RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps
At 07:58 AM 11/13/2003 -0700, St Steven wrote: I think that was your first mistake--putting your faith and trust in a cornbinder . The absolutely worst truck I ever drove (It belonged to my dad, and he owned several trucks for his business) was a 1971 IH pickup. Gutless, always breaking down, miserable on gas mileage. I had a 1968 Cornbinder once. It was a 1 ton, 4 door, with 2 full seats. We used it to haul wood out of the woods. We called it "The Beast" He just loved to guzzle petrol. The springs would rock and roll (it was loaded to the gills, at least 5-6 ft high, with green wood) as it wallowed through the forest. The tires would squish and moan as it lurched along at an idle in "grandma". Was quite an experience for the kids. Also had a 1971 Scout. He was named "Old Man Rust" Left rear quarter panel fell off on the road one evening and was dragging by the tail light wires. Caught fire once when I was out and about, but we just replaced the melted parts and we were good to go next day or two. He also loved to guzzle his petrol. While we're at it, we've had some jeeps, too. Had a 1946 CJ2 that I used in the woods for a while. Just sold the hulk a couple weeks ago. Also had a 1978 CJ5 that I drove as my primary vehicle for several years. Hate to say how many times I froze my toes in that puppy. It had a 360cu in engine. It was an awesome machine, for an old rustbucket with a raggedy rag top. Ah, the things memories are made of. Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps
At 07:40 PM 11/12/2003, John English wrote: going to make a movie in the desert. I took my dad's old IH pickup out in the desert - to Kilborne's hole and it broke down in the hole. I think that was your first mistake--putting your faith and trust in a cornbinder . The absolutely worst truck I ever drove (It belonged to my dad, and he owned several trucks for his business) was a 1971 IH pickup. Gutless, always breaking down, miserable on gas mileage. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Explore Freedom: http://www.geocities.com/graymada // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Old Jeeps
At 10:17 PM 11/12/2003 -0500, Grampa Bill wrote: Grampa Bill comments: Not likely. Early Alzheimers predominently afftects short term memory... not interesting life memories that happened years ago. They say that as you age, your memory is the second thing to go. Unfortunately, I can't remember what the first thing is. Also can't remember if I've used this line before in this forum. Love y'all, Only about a hundred times! Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Old Jeeps
John W. Redelfs wrote: Maybe it is early onset Alzheimers. Dang! Grampa Bill comments: Not likely. Early Alzheimers predominently afftects short term memory... not interesting life memories that happened years ago. They say that as you age, your memory is the second thing to go. Unfortunately, I can't remember what the first thing is. Also can't remember if I've used this line before in this forum. Love y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps
John A. English, n/OEF wrote: NO, I did not hear about that, however we must be on about the same page. Ira and I and I'm not sure who else, but there were three of us that were going to make a movie in the desert. I took my dad's old IH pickup out in the desert - to Kilborne's hole and it broke down in the hole. We made it back to town, and the rest of the story is about the same. My dad had to pay the tow trucks (two of them) anyway, and I was in a heap of trouble. We got a ride out of the desert in the back of a pickup - and the night had settled in. Boy was it cold. I think I must be confusing the two incidents, because I dimly remember an old green pickup. I think it was green. Anyway, it must have been you, me and Ira. The incident on July 4, 1973 with the Ford Pinto must have been another time. Sometimes I wonder if my mood swings aren't causing me permanent brain damage. Maybe it is early onset Alzheimers. Dang! Your friend and brother, John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps
John, NO, I did not hear about that, however we must be on about the same page. Ira and I and I'm not sure who else, but there were three of us that were going to make a movie in the desert. I took my dad's old IH pickup out in the desert - to Kilborne's hole and it broke down in the hole. We made it back to town, and the rest of the story is about the same. My dad had to pay the tow trucks (two of them) anyway, and I was in a heap of trouble. We got a ride out of the desert in the back of a pickup - and the night had settled in. Boy was it cold. Pax et Bonum, John A.E., n/OEF Life is a romantic business. It is painting a picture, not doing a sum -- but you have to make the romance, and it will come to the question how much fire you have in your belly. