[zones-discuss] Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V Lightning)

2006-08-04 Thread Pierre Klovsjo
Greetings people,

I was wondering if anyone here have some experience with mpxio and a storage 
array from a non-global zone? 

Today we are using Veritas for doing all kinds of magic with both disks and the 
array but with the arrival of ZFS, Zones etc we are now looking into the 
possibilities of migrating a few servers into a 'bigger' server with ZFS and 
Zones.

What is the best way of installing a Zone? By sharing file systems as in 
'sparse-root' model or use 'whole-root' model ? 

As i understand things. Solaris 10 has mpxio sort of 'on' by default. Is this 
only for the Global Zone itself or can i 'disable' this and use it only for 
let's say 2 non-global zones? 

What i need to accomplish/be sure of is, 
1, Load balancing 
2, Failover by using 2 paths to the array from 2 configured Zones.
3, ..

Regards,

Pierre
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V Lightning)

2006-08-04 Thread Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer



Pierre Klovsjo wrote:


Greetings people,

I was wondering if anyone here have some experience with mpxio and a storage array from a non-global zone? 


Today we are using Veritas for doing all kinds of magic with both disks and the 
array but with the arrival of ZFS, Zones etc we are now looking into the 
possibilities of migrating a few servers into a 'bigger' server with ZFS and 
Zones.


If you can get away with it sparse root is most definitely better.
1 Less maintenance overhead ( shared filesystems between global and 
non-global zones )

2 Less disk space consumed.
3 Lower memory useage, as the shared libraries are on shared file 
system, they are only loaded once in memory for both global and 
non-global  zones. ( if you have a local copy of /usr/lib then all the 
shared libs in /usr/lib taht you reference, will have to get loaded into 
memory for the zone as well )
4 Tools such as patchadd/pkgadd etc all run slightly faster, ( not 
having to install objects to filesystems that are shared )


In saying that, the answer kinda depends on what you are doing with the 
non-global zones, if you are installing software that has to write to 
/usr for instance then you are limited to having /usr writable at a minimum.


But if at all possible go with sparse-root zones.

Enda



What is the best way of installing a Zone? By sharing file systems as in 'sparse-root' model or use 'whole-root' model ? 

As i understand things. Solaris 10 has mpxio sort of 'on' by default. Is this only for the Global Zone itself or can i 'disable' this and use it only for let's say 2 non-global zones? 

What i need to accomplish/be sure of is, 
1, Load balancing 
2, Failover by using 2 paths to the array from 2 configured Zones.

3, ..

Regards,

Pierre


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[zones-discuss] Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Doug Scott
 Hello and thanks a lot for quick answers.
 
 By looking at your answer it looks like we are going
 to go for spare-root model.
 
 So, then to my second question which is actually
 something more of a design question i think... 
 
 1, I let's say i have my Main server running with a
 HBA card attached to a Disk Array (same as mentioned
 in my earlier question). I create and mount a nice
 disk 'pool' with ZFS and everything is working
 perfect.

create a zfs filesystem in the global zone for the zone. Something like

$ zfs create mypool/export/zones/zone1
$ mkdir -p /export/zones/zone1
$ zfs set mountpoint=/export/zones/zone1 mypool/export/zones/zone1

With zonecfg set your zonepath=/export/zones/zone1


 
 2, I now create ZONE1. I would then like to mount a
 /export/home/ftp area on the Disk Array to use as
 well. Now, What is controlling my access to the HBA
 card and Disk Array from my Non-Global zone? How do i
 see my newly created /dev/dsk/... on the Array? Do i
 have to install the same driver into the non-global
 zone as i did to the Server itself or? 

The easiest way is -
$ touch /reconfigure
$ init 6

After the reboot in theory you should see your new device. By memory, you 
should be able to use  the luxadm command to see the failover paths. Are you 
able to do a reboot?? There are a few more commands you need if you can not. I 
am assuming the server is currently not production :)

You should mount /export/home/ftp on your global zone (using ZFS), and then 
define it as a mount point using zonecfg for each of your zones.

 
 I hope i have succeded in making some sense here
 since this is bugging me and my Manager a little now.

I will all look easy and logical once you have done it once.

