[Zope-Checkins] CVS: Zope/lib/python/nt_svcutils - service.py:1.1.2.6
Update of /cvs-repository/Zope/lib/python/nt_svcutils In directory cvs.zope.org:/tmp/cvs-serv5742/lib/python/nt_svcutils Modified Files: Tag: Zope-2_7-branch service.py Log Message: Shut down cleanly when Windows is shutting down. === Zope/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py 1.1.2.5 = 1.1.2.6 === --- Zope/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py:1.1.2.5 Wed Jun 8 11:33:21 2005 +++ Zope/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py Mon Jun 20 16:43:37 2005 @@ -85,6 +85,11 @@ # Set the stop event - the main loop takes care of termination. win32event.SetEvent(self.hWaitStop) +# SvcStop only gets triggered when the user explictly stops (or restarts) +# the service. To shut the service down cleanly when Windows is shutting +# down, we also need to hook SvcShutdown. +SvcShutdown = SvcStop + def onStop(self): # A hook for subclasses to override pass ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py Port from 2.7 branch.
Log message for revision 30868: Port from 2.7 branch. Shut down cleanly when Windows is shutting down. Changed: U Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py -=- Modified: Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py === --- Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py 2005-06-20 19:52:19 UTC (rev 30867) +++ Zope/branches/Zope-2_8-branch/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py 2005-06-20 20:46:59 UTC (rev 30868) @@ -85,6 +85,11 @@ # Set the stop event - the main loop takes care of termination. win32event.SetEvent(self.hWaitStop) +# SvcStop only gets triggered when the user explictly stops (or restarts) +# the service. To shut the service down cleanly when Windows is shutting +# down, we also need to hook SvcShutdown. +SvcShutdown = SvcStop + def onStop(self): # A hook for subclasses to override pass ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py Merge rev 30868 from 2.8 branch.
Log message for revision 30869: Merge rev 30868 from 2.8 branch. Port from 2.7 branch. Shut down cleanly when Windows is shutting down. Changed: U Zope/trunk/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py === --- Zope/trunk/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py2005-06-20 20:46:59 UTC (rev 30868) +++ Zope/trunk/lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py2005-06-20 20:49:44 UTC (rev 30869) @@ -85,6 +85,11 @@ # Set the stop event - the main loop takes care of termination. win32event.SetEvent(self.hWaitStop) +# SvcStop only gets triggered when the user explictly stops (or restarts) +# the service. To shut the service down cleanly when Windows is shutting +# down, we also need to hook SvcShutdown. +SvcShutdown = SvcStop + def onStop(self): # A hook for subclasses to override pass ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Zope Corporation's Initial Reaction on the ZF Comments
Hadar Pedhazur wrote: [clarifications and opinions] Hey, I just wanted to chip in that: * I'm very happy a foundation has been announced. This is what I and others advocated for, starting in earnest after the castle sprint last year. This is a major step in the right direction. Thank you Zope Corporation! I also wish to thank Nuxeo in their active role in taking this further. Some points I think we all agree on: * We all agree that the Foundation should be vendor-neutral. Those of us in business, we're competing and cooperating at the same time, and the Foundation will need to be on the balance. * We all agree that the Foundation should be about more than just vendors. To those of us who are independent, the Foundation needs to listen to their voice as well, not just the vendors. We have extremely significant contributors in the community who are vendor neutral. I need to mention only the authors of the two Zope 3 books currently published. Now on a more personal note: * I am confident that Zope Corporation will do the right thing. Time and time again I've found that Zope Corporation does listen. Let's all not forget this. * From my perspective as a company co-owner: the Foundation should be vendor-friendly. We should accept that one of the reasons it exists is to help vendors sell Zope better. (its future is assured in a foundation with N members). This self interest is fine, as long as we can all cooperate in a fair way. (a state of self-interested cooperation is ideal, I'd say, in fact) * It's important for all parties involved to reach clarity about the relationship of the Zope Foundation with existing foundations and initiatives within the Zope community. We dont want uncertainty and confusion and we want to *stimulate* initiatives by the community. The community is after all one of our greatest resources. * From my perspective as a developer: I hope politics won't get into the way of development too much. We'll inevitably and necessarily have politics in the period leading up to the creation of the Foundation, to ensure everybody's interests are being looked after. We'll have some more after the Foundation has been formed. Let's try to stay out of the developers' hair. Many of them don't want to be involved in politics or cannot be on a personal basis as they work for a company. We don't want them worried or pressurized by all of this. Again, the community is one of our greatest resources. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 goals
Lennart Regebro wrote: OK, so becuase of the tomembased release schedule, let's not dicuss what goes in 2.9. let's discuss what features we found most urgent/desirable, so we can start working on that, like now. I think it's fine to discuss what we want to be in Zope 2.9. This way we can plan for it to actually be there. We just should realize that if nobody does the work in time, it won't actually be in there, but that should only get the pressure up. The hope is that a time-based schedule will actually speed up feature development, not slow it down. But you're right, work should start soon. This is also why I started the discussion now. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 goals
As I mentioned before, I'd like to see Christian's blob work make it into 2.9. So that's one feature. ;-) On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 09:55 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: OK, so becuase of the tomembased release schedule, let's not dicuss what goes in 2.9. let's discuss what features we found most urgent/desirable, so we can start working on that, like now. I think it's fine to discuss what we want to be in Zope 2.9. This way we can plan for it to actually be there. We just should realize that if nobody does the work in time, it won't actually be in there, but that should only get the pressure up. The hope is that a time-based schedule will actually speed up feature development, not slow it down. But you're right, work should start soon. This is also why I started the discussion now. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Zope Corporation's Initial Reaction on the ZF Comments
Hi everybody, Martin Faassen wrote: * I'm very happy a foundation has been announced. Me too, and I am grateful to Zope Corp. for that. * We all agree that the Foundation should be about more than just vendors [...] We have extremely significant contributors in the community [...] It makes sense to have also _users_ (people who use Zope but who doesn't contribute any code to the code base): we need help from the users to meet their needs. In my opinion Zope Corp. is company in which many people are very clever. * From my perspective as a company co-owner: the Foundation should be vendor-friendly. One of the reason that Zope Foundation exists is to support Zope vendors and other communities who use Zope as a technological basis (such as Plone, Nuxeo etc.) * It's important for all parties involved to reach clarity about the relationship of the Zope Foundation with existing foundations and initiatives within the Zope community. It's also important to define how existing foundations (such as Plone Foundation, for instance), may cooperate with Zope Foundation. Regards Piero Giuseppe Goletto ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZOBD and pointers
Hi All, As my ZODB data files become larger and larger I am looking at ways to make the structure of my objects more efficient. To simplify my question, suppose I have two different classes and both contain a list of a objects from a third class: class x has the attribute x.elements = [objects of class z] class y has the attribute y.elements = [objects of class z] As far as I understand python the lists x.elements and y.elements contain pointers to the z objects previously defined. What I wanted to know is how ZODB handles that (or maybe I should say: how pickle handles that) when saving to a file. Will the pointers be converted to a copy of the z class objects or will one copy of the z class objects be saved and than the x.elements and y.elements will still be a list of pointers? Thanks for the help, Yair -- Yair Benita Utrecht University The Netherlands ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZOBD and pointers
