Re: [Zope] Values lost when restarting
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 17:09 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote: > > --On 9. Januar 2007 17:06:24 +0100 Jonas Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > The "Zope Bible" says something about calling self.__changed__(1) after > > updating the value but this doesn't seem to work even though the objects > > inherits from "Persistent" > > self._p_changed = 1 Well, I suppose that's the final nail in the coffin for the Zope Bible (like it actually *needed* another one at this point). I think the self.__changed__(1) spelling I used was deprecated even before I wrote the book, and I guess the supporting code must have been taken out of the ZODB since then. So, just shoot me and go pre-order Philipp's book now: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/3540338071/fiawol/ref=nosim Cheers all, - Michael R. Bernstein michaelbernstein.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Is it possible to make a thumbnail from an added image..?
3dfestival - WebMaster wrote: > > Just a quick Idea: > > Can somebody make a routine RESIZING an image...? > > It would be great if someone could make something like that... > > Just imagine it: You add an Image_with_thumb... Browse for the image, then > it adds your image to the site AND it is being resized to, for instance, > 16x16pixels, and you can use that thumb as an icon for the image...! > Wouldn't that be great...? Check out the Photo Product: http://www.zope.org/Members/Drew/Photo HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0b2 bug #2
Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Brian Lloyd wrote: > > FYI - I've taken out the charset declaration altogether for beta 3, > >Thanks. > > > since this is obviously an issue that needs more thought. Since > >Sure. Language/encoding issues are hard to implement, though. There are > servers, proxies, browsers - and almost none of them obey standards > correctly :( The chosen language/encoding solution will likely have to be implemented along with some sort of language/encoding policy interface, so that the exact behaviour can be set by the server administrator, and possibly overridden by managers at different points in the tree. I would suggest that the default setting (in the startup script) be fully standards compliant, but a systems administrator should still be able to select another behaviour for Zope if they wish (including disallowing managers to override). Sorry this is a bit vague, need coffee. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Mental disconnect help: Zope objects vs. Python objects in ZODB
Max Møller Rasmussen wrote: > > Whops... > > The missing link > > http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/minimal_01/index_html Whoa. I am *seriously* impressed with the clarity you've brought to this subject. Thank You! Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article
Ron Bickers wrote: > > > However, for a programmer who had to come into the Zope > > environment 'cold', the problem would likely have seemed > > intractable. They wouldn't have even known where to look, > > How does Enhydra differ? Wouldn't the same problems be true for someone > working with Enhydra that knows Zope/Python really well but has zero > Enhydra/Java experience? Please scan through their 'getting started' document: http://www.lutris.com/documentation/lutris-enhydra/35/books/index.html?getting-started You'll see that Enhydra, like most app-servers, is basically a thin layer on top of a relational data model. What infrastructure is there is basically aimed at easing the pain of bridging the object-relational gap. To that end, they have a lot of Wizards that automate boring tasks, and present the the OR mapping in a pretty graphical interface. Great. They also provide some of the basic low-level building blocks for web applications like session managers. Wonderful. They even cleanly separate the presentation- and business-logic layers for you. Woohoo. User mangement? Build your own. ACL security? Build your own. Etc. Faced with a situation like this, a programmer will typically build *exactly what they need*, and no more. Every site an island. And all of this is built on top of Enhydra's core functionality. Zope's approach, of generalizing and integrating common design patterns into the core product, tends to poke developers in a different way. Consider LoginManager. LM is a product that is designed to be a drop in replacement for Zope's existing acl_users objects, but to be more extensible. Faced with a generalized solution that I could extend to authenticate using SMB and still store user info in the ZODB, but that doesn't correctly participate in Zope's local roles machinery, my initial reaction was to *fix it*. Which I did after a week of whacking on it. Which was itself the culmination of a month of, well, whacking on other aspects of the problem. An Enhydra developer would have developed a custom solution for managing their user objects. It would not have been as generalized, almost certainly would have included only simple permission flags used at the Business Object layer, and had other deficiencies that I won't