Doug
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Christine Tran



Doug Scott wrote On 08/04/06 11:42,:


create a zfs filesystem in the global zone for the zone. Something like

$ zfs create mypool/export/zones/zone1
$ mkdir -p /export/zones/zone1
$ zfs set mountpoint=/export/zones/zone1 mypool/export/zones/zone1

With zonecfg set your zonepath=/export/zones/zone1


Wait a sec, this doc is pretty unequivocal about doing this:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592/6mhahuous?a=view

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches]

2006-08-04 Thread Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer




Hi
I guess the problem is that David is using smpatch (our automated patching
system )
So in theory he is up to date on his patches
( he has since removed 
122660-02 
 
122658-02
 
 122640-05
)

So when I install the following onto a system ( SPARC S10 FCS ) with two
zones already running:
119254-25 ( patchutilties patch )
119578-26
118822-30
118833-18
122650-02
122640-05
And reboot, I too have the same issue, there is no /dev/zfs in my local zones?

# zonename
global
# 
# cat /etc/release
 Solaris 10 1/06 s10s_u1wos_19a SPARC
 
# ls /var/sadm/patch
118822-30 119254-26 120900-04 122640-05
118833-18 119578-26 121133-02 122650-02
# uptime
 5:48pm up 2 min(s), 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.29, 0.11
# ls /export/zones/sparse-1/dev/zfs
/export/zones/sparse-1/dev/zfs: No such file or directory
# zlogin sparse-1 ls /dev/zfs
/dev/zfs: No such file or directory
# 
I rebooted the zone and then the system, touching /reconfigure, all to no
avail
I then added the rest of the patches you suggested and rebooted my zones
and I had /dev/zfs, strange.

But David had all the patches added and still did not get /dev/zfs in the
non global zones
Enda


George Wilson wrote:
Apologies for
the internal URL, I'm including the list of patches for  the everyone's benefit: 
  
 
 
sparc Patches 
 * ZFS Patches 
 o 118833-17 SunOS 5.10: kernel patch 
 o 118925-02 SunOS 5.10: unistd header file patch 
 o 119578-20 SunOS 5.10: FMA Patch 
 o 119982-05 SunOS 5.10: ufsboot patch 
 o 120986-04 SunOS 5.10: mkfs and newfs patch 
 o 122172-06 SunOS 5.10: swap swapadd isaexec patch 
 o 122174-03 SunOS 5.10: dumpadm patch 
 o 122637-01 SunOS 5.10: zonename patch 
 o 122640-05 SunOS 5.10: zfs genesis patch 
 o 122644-01 SunOS 5.10: zfs header file patch 
 o 122646-01 SunOS 5.10: zlogin patch 
 o 122650-02 SunOS 5.10: zfs tools patch 
 o 122652-03 SunOS 5.10: zfs utilities patch 
 o 122658-02 SunOS 5.10: zonecfg patch 
 o 122660-03 SunOS 5.10: zoneadm zoneadmd patch 
 o 122662-02 SunOS 5.10: libzonecfg patch 
 * Man Pages 
 o 119246-15 SunOS 5.10: Manual Page updates for Solaris 10 
 * Other Patches 
 o 119986-03 SunOS 5.10: clri patch 
 o 123358-01 SunOS 5.10: jumpstart and live upgrade compliance 
 o 121430-11 SunOS 5.8 5.9 5.10: Live Upgrade Patch 
 
i386 Patches 
 * ZFS Patches 
 o 118344-11 SunOS 5.10_x86: Fault Manager Patch 
 o 118855-15 SunOS 5.10_x86: kernel patch 
 o 118919-16 SunOS 5.10_x86: Solaris Crypto Framework patch 
 o 120987-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: mkfs, newfs, other ufs utils patch 
 o 122173-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: swap swapadd patch 
 o 122175-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: dumpadm patch 
 o 122638-01 SunOS 5.10_x86: zonename patch 
 o 122641-06 SunOS 5.10_x86: zfs genesis patch 
 o 122647-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: zlogin patch 
 o 122653-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: utilities patch 
 o 122659-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: zonecfg patch 
 o 122661-02 SunOS 5.10_x86: zoneadm patch 
 o 122663-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: libzonecfg patch 
 o 122665-02 SunOS 5.10_x86: rnode.h/systm.h/zone.h header file 
 * Man Pages 
 o 119247-15 SunOS 5.10_x86: Manual Page updates for Solaris 10 
 * Other Patches 
 o 118997-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: format patch 
 o 119987-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: clri patch 
 o 122655-05 SunOS 5.10_x86: jumpstart and live upgrade  compliance
patch 
 o 121431-11 SunOS 5.8_x86 5.9_x86 5.10_x86: Live Upgrade Patch 
 
 
Thanks, 
George 
 
 
George Wilson wrote: 
  Dave, 
 
I'm copying the zfs-discuss alias on this as well... 
 
