IS the way to face them. > > Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Afte
Paul - this is excellent advice. If one's motivation for telling on someone is along the lines of "that person shouldn't have a temple recommend," then do yourself a favor and keep the lips sealed. However, if you are truly concerned for an individual's eternal blessings and wish to help them avoid trying to mock the Lord, then do as Paul (Paul O. that is :-) suggests. Talk to them. if they are too afraid to go to the Bishop alone, then offer to go with them. After that, in love and faith, seek the assistance of your Priesthood leadership to help this individual. Jon Paul wrote: > >If I tried to make this public what could happen to me? Is this > considered > >"gossip?" and "heresay?" > > > I don't know about your situation but if I was close to someone whom I > was pretty sure had committed a serious sin and was not repenting I would > probably let the bishop know about it and leave it in his hands for the > time being. Keep it a private matter with the priesthood authorities. > Depending on the circumstances I might warn the person that the bishop > will be tipped off so if there is something to confess they best do it of > their own free will and choice and get the matter resolved properly. > > I don't think it is gossip or what not. Nothing should be said outside > the bounds of love and general concern for the welfare of the individual > involved. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation
Perhaps, but I'm still hearing flak from USAmericans (perhaps not on this list anymore). And Jim never did admit he was wrong in his initial report. Gary Smith wrote: > Marc, > You know, we USAmericans wouldn't worry so much about her as you suggest > we shouldn't, if you wouldn't keep worrying so much about her onthe list! > ;-) > > I'd almost forgotten about her today, until you brought her up again... > > At least she has free medical care if she gets sacked... > > K'aya K'ama, > Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www > .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html > "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Toiletese (was Coffee, Tea, or Eternity)
My cousin, a civil engineer who's about a decade older than me, eventually became director of water works for the City of Calgary. He summed up his whole degree: " flows downhill. Everything else is detail." Gary Smith wrote: > A sage plumber I once visited at his throne on a high pile, er, mountain > of, er, uh, well anyway he told me that there are two secrets to > plumbing: > > The good water comes up, and the dirty water goes down the hole. > > Most people only mix these cardinal rules up once at most. (unless you > are really, really, really stupid). > > K'aya K'ama, > Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www > .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html > "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > > -Marc- > > W/L 5/8 BELOW > > Any plumbers out there who can read toiletese? ;-) > > I'm neither a plumber nor fluent in toiletese, but I suspect the first > number is the tank capacity, while the second refers to the total amount > of water per flush. > Septic Stephen > > > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
[ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation
Marc, You know, we USAmericans wouldn't worry so much about her as you suggest we shouldn't, if you wouldn't keep worrying so much about her onthe list! ;-) I'd almost forgotten about her today, until you brought her up again... At least she has free medical care if she gets sacked... K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Can Anyone Become a Fully Qualified Member....
Stacy, If it concerns you, discuss it with his bishop. Let him know what you know about the situation, then let him handle it. If he sees any major problem, he will work it. He is the judge in Israel, not any of us (including Paul, even though I heard he has a gavel he likes rapping the table with) has the right to judge him for past sins. We only have the responsibility to ensure the bishop is aware of the problem. I see this in the same vein as a person who is called to a calling. When asked to sustain the person, if I know there is some serious/major reason to not sustain the person, it is my duty to bring it up. Once I discuss it with the authority, it is in their hands. I don't worry about it anymore. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Stacy: If I tried to make this public what could happen to me? Is this considered "gossip?" and "heresay?" Stacy. Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Paul's Dad
I find that the thing that brings me the greatest peace during this time of troubles and uncertainty is being in the temple. I can leave all the terrorists, unemployment, recession, Democrats, and all the other problems outside. I feel the Spirit, and am re-energized so that I am stronger to handle the telestial world we live in. Paul, if you have a headache, do you resist taking aspirin/tylenol/motrin because you can't bear the headache going down some? So it is with the temple, except that it works like morphine (with fewer side effects). It brings me peace in these troubles times. Now is the time to go, when you are struggling the most. Will you do us the favor and set a date to go again? Hopefully in December, but if not, definitely in January. Go several times. Show the terrorists you are going to beat them by performing eternal saving ordinances for the deceased. They might kill a few people's bodies, but you will be saving several people's souls. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe >Paul - >Don't you think that it is about time to return to the House of the Lord? I >do believe that your outlook on life and the blessings you receive will >improve/increase. I agree. I'll get back to it sooner or later. Probably a little later than sooner. In the mean time... Paul O Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Toiletese (was Coffee, Tea, or Eternity)