As far as I am aware, ZODB will store a list of pointers to the lists of z objects. What you should be careful of for efficient use of ZODB is that your list is stored in an efficient way, well if the list is updated often or long anyway. When you pack your ZODB does it take up a lot less space? If so it may be that a lot of space is being wasted storing the updated lists of object references. Unless you use a special PersistentList ZODB will have no choice but to store a new copy of the whole list when that list is modified. If you have long lists then this can be a big problem. The Persistent classes have special handling to make them more efficent. So instead of lists use PersistentLists and instead of dicts use BTrees, as these may be stored more efficiently in the ZODB. Also have a look at the analyze.py script to try and track down where the space is being used. My notes here may be helpful too http://zopelabs.com/cookbook/1114086617 Hope that helps, Laurence Yair Benita wrote: Hi All, As my ZODB data files become larger and larger I am looking at ways to make the structure of my objects more efficient. To simplify my question, suppose I have two different classes and both contain a list of a objects from a third class: class x has the attribute x.elements = [objects of class z] class y has the attribute y.elements = [objects of class z] As far as I understand python the lists x.elements and y.elements contain pointers to the z objects previously defined. What I wanted to know is how ZODB handles that (or maybe I should say: how pickle handles that) when saving to a file. Will the pointers be converted to a copy of the z class objects or will one copy of the z class objects be saved and than the x.elements and y.elements will still be a list of pointers? Thanks for the help, Yair ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZOBD and pointers
[Yair Benita] ... suppose I have two different classes and both contain a list of a objects from a third class: class x has the attribute x.elements = [objects of class z] class y has the attribute y.elements = [objects of class z] As far as I understand python the lists x.elements and y.elements contain pointers to the z objects previously defined. Yes, Python lists always contain pointers -- even if it's a list of integers, the list actually contains pointers to integer objects. But since that's always true, it's not much help in answering your real question. In general, pointers make sense only so long as an object resides in memory. What I wanted to know is how ZODB handles that (or maybe I should say: how pickle handles that) when saving to a file. Will the pointers be converted to a copy of the z class objects or will one copy of the z class objects be saved and than the x.elements and y.elements will still be a list of pointers? Persistence has its own rules: if an object is persistent (an instance of a subclass of Persistent|), then its current state is stored uniquely in the database, and all references to it just save away (in effect) its persistent object id (oid, usually a 64-bit identifier uniquely assigned to each persistent object, and which retains its value for as long as the database exists). There are no exceptions to this for persistent objects. Oids are effectively a mechanism for building persistent pointers, and apply only to persistent objects. If an object is not persistent (is not an instance of a subclass of Persistent), it doesn't have an oid, and then there's very little possibility to share references to it on disk. Instead, on disk a copy of its state will usually get made everywhere it's referenced. So the answer to your specific question depends mostly on something you didn't reveal: does class z derive from Persistent? If it does, then _every_ reference on disk to an instance z1 is via z1's oid. If z doesn't derive from Perisistent, then almost all references on disk to an instance z1 will be via a physically distinct copy of z1's full state. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZOBD and pointers
[Laurence Rowe] ... Unless you use a special PersistentList ZODB will have no choice but to store a new copy of the whole list when that list is modified. Caution: that's true of a PersistentList too. The purpose of PersistentList isn't realy to supply more-effecient storage (that's the purpose of the various BTree classes). The purpose of PersistentList is this: myobject.my_list_attibute[3] = 4 If my_list_attribute is a plain Python list, the persistence machinery has no way to know that my_list_attribute's state mutated, so the assignment above will not get stored to disk at the next commit unless you _also_ do myobject._p_changed = True # or 1 If my_list_attribute is a PersistentList, then the persistence machinery does know when its state mutates, and there's no need to manage _p_changed manually. But in either case, the entire state of my_list_attribute gets stored to disk whenever any part of it changes. The only difference in what gets stored in the example above is that myobject's state also gets stored to disk if my_list_attribute is a Python list (assuming myobject._p_changed gets set to a true value by hand), while myobject's state does not need to get written to disk again if my_list_attribute is a PersistentList (then myobject refers to my_list_attribute via the latter's oid, and that oid hasn't changed, so there's no need to store myobject's state again). The entire state of the list attribute gets written out in either case. If you have long lists then this can be a big problem. Very true. The Persistent classes have special handling to make them more efficent. Sometimes true, but not in the PersistentList case. So instead of lists use PersistentLists If the goal is to save space, generally no, PersistentList won't help that; to the contrary, their state takes a little more space on disk than a plain list. and instead of dicts use BTrees, That one's differenent: a BTree is really a graph of (potentially _very_) many distinct perisistent objects, and BTrees were designed to support space- and time- efficient mutation. as these may be stored more efficiently in the ZODB. For BTrees, yes. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZOBD and pointers
As always. Clear, detailed and to the point. Thanks Tim. Actually, the z class isn't a subclass of persistent because it just holds data (has no methods) and never changes. Same goes to the lists of x and y, they tend to hold a few elements and also never change. The X and Y classes are more complex and are stored using BTrees. Reading this answer I understand that anything I store should be persistent, even if its a list I don't plan to edit. I was under the impression that a subclass of persistent will be larger in size for storage, so I avoided it in the cases mentioned. Is this true? Thanks again for the help, Yair On Jun 20, 2005, at 4:00 , Tim Peters wrote: [Yair Benita] ... suppose I have two different classes and both contain a list of a objects from a third class: class x has the attribute x.elements = [objects of class z] class y has the attribute y.elements = [objects of class z] As far as I understand python the lists x.elements and y.elements contain pointers to the z objects previously defined. Yes, Python lists always contain pointers -- even if it's a list of integers, the list actually contains pointers to integer objects. But since that's always true, it's not much help in answering your real question. In general, pointers make sense only so long as an object resides in memory. What I wanted to know is how ZODB handles that (or maybe I should say: how pickle handles that) when saving to a file. Will the pointers be converted to a copy of the z class objects or will one copy of the z class objects be saved and than the x.elements and y.elements will still be a list of pointers? Persistence has its own rules: if an object is persistent (an instance of a subclass of Persistent|), then its current state is stored uniquely in the database, and all references to it just save away (in effect) its persistent object id (oid, usually a 64-bit identifier uniquely assigned to each persistent object, and which retains its value for as long as the database exists). There are no exceptions to this for persistent objects. Oids are effectively a mechanism for building persistent pointers, and apply only to persistent objects. If an object is not persistent (is not an instance of a subclass of Persistent), it doesn't have an oid, and then there's very little possibility to share references to it on disk. Instead, on disk a copy of its state will usually get made everywhere it's referenced. So the answer to your specific question depends mostly on something you didn't reveal: does class z derive from Persistent? If it does, then _every_ reference on disk to an instance z1 is via z1's oid. If z doesn't derive from Perisistent, then almost all references on disk to an instance z1 will be via a physically distinct copy of z1's full state. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZOBD and pointers