It's possible that not all necessary patches have been installed or they
 maybe hitting CR# 6428258. If you reboot the zone does it continue to  end
up in maintenance mode? Also do you know if the necessary ZFS/Zones  patches
have been updated? 
 
Take a look at our webpage which includes the patch list required for  Solaris
10: 
 
http://rpe.sfbay/bin/view/Tech/ZFS 
 
Thanks, 
George 
 
Mahesh Siddheshwar wrote: 
 
 
 Original Message  
Subject: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches 
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:47:46 -0400 
From: Dave Bevans [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 
 
 
Hi, 
 
I have a customer with the following problem. 
 
He has a V440 running Solaris 10 1/06 with zones. In the case notes he  says
that he installed a couple Sol 10 patches and now he has problems  booting
his zones. After doing some checking he found that it appears  to be related
to a couple of ZFS patches (122650 and 122640). I found  a bug (6271309
/ lack of zvol breaks all ZFS commands), but not sure  if it applies to this
situation. Any ideas on this. 
 
Here is the customers problem description... 
 
Hardware Platform: Sun Fire V440 
Component Affected: OS Base 
OS and Kernel Version: SunOS snb-fton-bck2 5.10 Generic_118833-18  sun4u
sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V440 
 
Describe the problem: Patch 122650-02 combined with patch 122640-05  seems
to have broken no global zones at boot time. I'm just guessing  at the exact
patches since they were both added recently, and involve  

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches]

2006-08-04 Thread Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer






Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer wrote:

  
   Hi
 I guess the problem is that David is using smpatch (our automated patching 
system )
 So in theory he is up to date on his patches
 ( he has since removed 
 122660-02
 

  122658-02
  
  122640-05
 )
 
 So when I install the following onto a system ( SPARC S10 FCS ) with two 
zones already running:
typo should be update 10 1/06 not FCS

 119254-25 ( patchutilties patch )
 119578-26
 118822-30
 118833-18
 122650-02
 122640-05
 And reboot, I too have the same issue, there is no /dev/zfs in my local
zones?
 
 # zonename
 global
 # 
 # cat /etc/release
  Solaris 10 1/06 s10s_u1wos_19a SPARC
  
 # ls /var/sadm/patch
 118822-30 119254-26 120900-04 122640-05
 118833-18 119578-26 121133-02 122650-02
 # uptime
  5:48pm up 2 min(s), 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.29, 0.11
 # ls /export/zones/sparse-1/dev/zfs
 /export/zones/sparse-1/dev/zfs: No such file or directory
 # zlogin sparse-1 ls /dev/zfs
 /dev/zfs: No such file or directory
 # 
 I rebooted the zone and then the system, touching /reconfigure, all to no 
avail
 I then added the rest of the patches you suggested and rebooted my zones 
and I had /dev/zfs, strange.
 
 But David had all the patches added and still did not get /dev/zfs in the 
non global zones
 Enda
 
 
 George Wilson wrote:
 
  Apologies for 
the internal URL, I'm including the list of patches for  the everyone's benefit:
   
  
  
 sparc Patches 
  * ZFS Patches 
  o 118833-17 SunOS 5.10: kernel patch 
  o 118925-02 SunOS 5.10: unistd header file patch 
  o 119578-20 SunOS 5.10: FMA Patch 
  o 119982-05 SunOS 5.10: ufsboot patch 
  o 120986-04 SunOS 5.10: mkfs and newfs patch 
  o 122172-06 SunOS 5.10: swap swapadd isaexec patch 
  o 122174-03 SunOS 5.10: dumpadm patch 
  o 122637-01 SunOS 5.10: zonename patch 
  o 122640-05 SunOS 5.10: zfs genesis patch 
  o 122644-01 SunOS 5.10: zfs header file patch 
  o 122646-01 SunOS 5.10: zlogin patch 
  o 122650-02 SunOS 5.10: zfs tools patch 
  o 122652-03 SunOS 5.10: zfs utilities patch 
  o 122658-02 SunOS 5.10: zonecfg patch 
  o 122660-03 SunOS 5.10: zoneadm zoneadmd patch 
  o 122662-02 SunOS 5.10: libzonecfg patch 
  * Man Pages 
  o 119246-15 SunOS 5.10: Manual Page updates for Solaris 10 
  * Other Patches 
  o 119986-03 SunOS 5.10: clri patch 
  o 123358-01 SunOS 5.10: jumpstart and live upgrade compliance