A sage plumber I once visited at his throne on a high pile, er, mountain of, er, uh, well anyway he told me that there are two secrets to plumbing: The good water comes up, and the dirty water goes down the hole. Most people only mix these cardinal rules up once at most. (unless you are really, really, really stupid). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -Marc- > W/L 5/8 BELOW > Any plumbers out there who can read toiletese? ;-) I'm neither a plumber nor fluent in toiletese, but I suspect the first number is the tank capacity, while the second refers to the total amount of water per flush. Septic Stephen Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Turkey Mood
I'm guessing, from what I read below, that the mood on the list should be very upbeat after today. I'm planning to have for lunch a turkey and cheese sandwich with milk and a banana for desert whenever I have the need to be sharp in the evening. Tom Posted on Thu, Nov. 21, 2002 Turkey chemical may lift mood, researchers say >From Herald Wire Services The chemical in turkey that may cause people to nod off after Thanksgiving dinner also plays a role in maintaining good mood and memory, especially among people with a family history of depression, Dutch researchers report in the current issue of Brain, Behavior and Immunity. Tryptophan, found in turkey and commonly blamed in the media for creating the sluggish after-feast feeling, is a metabolic precursor to the chemical messenger known as serotonin. It's also found in foods like milk, bread, cheese and bananas. Tryptophan levels were lowered in 27 volunteers, 16 of whom had an immediate relative with major depression. The depletion temporarily induced mood depression in half of the subjects who had a family history of depression but in only 9 percent of those with no family history of depression. The authors suggest the findings may have implications for people with a family history of major depression whose tryptophan becomes depleted because of dieting or cancer treatments. Tom Cardston, Alberta www.matkin.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Text Messages on Cell Phone
It just came to my attention that the text messaging function on my cell phone has now been activated. A holiday gift to me from Rogers AT&T. I was able to send a brief message (test) to my regular email address and also to send an email message to my cell phone from my computer. I also sent a brief message to my wife (Hi Hon, Love Tom) to her cell phone and just to make sure there is peace in the family I sent one to my daughter. That pretty much exhausts my sense of what can be done with this new method of communication. Does anyone on the list use this service? If so why? It is painfully slow to compose even the simplest message, something akin to setting the time on your VCR. Perhaps some of you out there can suggest good reasons for this service. I've seen the cool TV commercials where disarmingly casual young men warn each other from the horrors of attending a possible "chick flick" using their text messaging phones, or where two young lovers share messages from either end of a Greyhound bus. But at $.15 a pop one wonders. Why not just call the person up and talk? I suppose it makes the phone into a glorified pager, but I already have a voice mail feature on my cell phone to collect the wrong numbers that frequently catch me. I seem to have a number that was once had by a sales rep. at Zurich Life Insurance. He still gets a lot of calls er... I still get a lot of his calls on that number. His name is Neal. I hope we meet one day. I'll click my tongue and point my finger with my thumb straight up, in that classic sales rep sort of way, and say "Hi ya Neal, I've got yer number!" It would take 45 minutes to turn those seven words into a text message on the cell phone. Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving to y'all. Here's a link to tell you how to avoid killing yourself preparing that Butterball. Sorry if it's too late to help. http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/FoodSafety/foodsturkey.php#What Imagine the odds of survival if you were eating turkey on a Disney Cruise ship? Tom Cardston, Alberta www.matkin.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Carry a Colt
After much pondering, Stacy Smith favored us with: >Then what about the safety of blind people who wish to travel? Truly I'm >beginning to wonder about our liberties. Carry mace. I do. Carry a Colt .45, I do. Of course I only carry it when I think I am at high risk for needing it, and that hasn't been since 1970 more than 30 years ago. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] True Christians
There are two kinds of Christianity in the world: True Christianity and false Christianity. True Christianity is found only in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] consistent testing found to be a better predictorthancharter sc