[Yair Benita] ... Reading this answer I understand that anything I store should be persistent, even if its a list I don't plan to edit. I wouldn't say that. For example, for _most_ applications it would be foolish to create a subclass of Persistent to store an integer, as opposed to just storing an integer directly. I can conceive of (unlikely!) applications where there may be advantages to storing integers as perisistent objects, though. In the same vein, if there aren't multiple references to a single small list that doesn't change, there seems little (if any) point to making that a PersistentList. Note that there are other tradeoffs here too. For example, an attribute whose value is persistent is not loaded into RAM when its parent is loaded into RAM, but the full state of non-persistent attributes is loaded into RAM at the time their parent is loaded into RAM. That can have a major effect on time and memory demands, and in opposing directions. Or it may not -- it depends on details of the application's object access patterns. I was under the impression that a subclass of persistent will be larger in size for storage, so I avoided it in the cases mentioned. Is this true? Create a specific class definition, and it's easy to measure. It depends on the class. Certainly it costs more space to create a persistent version of a builtin Python type, and for the same reason it costs more space too to create any user-defined subclass of a builtin Python type. But for an object of a user-defined class, a persistent version takes more RAM when it's in memory (because it has to store info like the oid, and _p_changed, that non-persistent objects don't have), but the on-disk size is at worst roughly the same (e.g., the values of persistent attributes like _p_changed and _p_state don't get stored to disk, they only exist while the persistent object is in RAM). If I were you, I'd spend some quality time with fsdump, and figure out where the bulk of your space is going. Details matter more than general principles here. If you use the fsdump.py from ZODB 3.4 (which can be used with .fs files created by ZODB 3.1 and 3.2 too), it displays the byte size of data records, which can be a real help in such analysis. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZOBD and pointers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Peters wrote: [Yair Benita] ... Reading this answer I understand that anything I store should be persistent, even if its a list I don't plan to edit. I wouldn't say that. For example, for _most_ applications it would be foolish to create a subclass of Persistent to store an integer, as opposed to just storing an integer directly. I can conceive of (unlikely!) applications where there may be advantages to storing integers as perisistent objects, though. As, for instance, where the integer changes much more frequently than the other attributes, which are large enough that re-storing them just because the integer attribute changed is painful. Making the attribute a persistent sub-object also eliminates the chance of a ConflictError based on changes to the other attributes. This is the use case which drives BTrees.Length, right? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 202-558-7113 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCtw/D+gerLs4ltQ4RAnEqAJ9PKCCRriJR3Qt4AWrGCUGk1V6RFQCgxTEl 9waizE6T/pk8Tz/Tkul/4TA= =Uief -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] FW: [Zope-Annce] Zope Foundation ideas
FYI, for the few of you who may not actually listen to the bigger lists ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Page Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:54 PM To: zope@zope.org; zope-announce@zope.org Subject: [Zope-Annce] Zope Foundation ideas In preparation for tomorrow's IRC session (reminder/details below) we have prepared some initial ideas about the Zope Foundation. These are available online at: o http://tinyurl.com/74pd3 Note -- the document is written with phrases like the Foundation will, Contributors shall, etc. This is NOT to be interpreted as though these terms/conditions are predetermined. It is written to close in on specific language that avoids misinterpretation. Zope Foundation IRC Session --- IRC Session Summary: - Who: Zope Corp and Zope Community - What: IRC session to discuss the Zope Foundation - When: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10a - 12p (US EDT) - Where: irc.freenode.net #zope Please send specific questions to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope to see you there. Regards, Rob -- Rob PageV: 540.361.1710 Zope CorporationF: 703.995.0412 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data from devel to live?
hi, my problem is the following... imagine that you develop something for the customer using zope. while developing you use the ZMI a lot... to set some settings, to create python scripts and so on. you do this on the 'devel' server. then you deliver the solution to the customer (to the 'live' server). you can simply copy the data.fs stuff to the live server. after some time the either customer wants some new features, or there's a bug to fix or something like that. now you create the fix/improvement on the devel server. but now how do you move the improvement/fix to the live server? you cannot just copy the data.fs over. the customer already has some content/data in it... one way seems to be to not use the ZMI at all. you create an install python script, which calls the methods of the ZMI interface. this way works, but it seems for me to waste my time. finding the right method that the gui calls to call it from the install script seems stupid for me. but it solves the problem. with the script i can really make the changes i need on the devel server. so, is there a solution where i can use the ZMI? how do you solve this kind of problem? gabor ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data fro m devel to live?
You can manually export objects from your dev zope to individual files and then import them back to the live instance through ZMI. You could try this : http://zsyncer.sourceforge.net/ It will enable you, for built-in Zope object types (but then you can extend it with your own types) to list the differences between your dev and live zope instances and deploy your changes. Pascal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de gabor Envoyé : lundi 20 juin 2005 08:35 À : zope@zope.org Objet : [Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data from devel to live? hi, my problem is the following... imagine that you develop something for the customer using zope. while developing you use the ZMI a lot... to set some settings, to create python scripts and so on. you do this on the 'devel' server. then you deliver the solution to the customer (to the 'live' server). you can simply copy the data.fs stuff to the live server. after some time the either customer wants some new features, or there's a bug to fix or something like that. now you create the fix/improvement on the devel server. but now how do you move the improvement/fix to the live server? you cannot just copy the data.fs over. the customer already has some content/data in it... one way seems to be to not use the ZMI at all. you create an install python script, which calls the methods of the ZMI interface. this way works, but it seems for me to waste my time. finding the right method that the gui calls to call it from the install script seems stupid for me. but it solves the problem. with the script i can really make the changes i need on the devel server. so, is there a solution where i can use the ZMI? how do you solve this kind of problem? gabor ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] automagic reindexing of objects
[ Dieter Maurer wrote:] Jürgen Herrmann wrote at 2005-6-17 14:19 +0200: i make heavy use of indexes in my extension classes. these all inherit from catalogpathaware, so i have to call object.reindex_object() on each changed instance. calling it from attribute getters/setters f.ex. is not a good idea, because changing 3 attributes will reindex the object 3 times. what i'd like to have is that such objects are reindexed automatically before comitting a transaction. is it possible? where should i start looking in the source, is there possibly a before_transaction_commit hook? It is impossible with ZODB 3.2 (unless you patch ZODB.Transaction.Transaction). ZODB 3.4 (which is used for Zope 2.8/3.1) has hooks that makes it possible. -- Dieter that's what i wanted to hear, thanks! i'll have a look at zope 2.8 immediately :) regards, juergen herrmann ___ XLhost.de - eXperts in Linux hosting Juergen Herrmann Weiherweg 10, 93051 Regensburg, Germany Fon: +49 (0)700 XLHOSTDE [0700 95467833] Fax: +49 (0)721 151 463027 ICQ: 27139974 - IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.XLhost.de ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data from devel to live?
On 20 Jun 2005, at 07:35, gabor wrote: now you create the fix/improvement on the devel server. but now how do you move the improvement/fix to the live server? you cannot just copy the data.fs over. the customer already has some content/data in it... one way seems to be to not use the ZMI at all. you create an install python script, which calls the methods of the ZMI interface. this way works, but it seems for me to waste my time. finding the right method that the gui calls to call it from the install script seems stupid for me. but it solves the problem. with the script i can really make the changes i need on the devel server. so, is there a solution where i can use the ZMI? how do you solve this kind of problem? The problem is that you develop using the ZMI. It's a bad pattern. Don't do it. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data from devel to live?