  o 121430-11 SunOS 5.8 5.9 5.10: Live Upgrade Patch 
  
 i386 Patches 
  * ZFS Patches 
  o 118344-11 SunOS 5.10_x86: Fault Manager Patch 
  o 118855-15 SunOS 5.10_x86: kernel patch 
  o 118919-16 SunOS 5.10_x86: Solaris Crypto Framework patch 
  o 120987-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: mkfs, newfs, other ufs utils patch

  o 122173-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: swap swapadd patch 
  o 122175-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: dumpadm patch 
  o 122638-01 SunOS 5.10_x86: zonename patch 
  o 122641-06 SunOS 5.10_x86: zfs genesis patch 
  o 122647-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: zlogin patch 
  o 122653-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: utilities patch 
  o 122659-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: zonecfg patch 
  o 122661-02 SunOS 5.10_x86: zoneadm patch 
  o 122663-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: libzonecfg patch 
  o 122665-02 SunOS 5.10_x86: rnode.h/systm.h/zone.h header file

  * Man Pages 
  o 119247-15 SunOS 5.10_x86: Manual Page updates for Solaris 10

  * Other Patches 
  o 118997-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: format patch 
  o 119987-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: clri patch 
  o 122655-05 SunOS 5.10_x86: jumpstart and live upgrade  compliance 
patch 
  o 121431-11 SunOS 5.8_x86 5.9_x86 5.10_x86: Live Upgrade Patch

  
  
 Thanks, 
 George 
  
  
 George Wilson wrote: 
   
Dave, 
  
 I'm copying the zfs-discuss alias on this as well... 
  
 It's possible that not all necessary patches have been installed or they 
 maybe hitting CR# 6428258. If you reboot the zone does it continue to  end 
up in maintenance mode? Also do you know if the necessary ZFS/Zones  patches 
have been updated? 
  
 Take a look at our webpage which includes the patch list required for  Solaris 
10: 
  
 http://rpe.sfbay/bin/view/Tech/ZFS
  
  
 Thanks, 
 George 
  
 Mahesh Siddheshwar wrote: 
 
   
  
  Original Message  
 Subject: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches

 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:47:46 -0400 
 From: Dave Bevans [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org,
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  
 Hi, 
  
 I have a customer with the following problem. 
  
 He has a V440 running Solaris 10 1/06 with zones. In the case notes he 
says that he installed a couple Sol 10 patches and now he has problems  booting 
his zones. After doing some checking he found that it appears  to be related 
to a couple of ZFS patches (122650 and 122640). I found  a bug (6271309 /
lack of zvol breaks all ZFS commands), but not sure  if it applies to this 
situation. Any ideas on this. 
  
 Here is the customers problem description... 
  
 Hardware Platform: Sun Fire V440 
 Component 

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches]

2006-08-04 Thread Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer




Hi
I logged CR 6457216 to track this for now.


Enda

Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer wrote:

  
   
 
 Enda o'Connor - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer wrote:
 
  

   Hi
  I guess the problem is that David is using smpatch (our automated patching
 system )
  So in theory he is up to date on his patches
  ( he has since removed 
  122660-02 

 
122658-02
   
   122640-05
  )
  
  So when I install the following onto a system ( SPARC S10 FCS ) with two
 zones already running:
 typo should be update 10 1/06 not FCS
 
  
  119254-25 ( patchutilties patch )
  119578-26
  118822-30
  118833-18
  122650-02
  122640-05
  And reboot, I too have the same issue, there is no /dev/zfs in my local 
zones?
  