Mark Gregson wrote: > > > The one fly in the ointment is that rural students fair much poorly. > > A quote from the report: > "Alberta students did exceptionally well: Rural students outscored even the urban >ones of all other provinces except B.C., Quebec and Newfoundland." > > So there you have it, folks. Albertan farmers are smarter than your average city >slicker. Apparently my children's school, which is in a small town of about 1,000, >scores up near the top academically. Others have noted this and swamped the school >this year with requests to have their children attend there even though they don't >live in the school district. The school had to turn away many. > Minor fly in the ointment, of course: Alberta city students did better than their urban counterparts. But still, with comprehensive, province-wide testing in place, and a sense of direct accountability to stakeholders, that's how we're able to keep our educational system consistently amongst the best in the world. No magic, and nothing no other jurisidiction couldn't do. Well, okay, that crisp winter air does clear the mind a bit before an algebra exam... > > But I'm very surprised about Newfoundland. They have earned their reputation >honestly, from my experience, so I'm flabbergasted that they scored so well. > Newfoundland has a complex school system which I won't get into here, but again, they have province-wide exams. And I think that's a major key. Not the magic button, but a sine qua non (a necessary but not sufficient condition). Here's a little known factoid for y'all. The yacht that is currently in first place to challenge the US in the America's Cup, comes from that great seafaring nation.Switzerland. They found a company in St. John's (which is nothing if not surrounded by sea, and has experience as a port going back over 400 years), which specializes in modelling hull shapes mathematically, and also has big water tanks for actual testing. It's believed the Swiss boat has a much better hull, which responds best under all conditions, and if anyone will be the US, it will be the Swiss. Wouldn't that be something? They'd have to appoint someone an admiral just to present the award.. > > = Mark Gregson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
RE: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing
Stacy Smith: Well, it has been said that he was not honest at his baptismal interview. However, I currently have only second-hand information of this. ___ If true, another reason to be very careful. It is very rare, in my experience, that a dishonest person becomes honest. His status in the judicial system is a matter of public record, though. So if this is really troubling you, it would not be hard to find out when he was baptized and when he completed the requirements of the law (assuming he has). Three things to consider. First, second-hand information is more often than not unreliable. There are too many motives involved and folks usually don't get it right. Second, since he has a temple recommend, I presume there has been a significant amount of activity and living of the gospel. This would weigh heavily in his favor, all other things being equal (unless he has been lying in those interviews). Third, his bishop may know all about all of this already. If it turns out he is still legally on probation or parole, his bishop and stake president should know and would have the wonderful job of figuring out what to do about it. For sure he would lose his recommend. He wouldn't necessarily lose his membership. If it turns out he is clean with the law, but lied in his interviews to get where he is with the Church, his bishop and stake president will have to figure out what to do about that, too, but the decision would be easier for them. And, since I don't have the whole story from anyone yet, none of this may apply at all. In any event, it would appear that your first decision to not be involved with this person was a very wise one. Don't let your guard down. Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] consistent testing found to be a better predictor than charter sc
> The one fly in the ointment is that rural students fair much poorly. A quote from the report: "Alberta students did exceptionally well: Rural students outscored even the urban ones of all other provinces except B.C., Quebec and Newfoundland." So there you have it, folks. Albertan farmers are smarter than your average city slicker. Apparently my children's school, which is in a small town of about 1,000, scores up near the top academically. Others have noted this and swamped the school this year with requests to have their children attend there even though they don't live in the school district. The school had to turn away many. But I'm very surprised about Newfoundland. They have earned their reputation honestly, from my experience, so I'm flabbergasted that they scored so well. = Mark Gregson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] December's Friend mag
Geez, Heidi--isn't this just like a guy! Never mind your son's picture was in the Friend (which, by the way, is really cool) and that he should be congratulated, it's all about the food! Must be Thanksgiving or something. . .;-) your sis in Mishawaka val On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:45:05 -0700 Steven Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Cool! > > Kin ya send me some of that blueberry pie? > > Steven Montgomery > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 04:11 PM 11/27/2002, you wrote: > >Hi all...we got our December Church magazines today, and when I > looked in > >the Friend on page 28 (in the "Trying To Be Like Jesus" section), > there was > >my son's picture. Months ago, I helped him write out his > experience and we > >mailed it off. Are we ever excited to see it in the Friend, and I > thought > >I'd let you all know. > > > >Gotta go...I'm making homemade filling for blueberry pie... > > > >Heidi the fair > > > > > >Heidi Page > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > / / > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > > > .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] December's Friend mag
Cool! Kin ya send me some of that blueberry pie? Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:11 PM 11/27/2002, you wrote: Hi all...we got our December Church magazines today, and when I looked in the Friend on page 28 (in the "Trying To Be Like Jesus" section), there was my son's picture. Months ago, I helped him write out his experience and we mailed it off. Are we ever excited to see it in the Friend, and I thought I'd let you all know. Gotta go...I'm making homemade filling for blueberry pie... Heidi the fair Heidi Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