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 20 Jun 2005, at 07:35, gabor wrote: now you create the fix/improvement on the devel server. but now how do you move the improvement/fix to the live server? you cannot just copy the data.fs over. the customer already has some content/data in it... one way seems to be to not use the ZMI at all. you create an install python script, which calls the methods of the ZMI interface. this way works, but it seems for me to waste my time. finding the right method that the gui calls to call it from the install script seems stupid for me. but it solves the problem. with the script i can really make the changes i need on the devel server. so, is there a solution where i can use the ZMI? how do you solve this kind of problem? The problem is that you develop using the ZMI. It's a bad pattern. Don't do it. well, it's the opposite. i (our company) don't develop using the ZMI. i'm using an install script. so when we install our program, no gui editing is needed. but last week i've seen a presentation which used a CMS system called Typo3. and a guy showed us how he can build a CMS only with gui tools. it was very fast and effective. and then i thought.. wow, you can work sooo fast in typo3. and we're so slow to develop with zope (plone/cmf/whatever). and then i remembered. but wait, we don't use the gui tools (zmi) at all! maybe we should! an example: for the next version of the program, we decided to change an action what happens when you click on a TAB in the CMS. in gui, i would do it like this: go to the portal_actions object, find the correct tab, change the python-script associated to it. but we had to dig thru the source code, to find out how the ZMI does it, and follow the same process when we did it programmatically in the python install script. it took us let's say 4-5hours (partly because that part of the CMF was badly documented, and used a quite inconvenient way to handle that) compare that: 1minutes in the ZMI or 5hours in a python-script. which one is better? well, or let me ask the question a different way: if i should not use the ZMI, then why is it there? gabor ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data from devel to live?
On 20 Jun 2005, at 10:16, gabor wrote: well, or let me ask the question a different way: if i should not use the ZMI, then why is it there? The ZMI is great for maintenance tasks, but not great for software development. You already ran into the first issue, replicating changes to other machines. Then there is no way to apply sane software development techniques, like using version control software and developing in a team. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Passing parameters using DTML
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 05:39:23PM -0500, J Cameron Cooper wrote: I'm assuming the above line comes from a page template. You neglected to mention what the calling DTML looks like, but I *guess* that it was something like this: dtml-var some_template(parm='ABC') yes? no? This is what I have:- dtml-var expr=testlist(parm='myobjectname') I wish to get 'myobjectname' into this line in 'testlist' which is marked with * python:here.parse_file(file=context.**,sepr=',',clone=1) There must be a simple way of doing this, but I haven't come across an example of it and I've spent most of the day on it. Taking the options from my previous email and putting them together, you can say:: python:here.parse_file(file=getattr(context,options.parm),...) to get the attribute on the current context named 'myobjectname' or whatever else you provide as the 'parm' parameter on 'testlist'. Many thanks. I appreciate the help. I think I've incorporated your suggestion into the code below... html body span tal:define=opts python:here.parse_file(file=getattr(context,options.parm),sepr=',',clone=1) tal:block repeat=opt opts lia tal:content=python:opt[1] tal:attributes=href python:opt[0]/a/li /tal:block /span /body /html Unfortunately, when I try to use this expression dtml-var expr=testlist(parm='links') I get this Zope error:- Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: 'dict' object has no attribute 'parm' Can't help thinking it is a simple syntax error - missing bracker, quote etc... but just can't figure it out. --jcc -- Building Websites with Plone http://plonebook.packtpub.com/ Enfold Systems, LLC http://www.enfoldsystems.com -- John ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Graphical front end for Zope?
On 6/20/05, John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't suppose there is such a thing as a graphical front end for building Zope sites... I've just been trying out a Flash based product called SiteMaker http://www.moonfruit.com/ which made designing web pages a doddle. Just wish there was something which would simplify the building of a Zope site. Well, later version of CPS contains CPSSkins, which allows you to design your site graphically, and CPSTypeMaker, which allows you to create new types easily. Maybe that's something similar? -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] where is the appendix in the online book
i was searching for the same thing today, and i found it at: http://plone-book.agmweb.ca/ you have to chexk out each chapters errata, from there you have links to each chapters relavant scripts and links. a little tricky, huh ? hope to have been of some help, michi ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] ZODB error when trying to index object (Input/output error)
Hi
I get the following error when certain new objects are added into a
plone site - when archetypes tries to set the UID, it asks the catalog
for all unique values of the index UID. I;ve never had input/output
errors before from the ZODB. There's definitely enough space on the
drive and objects are added fine - it's just that the UID is then not
set, which breaks all sorts of Archetypes stuff. Any ideas how I can
hunt this one down?
Thanks,
Felix.
2005-06-20T13:15:26 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for 0x111310
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 597, in setstate
p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 689, in load
return self._load(oid, version, self._index, self._file)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 662, in _load
h = read(DATA_HDR_LEN)
IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error
--
2005-06-20T13:15:26 ERROR(200) Archetypes None
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /zope/global-products/Archetypes/Referenceable.py, line 69, in
_register
cid = archetype_tool.registerContent(self)
File /zope/global-products/Archetypes/ArchetypeTool.py, line 681, in
registerContent
cid = self._genId(object)
File /zope/global-products/Archetypes/ArchetypeTool.py, line 659, in _genId
keys = catalog.uniqueValuesFor('UID')
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/ZCatalog.py, line 562, in
uniqueValuesFor
return self._catalog.uniqueValuesFor(name)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Catalog.py, line 425, in
uniqueValuesFor
return self.getIndex(name).uniqueValues()
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py,
line 445, in uniqueValues
return tuple(self._index.keys())
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 597, in setstate
p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 689, in load
return self._load(oid, version, self._index, self._file)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 662, in _load
h = read(DATA_HDR_LEN)
IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error
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Re: [Zope] developing with zmi: how to move a patch from data fro m devel to live?