  # zonename
  global
  # 
  # cat /etc/release
   Solaris 10 1/06 s10s_u1wos_19a SPARC
   
  # ls /var/sadm/patch
  118822-30 119254-26 120900-04 122640-05
  118833-18 119578-26 121133-02 122650-02
  # uptime
   5:48pm up 2 min(s), 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.29, 0.11
  # ls /export/zones/sparse-1/dev/zfs
  /export/zones/sparse-1/dev/zfs: No such file or directory
  # zlogin sparse-1 ls /dev/zfs
  /dev/zfs: No such file or directory
  # 
  I rebooted the zone and then the system, touching /reconfigure, all to
no  avail
  I then added the rest of the patches you suggested and rebooted my zones
 and I had /dev/zfs, strange.
  
  But David had all the patches added and still did not get /dev/zfs in the
 non global zones
  Enda
  
  
  George Wilson wrote:
 
Apologies
for  the internal URL, I'm including the list of patches for  the everyone's
benefit:
   
   
  sparc Patches 
   * ZFS Patches 
   o 118833-17 SunOS 5.10: kernel patch 
   o 118925-02 SunOS 5.10: unistd header file patch 
   o 119578-20 SunOS 5.10: FMA Patch 
   o 119982-05 SunOS 5.10: ufsboot patch 
   o 120986-04 SunOS 5.10: mkfs and newfs patch 
   o 122172-06 SunOS 5.10: swap swapadd isaexec patch 
   o 122174-03 SunOS 5.10: dumpadm patch 
   o 122637-01 SunOS 5.10: zonename patch 
   o 122640-05 SunOS 5.10: zfs genesis patch 
   o 122644-01 SunOS 5.10: zfs header file patch 
   o 122646-01 SunOS 5.10: zlogin patch 
   o 122650-02 SunOS 5.10: zfs tools patch 
   o 122652-03 SunOS 5.10: zfs utilities patch 
   o 122658-02 SunOS 5.10: zonecfg patch 
   o 122660-03 SunOS 5.10: zoneadm zoneadmd patch 
   o 122662-02 SunOS 5.10: libzonecfg patch 
   * Man Pages 
   o 119246-15 SunOS 5.10: Manual Page updates for Solaris 10 
   * Other Patches 
   o 119986-03 SunOS 5.10: clri patch 
   o 123358-01 SunOS 5.10: jumpstart and live upgrade compliance 

   o 121430-11 SunOS 5.8 5.9 5.10: Live Upgrade Patch 
   
  i386 Patches 
   * ZFS Patches 
   o 118344-11 SunOS 5.10_x86: Fault Manager Patch 
   o 118855-15 SunOS 5.10_x86: kernel patch 
   o 118919-16 SunOS 5.10_x86: Solaris Crypto Framework patch 
   o 120987-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: mkfs, newfs, other ufs utils patch 

   o 122173-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: swap swapadd patch 
   o 122175-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: dumpadm patch 
   o 122638-01 SunOS 5.10_x86: zonename patch 
   o 122641-06 SunOS 5.10_x86: zfs genesis patch 
   o 122647-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: zlogin patch 
   o 122653-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: utilities patch 
   o 122659-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: zonecfg patch 
   o 122661-02 SunOS 5.10_x86: zoneadm patch 
   o 122663-04 SunOS 5.10_x86: libzonecfg patch 
   o 122665-02 SunOS 5.10_x86: rnode.h/systm.h/zone.h header file 

   * Man Pages 
   o 119247-15 SunOS 5.10_x86: Manual Page updates for Solaris 10 

   * Other Patches 
   o 118997-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: format patch 
   o 119987-03 SunOS 5.10_x86: clri patch 
   o 122655-05 SunOS 5.10_x86: jumpstart and live upgrade  compliance
 patch 
   o 121431-11 SunOS 5.8_x86 5.9_x86 5.10_x86: Live Upgrade Patch 

   
   
  Thanks, 
  George 
   
   
  George Wilson wrote: 
 
  Dave, 
   
  I'm copying the zfs-discuss alias on this as well... 
   
  It's possible that not all necessary patches have been installed or they
  maybe hitting CR# 6428258. If you reboot the zone does it continue to 
end  up in maintenance mode? Also do you know if the necessary ZFS/Zones
 patches  have been updated? 
   
  Take a look at our webpage which includes the patch list required for 
Solaris  10: 
   
  http://rpe.sfbay/bin/view/Tech/ZFS 
  
   
  Thanks, 
  George 
   
  Mahesh Siddheshwar wrote: 
 
 
   
   Original Message  
  Subject: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches 

  Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:47:46 -0400 
  From: Dave Bevans [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
   
   
   
  Hi, 
   
  I have a customer with the following problem. 
   