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. > -Original Message- > From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ZION] Old Jeeps > > > Steven Montgomery wrote: > >I agree. I still have several Handyman jacks. But, in the particular > >"bind" I was in, since I was at the pinnacle of a very narrow > steep ridge, > >I didn't have anyplace to put the jack, it wouldn't "hold" no > matter where > >I put it or tried to brace it, so--I broke down and paid $50.00 > to have a > >tow truck nudge me just enough to get me off. > > John English told of a jeep that belonged to a friend of ours, > Fred Evans, > that we cruised the deserts with around El Paso when we were > young. But I > have a story about Fred and his jeep that John may never have heard: > > On the 4th of July in 1973 I went out to Kilbourne Hole northwest of El > Paso with my roommate Don Riding in his little Ford Pinto. It was about > 105 degrees in the shade. Well, we got stuck in some soft sand in a dry > creek bottom on the road, and we had to walk out, a really terrifying > experience because so many die of dehydration in the same situation. > > We finally came to a deep well farm, and telephoned for a tow truck. The > tow truck got stuck trying to pull us out. Then a second tow truck got > stuck trying to pull out the first tow truck. Finally, we called > Fred who > brought his old WWII jeep out. Fred had better sense than to get > down into > the depression where the pinto and two tow trucks were stuck. He > stayed up > on the ridge and let out his winch. First he pulled out one tow truck, > then the other, and finally the Pinto. Both the tow truck operators were > so embarrassed. They had tried so hard to get out of the depression they > had badly damaged their trucks on the rocks, tearing off their > mufflers and > doing body damage. It was late that night when all of us got home. Boy > were we tired. And thank heaven for Fred and his old jeep. > > Did you ever hear that one, John? > > > John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === > "While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we > must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly, > soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding." (President > Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003) > === > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR > > // > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > // > /// > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps
John W. Redelfs wrote: > . Finally, we called Fred who > brought his old WWII jeep out. Fred had better sense than to get down > into > the depression where the pinto and two tow trucks were stuck. He stayed > up > on the ridge and let out his winch. First he pulled out one tow truck, > then the other, and finally the Pinto. Both the tow truck operators > were > so embarrassed. They had tried so hard to get out of the depression > they > had badly damaged their trucks on the rocks, tearing off their mufflers > and > doing body damage. It was late that night when all of us got home. Boy > > were we tired. And thank heaven for Fred and his old jeep. > Hey, I heard that one and I don't even know Fred. It was told by Harold B. Lee in about the same words: Harold B. Lee, Stand Ye In Holy Places, p.186 You cannot lift another soul until you are standing on higher ground than he is. You must be sure, if you would rescue the man, that you yourself are setting the example of what you would have him be. You cannot light a fire in another soul unless it is burning in your own soul. You teachers, the testimony that you bear, the spirit with which you teach and with which you lead, is one of the most important assets that you can have, as you help to strengthen those who need so much, wherein you have so much to give. Who of us, in whatever station we may have been in, have not needed strengthening? Tom > Did you ever hear that one, John? > > > John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === > "While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we > must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly, > soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding." (President > Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003) > === > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR > "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Old Jeeps
Steven Montgomery wrote: I agree. I still have several Handyman jacks. But, in the particular "bind" I was in, since I was at the pinnacle of a very narrow steep ridge, I didn't have anyplace to put the jack, it wouldn't "hold" no matter where I put it or tried to brace it, so--I broke down and paid $50.00 to have a tow truck nudge me just enough to get me off. John English told of a jeep that belonged to a friend of ours, Fred Evans, that we cruised the deserts with around El Paso when we were young. But I have a story about Fred and his jeep that John may never have heard: On the 4th of July in 1973 I went out to Kilbourne Hole northwest of El Paso with my roommate Don Riding in his little Ford Pinto. It was about 105 degrees in the shade. Well, we got stuck in some soft sand in a dry creek bottom on the road, and we had to walk out, a really terrifying experience because so many die of dehydration in the same situation. We finally came to a deep well farm, and telephoned for a tow truck. The tow truck got stuck trying to pull us out. Then a second tow truck got stuck trying to pull out the first tow truck. Finally, we called Fred who brought his old WWII jeep out. Fred had better sense than to get down into the depression where the pinto and two tow trucks were stuck. He stayed up on the ridge and let out his winch. First he pulled out one tow truck, then the other, and finally the Pinto. Both the tow truck operators were so embarrassed. They had tried so hard to get out of the depression they had badly damaged their trucks on the rocks, tearing off their mufflers and doing body damage. It was late that night when all of us got home. Boy were we tired. And thank heaven for Fred and his old jeep. Did you ever hear that one, John? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === "While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly, soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding." (President Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^