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:13:57AM +0200, Pascal Peregrina wrote: You can manually export objects from your dev zope to individual files and then import them back to the live instance through ZMI. You could try this : http://zsyncer.sourceforge.net/ It will enable you, for built-in Zope object types (but then you can extend it with your own types) to list the differences between your dev and live zope instances and deploy your changes. ... in a limited fashion, yes. However, it doesn't tell you anything about valuable metadata such as properties, security settings, etc. And if you sync a folderish object, zsyncer will necessarily sync all its sub-objects as well. But within those limitations, it's still pretty useful. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] custom_persist_obj
Hi, I am new to Zope and not a programmer. It is a little bit complex for me. I am very frustrated, as I can not find the solution for a pretty simple task: I would like to have persistent object with dictionaries. I think I do not need a ZClass or Product, just a simple object for holding mutable and persistent dictionaries (Manipulating with Script). Like MyObject: dict1 = [ a:1, b:1, c:1, ...] dict2 = [ a:2, d:4, e:6] etc. Thanks for your help in advance, Tamas ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] custom_persist_obj
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 05:12:29AM -0400, Tamas Hegedus wrote: Hi, I am new to Zope and not a programmer. It is a little bit complex for me. I am very frustrated, as I can not find the solution for a pretty simple task: I would like to have persistent object with dictionaries. I think I do not need a ZClass or Product, just a simple object for holding mutable and persistent dictionaries (Manipulating with Script). Like MyObject: dict1 = [ a:1, b:1, c:1, ...] dict2 = [ a:2, d:4, e:6] etc. Thanks for your help in advance, Tamas If you want a custom persistent object, you do indeed need to write a Product. But that needn't be complex. http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/minimal_01 -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] custom_persist_obj
You have a built-in Zope object for this : PersistentMapping.
dict1=PersistentMapping({'a':1,'b':1,'c':1, ...})
dict1=PersistentMapping({'a':2,'d':4,'e':6})
The only thing you can not do compared to dictionaries is :
for key in dict1:
do something
(you need to use for key in dict1.keys():...)
Pascal
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Objet : [Zope] custom_persist_obj
Hi,
I am new to Zope and not a programmer. It is a little bit complex for
me. I am very frustrated, as I can not find the solution for a pretty
simple task:
I would like to have persistent object with dictionaries.
I think I do not need a ZClass or Product, just a simple object for
holding mutable and persistent dictionaries (Manipulating with Script).
Like
MyObject:
dict1 = [ a:1, b:1, c:1, ...]
dict2 = [ a:2, d:4, e:6]
etc.
Thanks for your help in advance,
Tamas
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Re: [Zope] custom_persist_obj
Well, sure. But you need to write some unrestricted (i.e.
filesystem-based) code if you want to create instanced of
PersistentMapping and the like.
by the way, if it's ever going to get large, you might look
into using OOBTree instead of PersistentMapping.
See:
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/guide/node6.html#SECTION00063
-PW
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 03:24:12PM +0200, Pascal Peregrina wrote:
You have a built-in Zope object for this : PersistentMapping.
dict1=PersistentMapping({'a':1,'b':1,'c':1, ...})
dict1=PersistentMapping({'a':2,'d':4,'e':6})
The only thing you can not do compared to dictionaries is :
for key in dict1:
do something
(you need to use for key in dict1.keys():...)
Pascal
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Envoy? : lundi 20 juin 2005 11:12
? : zope@zope.org
Objet : [Zope] custom_persist_obj
Hi,
I am new to Zope and not a programmer. It is a little bit complex for
me. I am very frustrated, as I can not find the solution for a pretty
simple task:
I would like to have persistent object with dictionaries.
I think I do not need a ZClass or Product, just a simple object for
holding mutable and persistent dictionaries (Manipulating with Script).
Like
MyObject:
dict1 = [ a:1, b:1, c:1, ...]
dict2 = [ a:2, d:4, e:6]
etc.
Thanks for your help in advance,
Tamas
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Re: [Zope] Getting information about current method
Peter Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/17/05, Jan-Ole Esleben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an application instance wrapped in a list; it seems to be identical to self, actually - self.REQUEST['URL'] and self.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].REQUEST['URL'] are the same. However, the two REQUESTs are not the identical object (== returns False). Then I don't know. (The application instance is none other than zope itself. ) I can honestly not think of a way to extract this information. I've even tried setting up a simple example method and I couldn't get hold of the zodb name of the external method that is called. You can go the low-level route: Using the inspect module, you can get to the stack frames of your callers, and then inspect the local variables there. There must be one that can get you the information you want. See the docstrings of the functions in the inspect module for details. Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France) CTO, Director of RD +33 1 40 33 71 59 http://nuxeo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] automagic reindexing of objects
Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jürgen Herrmann wrote at 2005-6-17 14:19 +0200: i make heavy use of indexes in my extension classes. these all inherit from catalogpathaware, so i have to call object.reindex_object() on each changed instance. calling it from attribute getters/setters f.ex. is not a good idea, because changing 3 attributes will reindex the object 3 times. what i'd like to have is that such objects are reindexed automatically before comitting a transaction. is it possible? where should i start looking in the source, is there possibly a before_transaction_commit hook? It is impossible with ZODB 3.2 (unless you patch ZODB.Transaction.Transaction). The CPSCompat module of CPS has monkey-patches that backport this from ZODB 3.4, among others, to be used in Zope 2.7. http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/file/CPSCompat/trunk/PatchZODBTransaction.py Florent ZODB 3.4 (which is used for Zope 2.8/3.1) has hooks that makes it possible. -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France) CTO, Director of RD +33 1 40 33 71 59 http://nuxeo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Getting information about current method
Then I don't know. (The application instance is none other than zope itself. ) I can honestly not think of a way to extract this information. I've even tried setting up a simple example method and I couldn't get hold of the zodb name of the external method that is called. You can go the low-level route: Using the inspect module, you can get to the stack frames of your callers, and then inspect the local variables there. There must be one that can get you the information you want. We tried that but no luck. See the docstrings of the functions in the inspect module for details. Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France) CTO, Director of RD +33 1 40 33 71 59 http://nuxeo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: ZODB error when trying to index object (Input/output error)
Felix Ulrich-Oltean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
I get the following error when certain new objects are added into a
plone site - when archetypes tries to set the UID, it asks the catalog
for all unique values of the index UID. I;ve never had input/output
errors before from the ZODB. There's definitely enough space on the
drive and objects are added fine - it's just that the UID is then not
set, which breaks all sorts of Archetypes stuff. Any ideas how I can
hunt this one down?
Some further info:
I think I've found the culprits - there are 4 records which give errors like
this:
portal.portal_catalog.uncatalog_object('/sites/cw/data/urbanr')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/ZCatalog.py, line 558, in
uncatalog_object
self._catalog.uncatalogObject(uid)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Catalog.py, line 411, in
uncatalogObject
x.unindex_object(rid)
File
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/PathIndex/PathIndex.py,
line 138, in unindex_object
self._index[comp][level].remove(docid)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 597, in setstate
p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 689, in load
return self._load(oid, version, self._index, self._file)
File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 665, in _load
raise CorruptedDataError, h
ZODB.FileStorage.CorruptedDataError:
I'll try fsrecover on it.
Felix.
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[Zope] accessing session data error
Hi all:
I
think that I found a ZOPE bug. Is really very important for me know what can
I do for avoid it. The first 9 steps are to recreate the situation and the
other steps are to provoke the error.