  He has a V440 running Solaris 10 1/06 with zones. In the case notes he
 says that he installed a couple Sol 10 patches and now he has problems 
booting  his zones. After doing some checking 

[zones-discuss] Re: Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Doug Scott
 
 
 Doug Scott wrote On 08/04/06 11:42,:
 
  create a zfs filesystem in the global zone for the
 zone. Something like
  
  $ zfs create mypool/export/zones/zone1
  $ mkdir -p /export/zones/zone1
  $ zfs set mountpoint=/export/zones/zone1
 mypool/export/zones/zone1
  
  With zonecfg set your zonepath=/export/zones/zone1
 
 Wait a sec, this doc is pretty unequivocal about
 doing this:
 http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592/6mhahuous?a=
 view

Hmmm, I have been doing this for a long time (though on nevada) with no 
problems. If this document is correct it looks like Sun has shot itself in the 
foot and released ZFS to Solaris 10 with a zery large bug. Is UFS safe???

Doug
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Jerry Jelinek

Doug Scott wrote:


Doug Scott wrote On 08/04/06 11:42,:


create a zfs filesystem in the global zone for the

zone. Something like

$ zfs create mypool/export/zones/zone1
$ mkdir -p /export/zones/zone1
$ zfs set mountpoint=/export/zones/zone1

mypool/export/zones/zone1

With zonecfg set your zonepath=/export/zones/zone1

Wait a sec, this doc is pretty unequivocal about
doing this:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592/6mhahuous?a=
view


Hmmm, I have been doing this for a long time (though on nevada) with no 
problems. If this document is correct it looks like Sun has shot itself in the 
foot and released ZFS to Solaris 10 with a zery large bug. Is UFS safe???


For some reason the url provided does not seem to bring up
any specific section in the doc for me, so I am not sure
which section is being referenced.

Although you can put a zone on a zfs filesystem, we currently
caution against this because the upgrade support
is not available yet.  If you do this on S10u2, you won't be
able to upgrade to S10u3.  There is also an issue with how
space is calculated for installing patches when the zone is
on zfs.  We have this on the list of things to work on, but I
am not sure when it will finally be done.  In the meantime, you
have to be careful about this kind of configuration.  We do have
code already available in opensolaris which will automatically
create this kind of configuration.  It has not yet be backported
to S10 because of the these issues though.

I am not sure what the comment about 'ufs not being safe' means.

Jerry
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[zones-discuss] Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Doug Scott
Pierre,
OK from the shotgun of replies :), we have worked out there maybe some 
ZFS/zones upgrade issues for Sol10. Does this stop you from doing what you want 
to do? 

If you need to upgrade with the zones in place, then you might want to wait for 
a later Solaris release, or is the work around uninstall zone, upgrade, 
reinstall zone ok for you? 

The other option would be to put your zones on UFS, and mount /export/home/ftp 
on ZFS.

Doug
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Jeff Victor



Pierre Klovsjo wrote:

Hello and thanks a lot for quick answers.

By looking at your answer it looks like we are going to go for spare-root
model.

So, then to my second question which is actually something more of a design
question i think...

1, I let's say i have my Main server running with a HBA card attached to a Disk
Array (same as mentioned in my earlier question). I create and mount a nice
disk 'pool' with ZFS and everything is working perfect.


Given the aforementioned limitations regarding zones and ZFS: will Zones and 
UFS/SVM work for you?



2, I now create ZONE1. I would then like to mount a /export/home/ftp area on
the Disk Array to use as well. Now, What is controlling my access to the HBA
card and Disk Array from my Non-Global zone? How do i see my newly created
/dev/dsk/... on the Array? Do i have to install the same driver into the
non-global zone as i did to the Server itself or?


I don't understand all of what you are trying to do yet, but here are some 
guidelines and specific questions:


1) The Solaris kernel (including device drivers) controls access to the HBA, 
regardless of the existence of zones.


2) In general, Traffic Manager (MPxIO) should be managed from the global zone.  A 
zone can be assigned individual access to a file system which is benefitting from 
Traffic Manager.  In that case, the zone benefits from TM without even knowing it 
is there.


3) Does your application need direct device access, e.g. access to /dev/dsk/...?


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