Re: [ZION] lost and found

2003-06-05 Thread Noel Bennion
Does it have an email client on it?  Look into the account info. Send the
owner an email.
Does it have a word processing program? Check the files for information.
Does is have ownership information under system information?

If it doesn't boot, maybe it was meant to be lost...

Noel
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Date: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:34:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZION] lost and found

The MS number is less likely to give a direct link to the owner. however,
if it is not a big name brand computer, then MS could probably tell you who
the manufacturer is, if you can find anyone at MS to speak to.

Jon

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From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] lost and found


 Oh, it's a

 Microsoft product 25 code number


 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:50:04 -0500 Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
 
  Zion might know.
 
  I found a lap top computer. It has no name or identification. Is
  there a
  way to track down the owner with the product code number? If so,
  how do
  I so it?
 
  Paul O


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Re: [ZION] Study Bible in Hebrew, Greek, etc.

2002-10-29 Thread Noel Bennion

Perhaps I should have explained, the Biblia Sacra that I picked up was the
Louvain Rescension - 1590. The font is, on a good day, smaller than 6 point
and not user friendly. So much for my feeble Latin voyage into the
antiquities...

Noel
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Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:58:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZION] Study Bible in Hebrew, Greek, etc.

A good Latin Bible (the Vulgate version, naturally) is Biblia Sacra Latina,
known
as the Sistine Version (because it was commissioned by Pope Sixtus V and
later
reworked a bit under Clement VIII. My version was published by Samuel
Bagster 
Sons, and as usual, I got it at the Canadian Bible Society (we have a good
store
of the CBS that's right on the edge of the U of Alberta campus), but most
Christian bookstores will carry it. It uses modern Roman script, so isn't
hard to
read.

Noel Bennion wrote:

 Geoff,

 I use the Interlinear Bible by Jay P. Green with the The Strongest Strongs
 Concordance. The Interlinear Bible by Green comes in two flavors; there is
 a 4 volume set that doesn't have the Strong numbers in it and there is a
one
 volue set that does. I had both and ended up selling the 4 volume set
 because I liked having the Strongs information in the book. Both sets use
 what I believe is called the literal translation of the bible, somewhat
 different than the KJV.

 You just have to have good eyes or a good pair of glasses to use it. While
 this approach doesn't necessarily teach you the language fundamentals, it
 does give you insights into the Hebrew and Greek word applications.

 I have picked up an old Latin bible and a basic teach yourself Latin book
 and got thoroughly annoyed because challenge of reading the old latin text


 Noel

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 Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:00:36 PM

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: [ZION] Study Bible in Hebrew, Greek, etc.

 Hello,

 Does anyone know of an accurate study Bible in the original Hebrew and

 Greek? I would like to learn more about those biblical languages and I

 figure that this is the way to do it. However, I am unsure of which

 Bible to purchase. There are different interlinear ones, but what I am

 looking for doesn't necessarily have to be interlinear.

 I wouldn't mind something that included Latin or Aramaic as well. There

 was such a book that one of the Church Father's put together, but the

 name of it escapes me. Does something like that exist today?

 Thank you for your input,

 Geoff


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Re: [ZION] Who is the House of Israel?

2002-10-27 Thread Noel Bennion
Val,
You hit the issue on the head. In one context, a word has a particular
meaning, in another something different. But, after the first scratch of the
surface, I can see that there are definite patterns. For example, in 1st
Nephi chapters 13-15, one can see a pattern of pre-restoration (1st Nephi
13:1-33), restoration ( 1st Nephi 13:34-42) and post restoration (1st Nephi
14) designations of gentiles. As can be expected, the restoration and
post-restoration are, I believe, inclusive of the members of the church.
That approach makes sense to me based of the blessings bestowed in the last
two sections relative to the Gentiles. It is also appropriate to consider
the warnings in those sections to be applicable to the members of the church
 Hope that helps.

Noel

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Subject: Re: [ZION] Who is the House of Israel?

Noel:
After reading your response to John, I had a thought (I know,
scary thing). Sometimes--in fact many times--in the scriptures and
doctrines of the church, one word does mean many different things. For
example--salvation and exaltation. Are they the same?? Sometimes
Salvation is used in a context to mean Exaltation but generally
speaking, and standing alone, they are not.

I think context is important as you make your list of relevant
scriptures. For instance, we are gentiles. Most of us have earth
origins that go back to Europe--or that is predominant in our genealogy.
However, we are adopted into the tribes of Israel by our righteousness.
That is what my patriarchal blessing tells me. I am of the tribe of
Ephraim. Am I a direct descendent of Ephraim? I doubt it. It's an
adoption thing.

In another context, the term gentile is meant to refer to the
worldly world--those who do not have the light of Christ.

end of thoughts
FWIW
val

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Re: [ZION] Hindu Temple

2002-10-27 Thread Noel Bennion
I guess my point on this was a veiled question on how to rationalize John's
position regarding the quality and quantity of truth in other religions with
the donations sanctions by the Church to these non Christian groups. There
is the reference in DC 51:10 which states: And let that which belongeth to
this people not be taken and given unto that of another church. I have to
assume that the brethren know when to support non-Christian and worldly
organizations and when not to.

Noel

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Date: Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:39:50 PM
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Subject: [ZION] Hindu Temple

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:31:28 -0500 (Easter Noel Bennion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I have to assume that the 'value' gained from helping other churches
 comes
 from the missionary opportunities that result. It would be
 interesting to
 see if anyone involved in these types of donations ends up joining
 the
 church.



 Noel

They may not join in this life--but seeds have definitely been planted,
and we have a millenium to see how many of those seeds come to fruition.

val :-)

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