Step 1: Crate a folder called "reproducingError" in Zope Interface
Manage
Step 2: create a page template called "index_html" in the "reproducingError"
folder with the following content:"!-- index_html page template
--form name="form1" method="post"
action="" input type="text"
name="user" input type="submit" name="Submit"
value="Submit"/form"
Step 3: create a python script called "init" in the "reproducingError"
folder with the following content:"# init scriptsessionData =
container.REQUEST.SESSIONsessionData.set("userId",
container.REQUEST.user)
return context.init2_html()"
Step 4: create a page template called "init2_html" in the "reproducingError"
folder with the following content:"!-- init2_html page template
--a href=""passing face 2/a"
Step 5: create a python script called "init2" in the "reproducingError"
folder with the following content:"# init2 scriptrequest =
context.REQUESTsessionData = request.SESSION
sessionData.set('idService', 'testService')
context.first()return context.external(context)"
Step 6: create a page template called "first_html" in the "reproducingError"
folder with the following content:"First Response"
Step 7: create a python script called "first" in the "reproducingError"
folder with the following content:"# first scriptresponse =
container.REQUEST.RESPONSEstr = container.first_html()
response.write(str)response.flush()"
Step 8: create an external method called "external" in the
"reproducingError" folder with the following content, in where the function
of the external method is "communicationResponse" and the module is any name
that you give to the file:"# external methodimport time
def communicationResponse(context):
response = context.REQUEST.RESPONSE
sessionData = context.REQUEST.SESSION strDetailEnd =
"scriptwindow.location='reproducingError/end'/script"
for item in range(1, 40):
time.sleep(3)
response.write("Response
iteration:" + str(item))
response.flush()
response.write(strDetailEnd)
response.flush()"
Step 9: create a python script called "end" in the "reproducingError" folder
with the following content:"# end scriptidService =
context.REQUEST.SESSION['idService']
return "Fin - " + idService"
Step 10: open two explorer in wich call the object "reproducingError"
(Example: localhost:8080/reproducingError)
Step 11: enter an example text in each one.
Step 12: clink in the link of one of them, and 5 second later clink on the
link of the other explorer. The waiting for around 5 second is necesary
because with other time interval not allways get the error.
Stpe 13: and wait the "Response iteration"... Please if the error
don't appear in any of the pages, begins at Step 9 again. and try to count
to 5 witch other velocity :)
The correct result is:"Fin - testService"
The error is:"
Site ErrorAn error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyErrorError Value: 'idService'"The traceback:
"Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line
101, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__ Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec Module
Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec Module
None, line 2, in end - PythonScript at
/approach/reproducingError/end - Line 2 Module
AccessControl.ZopeGuards, line 67, in guarded_getitem Module
Products.Transience.TransientObject, line 176, in __getitem__KeyError:
'idService'"
I
will appreciate if you try until the error appear, because I not always
obtain the error. I thinks that it is bacause the time interval between the
two request.
A
curious thing is that when I obtain the error, if I wait around 15 second
and refresh the page in wich i obtain the error, the correct result appear..
and no errors come.
Sorry for the extended message, but I need any help that you can give me,
because this describe error environment imitate a funcionality that I must
give in a system very import that i'm doing.
I'm using Zope 2.7.6 for Windows.
Thanks in advanced.
Leticia
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[Zope] ZMYSQLDA 2.0.9 lock problem
IE, Zope 2.7.6, Python 2.4.1, MYSQLDA 2.0.9 One of our developers is reporting a curious problem, which I have not been able to track down. It appears to be threading related, somewhere in the ZBMYSQLDB adaptor. The database connection string is bare of transaction indicators. The database is local. All tables are MyISAM which is non-transactioal. Unfortunately the user does not remember the exact sequence of events which generate the problem so I am unable to duplicate. What we do know is that the problem occurs at the beginning of a development session begun with a cold boot of the client machine and a fresh browser and it occurs once and only onece during the development session. The developer normally has two active Zope threads going--one working with the application and one working with the ZMI. He moves between them using the Open/View tab and other buttons. He reports that the first time he moves focus from the ZMI to the application, he gets the following error: --- Time 2005/06/20 07:12:03.478 GMT-7 User Name (User Id) (X) Request URL http://xxx..com/logged_in Exception Type error Exception Value release unlocked lock Traceback (innermost last): * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 107, in publish * Module Zope.App.startup, line 222, in commit * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 260, in commit * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 377, in _finish_many * Module Shared.DC.ZRDB.TM, line 59, in tpc_finish * Module Products.ZMySQLDA.db, line 376, in _finish error: release unlocked lock The lock being released is a transactional lock. None of our locks should be transactional locks, given our setup. I traced through the __init__() method for DB and did not see how transactional locking could be specified so the lock relaease code could run--I must be missing something. No thread in our system uses transactional locking as the tables do no support transactions. The logged_in method references the MySQL database in several places; a couple of them are compound queries where multiple queries are joined by dtml-var mysql_delimiter values. Many of our queries use this in combination with the use database name SQL query. The system is using ZODB filestorage (Data.fs) with ZEO and is pretty much out of the box. Has anyone else encountrered a similar problem. Any suggestions as to how to find this bug? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Problem with keep-alive timeout
I made a small and simple database applikation with some reports on a large database. But surprise, IE 6.0 (WinXP,SP2) is getting always a timeout after 60seconds, because IE communicates with Zope through the HTTP1.0-protocoll. My reports needing always 40s-120s, so is there someone that could give me a solution for this annoying timeout problem? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Problem with keep-alive timeout
I had a similar problem and solved it by having a cron job that runs in the background with wget. In my case was able to divid it up to run a little bit of the big report at a time. This way I'm now able to have a cron job happening every hour. On 6/20/05, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a small and simple database applikation with some reports on a large database. But surprise, IE 6.0 (WinXP,SP2) is getting always a timeout after 60seconds, because IE communicates with Zope through the HTTP1.0-protocoll. My reports needing always 40s-120s, so is there someone that could give me a solution for this annoying timeout problem? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi Leticia,
Thanks for the detailed bug report.
I have tried to replicate the bug as you indicate below but cannot.
I've gone through the process you describe ten times without errors (in
Zope 2.7.6).
If it's possible to simplify the steps to recreate the error, that would
be helpful in further debugging (for example, maybe just getting rid of
all the page templates and python scripts and just using a single
external method).
- C
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 14:20 -0400, Leticia Larrosa wrote:
Hi all:
I think that I found a ZOPE bug. Is really very important for me know
what can I do for avoid it. The first 9 steps are to recreate the
situation and the other steps are to provoke the error.
Step 1: Crate a folder called reproducingError in Zope Interface
Manage
Step 2: create a page template called index_html in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
!-- index_html page template --
form name=form1 method=post action=reproducingError/init
input type=text name=user
input type=submit name=Submit value=Submit
/form
Step 3: create a python script called init in the reproducingError
folder with the following content:
# init script
sessionData = container.REQUEST.SESSION
sessionData.set(userId, container.REQUEST.user)
return context.init2_html()
Step 4: create a page template called init2_html in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
!-- init2_html page template --
a href=init2passing face 2/a
Step 5: create a python script called init2 in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
# init2 script
request = context.REQUEST
sessionData = request.SESSION
sessionData.set('idService', 'testService')
context.first()
return context.external(context)
Step 6: create a page template called first_html in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
First Response
Step 7: create a python script called first in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
# first script
response = container.REQUEST.RESPONSE
str = container.first_html()
response.write(str)
response.flush()
Step 8: create an external method called external in the
reproducingError folder with the following content, in where the
function of the external method is communicationResponse and the
module is any name that you give to the file:
# external method
import time
def communicationResponse(context):
response = context.REQUEST.RESPONSE
sessionData = context.REQUEST.SESSION
strDetailEnd =
scriptwindow.location='reproducingError/end'/script
for item in range(1, 40):
time.sleep(3)
response.write(Response iteration: + str(item))
response.flush()
response.write(strDetailEnd)
response.flush()
Step 9: create a python script called end in the reproducingError
folder with the following content:
# end script
idService = context.REQUEST.SESSION['idService']
return Fin - + idService
Step 10: open two explorer in wich call the object
reproducingError (Example: localhost:8080/reproducingError)
Step 11: enter an example text in each one.
Step 12: clink in the link of one of them, and 5 second later clink on
the link of the other explorer. The waiting for around 5 second is
necesary because with other time interval not allways get the error.
Stpe 13: and wait the Response iteration... Please if the error
don't appear in any of the pages, begins at Step 9 again. and try to
count to 5 witch other velocity :)
The correct result is:
Fin - testService
The error is:
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyError
Error Value: 'idService'
The traceback:
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec
Module None, line 2, in end
- PythonScript at /approach/reproducingError/end
- Line 2
Module AccessControl.ZopeGuards, line 67, in guarded_getitem
Module Products.Transience.TransientObject, line 176, in __getitem__
KeyError: 'idService'
I will appreciate if you try until the error appear, because I not
always obtain the error. I thinks that it is bacause the time interval
between the two request.
A curious thing is that when I obtain the error, if I wait around 15
second and refresh the page in wich i obtain the error, the correct
result appear.. and no errors come.
Sorry for the extended message, but I need any help that you can give
me, because this describe error environment imitate a funcionality
that I must give in a system very import that i'm doing.
I'm using Zope 2.7.6 for Windows.
Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi:
Thanks for the rapid aswer of Chris McDonough. I will change the
steps to replicate the error (sorry for the large steps before :( , I thinks
that maybe was needful). Remember that the key of the error is the time
interval between the request. If with 5 seconds don't appear the
errortry to vary to other, like 7 seconds. The 5 first steps are to
create the situation and thesixth step are to provoke the
error
Step 1: Create a folder called "reproducingError" in Zope Interface
Manage
Step 2: Create a srcipt "end" with the content:
"
# end scriptidService = context.REQUEST.SESSION['idService']
return "Fin - " + idService"
Step 3: Create a script "index_html" with the content:
"
# init scriptsessionData = container.REQUEST.SESSION
sessionData.set("userId", "userExample")return context.init2()
"
Step 4: Create a script "init2" with the content:
"
# init2 scriptrequest = context.REQUESTsessionData =
request.SESSIONsessionData.set('idService', 'testService')return
context.external(context)
"
Step 5:create an external method called "external" in the
"reproducingError" folder with the following content, in where the
function of the external method is "communicationResponse" and the module is
any name that you give to the file:
"
# external methodimport time
def communicationResponse(context):
response = context.REQUEST.RESPONSE
sessionData = context.REQUEST.SESSION
strDetailEnd =
"scriptwindow.location='reproducingError/end'/script"
for item in range(1, 40):
time.sleep(3)
response.write("Response
iteration:" + str(item))
response.flush()
response.write(strDetailEnd)
response.flush()
"
Step 6: opentwo explorer
In one of them call the object "reproducingError" (Example:
localhost:8080/reproducingError), then wait 5 second and put in the other
the same direction.
And wait the iterations
Note: I count 5 second, not with chronometer. You can try
with a near number.
Chris: I reproduce the error with the steps. I can't reduce it to an
external method. Thanks again.
The error that I obtain is the same:
"
Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line
101, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__ Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec Module
Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec Module
None, line 2, in end - PythonScript at
/approach/reproducingError/end - Line 2 Module
AccessControl.ZopeGuards, line 67, in guarded_getitem Module
Products.Transience.TransientObject, line 176, in __getitem__KeyError:
'idService'
"
Remember:
A curious thing is that when I obtain the error, if I wait
around 15 second and refresh the page in wich i obtain the
error, the correct result appear.. and no errors come.
I'm using Zope 2.7.6 for Windows.
I must solve this, because this is part of my thesis for university
graduation. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Leticia Larrosa
-Original Message-From: Chris McDonough
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Leticia Larrosa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: zope@zope.orgDate: Mon, 20 Jun
2005 15:12:21 -0400Subject: Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi Leticia, Thanks for the detailed bug report.
I have tried to replicate the bug as you indicate below but
cannot. I've gone through the process you describe ten times without
errors (in Zope 2.7.6). If it's possible to
simplify the steps to recreate the error, that would be
helpful in further debugging (for example, maybe just getting rid of
all the page templates and python scripts and just using a single
external method). - C On Mon,
2005-06-20 at 14:20 -0400, Leticia Larrosa wrote: Hi all:
I think that I found a ZOPE bug. Is really
very important for me know what can I do for avoid it. The
first 9 steps are to recreate the situation and the other steps
are to provoke the error.Step 1: Crate a
folder called "reproducingError" in Zope Interface Manage
Step 2: create a page template called
"index_html" in the "reproducingError" folder with the
following content: " !-- index_html page
template -- form name="form1" method="post"
action="" input type="text"
name="user" input type="submit" name="Submit"
value="Submit" /form "
Step 3: create a python script called "init" in the
"reproducingError" folder with the following content:
" # init script sessionData =
container.REQUEST.SESSION sessionData.set("userId",
container.REQUEST.user) return context.init2_html()
"Step 4: create a page template
called "init2_html" in the "reproducingError" folder with the
following content: " !-- init2_html page
template -- a href=""passing face
2/a "Step 5: create a
python script called "init2" in the "reproducingError" folder
with the following content: " # init2 script
request = context.REQUEST sessionData =
request.SESSION
Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi:
I follow the steps to replicate the errorin zope2.7 for
Debian and i get the error to.
Thanks in advanced, Leticia
-Original
Message-From: "Leticia Larrosa"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Chris McDonough"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: zope@zope.orgDate: Mon, 20 Jun 2005
16:25:08 -0400Subject: Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi:
Thanks for the rapid aswer of Chris McDonough. I will change the
steps to replicate the error (sorry for the large steps before :( , I thinks
that maybe was needful). Remember that the key of the error is the time
interval between the request. If with 5 seconds don't appear the
errortry to vary to other, like 7 seconds. The 5 first steps are to
create the situation and thesixth step are to provoke the
error
Step 1: Create a folder called "reproducingError" in Zope Interface
Manage
Step 2: Create a srcipt "end" with the content:
"
# end scriptidService = context.REQUEST.SESSION['idService']
return "Fin - " + idService"
Step 3: Create a script "index_html" with the content:
"
# init scriptsessionData = container.REQUEST.SESSION
sessionData.set("userId", "userExample")return context.init2()
"
Step 4: Create a script "init2" with the content:
"
# init2 scriptrequest = context.REQUESTsessionData =
request.SESSIONsessionData.set('idService', 'testService')return
context.external(context)
"
Step 5:create an external method called "external" in the
"reproducingError" folder with the following content, in where the
function of the external method is "communicationResponse" and the module is
any name that you give to the file:
"
# external methodimport time
def communicationResponse(context):
response = context.REQUEST.RESPONSE
sessionData = context.REQUEST.SESSION
strDetailEnd =
"scriptwindow.location='reproducingError/end'/script"
for item in range(1, 40):
time.sleep(3)
response.write("Response
iteration:" + str(item))
response.flush()
response.write(strDetailEnd)
response.flush()
"
Step 6: opentwo explorer
In one of them call the object "reproducingError" (Example:
localhost:8080/reproducingError), then wait 5 second and put in the other
the same direction.
And wait the iterations
Note: I count 5 second, not with chronometer. You can try
with a near number.
Chris: I reproduce the error with the steps. I can't reduce it to an
external method. Thanks again.
The error that I obtain is the same:
"
Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line
101, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__ Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec Module
Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec Module
None, line 2, in end - PythonScript at
/approach/reproducingError/end - Line 2 Module
AccessControl.ZopeGuards, line 67, in guarded_getitem Module
Products.Transience.TransientObject, line 176, in __getitem__KeyError:
'idService'
"
Remember:
A curious thing is that when I obtain the error, if I wait
around 15 second and refresh the page in wich i obtain the
error, the correct result appear.. and no errors come.
I'm using Zope 2.7.6 for Windows.
I must solve this, because this is part of my thesis for university
graduation. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Leticia Larrosa
-Original Message-From: Chris McDonough
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Leticia Larrosa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: zope@zope.orgDate: Mon, 20 Jun
2005 15:12:21 -0400Subject: Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi Leticia, Thanks for the detailed bug report.
I have tried to replicate the bug as you indicate below but
cannot. I've gone through the process you describe ten times without
errors (in Zope 2.7.6). If it's possible to
simplify the steps to recreate the error, that would be
helpful in further debugging (for example, maybe just getting rid of
all the page templates and python scripts and just using a single
external method). - C On Mon,
2005-06-20 at 14:20 -0400, Leticia Larrosa wrote: Hi all:
I think that I found a ZOPE bug. Is really
very important for me know what can I do for avoid it. The
first 9 steps are to recreate the situation and the other steps
are to provoke the error.Step 1: Crate a
folder called "reproducingError" in Zope Interface Manage
Step 2: create a page template called
"index_html" in the "reproducingError" folder with the
following content: " !-- index_html page
template -- form name="form1" method="post"
action="" input type="text"
name="user" input type="submit" name="Submit"
value="Submit" /form "
Step 3: create a python script called "init" in the
"reproducingError" folder with the following content:
" # init script sessionData =
container.REQUEST.SESSION sessionData.set("userId",
container.REQUEST.user) return context.init2_html()
"Step 4: create a page template
called "init2_html" in the
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Re: [Zope] accessing session data error
Hi Leticia,
The mixture of ``response.write()`` including JavaScript to drive the
browser to a new location along with writing objects in ZODB all
within the same transaction can break some of the promises that you'd
normally expect Zope and a browser to keep.
My guess is that browser is being told to visit ``end`` before the
transaction started by ``init2`` has finished. Perhaps a conflict
error is causing that transaction to take longer than you expect.
Normally this would not trip you up as your browser does not see
anything until after the transaction has finished. (In this normal
mode you might see a conflict error rendered in the browser if the
publication machinery had to give up.)
For your example try breaking up ``init2`` into two scripts. The
first that writes the session data and then redirects the browser to
the second. The second then does not touch session data and manages
all the ``response.write()``s. And remove the unused ``sessionData =
context.REQUEST.SESSION`` from ``external``.
Cheers
Michael
On 21/06/2005, at 6:20 AM, Leticia Larrosa wrote:
Hi all:
I think that I found a ZOPE bug. Is really very important for me
know what can I do for avoid it. The first 9 steps are to recreate
the situation and the other steps are to provoke the error.
Step 1: Crate a folder called reproducingError in Zope Interface
Manage
Step 2: create a page template called index_html in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
!-- index_html page template --
form name=form1 method=post action=reproducingError/init
input type=text name=user
input type=submit name=Submit value=Submit
/form
Step 3: create a python script called init in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
# init script
sessionData = container.REQUEST.SESSION
sessionData.set(userId, container.REQUEST.user)
return context.init2_html()
Step 4: create a page template called init2_html in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
!-- init2_html page template --
a href=init2passing face 2/a
Step 5: create a python script called init2 in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
# init2 script
request = context.REQUEST
sessionData = request.SESSION
sessionData.set('idService', 'testService')
context.first()
return context.external(context)
Step 6: create a page template called first_html in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
First Response
Step 7: create a python script called first in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
# first script
response = container.REQUEST.RESPONSE
str = container.first_html()
response.write(str)
response.flush()
Step 8: create an external method called external in the
reproducingError folder with the following content, in where the
function of the external method is communicationResponse and the
module is any name that you give to the file:
# external method
import time
def communicationResponse(context):
response = context.REQUEST.RESPONSE
sessionData = context.REQUEST.SESSION
strDetailEnd = scriptwindow.location='reproducingError/end'/
script
for item in range(1, 40):
time.sleep(3)
response.write(Response iteration: + str(item))
response.flush()
response.write(strDetailEnd)
response.flush()
Step 9: create a python script called end in the
reproducingError folder with the following content:
# end script
idService = context.REQUEST.SESSION['idService']
return Fin - + idService
Step 10: open two explorer in wich call the object
reproducingError (Example: localhost:8080/reproducingError)
Step 11: enter an example text in each one.
Step 12: clink in the link of one of them, and 5 second later clink
on the link of the other explorer. The waiting for around 5 second
is necesary because with other time interval not allways get the
error.
Stpe 13: and wait the Response iteration... Please if the error
don't appear in any of the pages, begins at Step 9 again. and try
to count to 5 witch other velocity :)
The correct result is:
Fin - testService
The error is:
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyError
Error Value: 'idService'
The traceback:
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec
Module None, line 2, in end
- PythonScript at /approach/reproducingError/end
- Line 2
Module AccessControl.ZopeGuards, line 67, in guarded_getitem
Module Products.Transience.TransientObject, line 176, in __getitem__
KeyError: 'idService'
I will appreciate if you try until the error appear, because I not
[Zope] ZPT tutorial
Does a ZPT tutorial exist anywhere? -- John ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZPT tutorial
Don't know of a good tutorial but I know there are many. I'm sure that plone.org has some good ones. In case you already know your DTML, this little howto has helped people a lot. http://www.zope.org/Members/peterbe/DTML2ZPT On 6/20/05, John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does a ZPT tutorial exist anywhere? -- John ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] New External Editor release 0.9
Since Casey Duncan, the original author of Zope External Editor is happily hacking away on other things at a new job, I figure I might as well pick up maintenance of this product. The new location for External Editor releases will be: http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor/ A new release (0.9) is available at that location and the changes for the release are visible at http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor/CHANGES-0.9.txt . Most changes in this release are aimed at improving zopeedit behavior under Windows. Have fun! - C ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZPT tutorial
--On 20. Juni 2005 23:45:34 +0100 John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does a ZPT tutorial exist anywhere? Aren't the *three* ZPT chapters in the Zope Book good enough? -aj pgpRrnfGY61Jv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