ennumerate. But it would have done exactly what he needed to do right then. I, on the other hand, after solving the local roles problem, was able to install Membership, tweak the Tracker product to use the getUserNames method, change a few permissions on a Squishdot instance, and pretty soon I had myself a nice little NT authenticated Intranet on the Solaris box, one that I *knew* was extensible. Thus, it was worth the pain of having to delve into Zope's source. In conclusion, Enhydra, like most application servers, hides it's internals behind lowest common denominator interfaces, and encourages you to build on top of them. Zope, on the other hand, tries to create 'highest common denominator' interfaces and frameworks, and encourages you to extend or override them. This results in Enhydra developers needing to know Java plus Enhydra's idioms, wheras Zope developers need to know Python and Zope's *internals*. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments
Martijn Pieters wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:00:57PM -0500, Brian Lloyd wrote: > > > - When you view a management screen, the frame is about 5 pixels to > > > small, which cuts off the bottom of the Zope logo. > > > > I'm looking into fixing that. > > This suddenly rings a bell; I remember now that NS4 seems to have a 'grid' > system for laying out frames. It snaps to certain sizes, and adding a few > pixels plus or minus won't get you a visible change. Sizing of frames can > only happen in larger steps. Here's a throrough description of the problem: http://www.builder.com/Authoring/Tagmania/120699/index.html HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article
Ron Bickers wrote: > > > Using Zope we knew that we would reach situations which may be > > unresolvable in the short term, and could not make significant business > > decisions with so many unknown factors and lack of any way to circumvent > > problems. > > What in the world does that mean?!? Maybe it should read "We don't know how > to use Zope or code in Python." I can give you a personal example. When I was trying to get LoginManager to display it's stored users in the local roles security form, I couldn't fix it using what I knew, which was DTML and ZClasses. I had asked for help on the lists, and got some pointers in the general direction, but that was all. After a week of crawling around in Zope's source (and a lot of whining), I found the parts I needed to duplicate for PersistentUserSource.py, and I added them. It should not have taken me a week, except that I don't really consider myself a coder. The only thing that made it possible at all was my extensive experience *using* zope, and my familiarity with Tracebacks and a basic understanding of most of Zope's underlying mechanisms. If I had been a real Zope/Python coder, I probably would have figured it out in a day. However, for a programmer who had to come into the Zope environment 'cold', the problem would likely have seemed intractable. They wouldn't have even known where to look, and the fact that LoginManager is not an 'official' core Zope product could have been a show-stopper. (Why did I have to use LoginManager, you ask? Membership requires it, and I needed to store user data in the ZODB about NT authenticated users on a Solaris box. Gah). So the problem, as I see it, is multiple dependencies that may not be obvious. While over the long term, factoring common functionality into separate products that other products depend on makes more sense, and creates a *much* more powerful framework, in the interim (waiting for things to jell) it can frustrating as all get-out, and pretty easy to get stuck. Conversely, that things about Zope that are relatively mature are a dream to use and leverage, so this is an acceptable trade-off for me. Cheers, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Collector Product ??
Peter Bengtsson wrote: > > I'm looking for a bug-tracking-software-system. > Does DC give out their Collector (http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector) Product >for free for us? Where can it be downloaded? > Is there anybody out there who would care to share their product with me? ;) The collector has been superseded by the Tracker. It's an unsupported product, but you can get it through CVS: http://www.zope.org//Members/klm/TrackerWiki/FrontPage Here's another one, a bit less sophisticated, but easier to set up and use: http://www.zope.org/Members/shalabh/iTrack HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Newbie question: HTTP variables
Dean & Deb Ekstrand wrote: > > I'm trying to figure out Zope (on a time crunch, too), and I'm wondering how > to do something. How can I access HTTP variables in my DTML code? > Specifically, I want to return code specific to the user's browser. I know > that HTTP has provisions for determing browser version, are those accessible > in DTML and how? If they are not accessible in DTML, is there a workaround > (without oodles of javascript)? these variables are part of the REQUEST namespace. Specifically you can do to display the browswer version. Creating conditional code is left as an excersize for the student. If you want to display a complete list of all HTTP REQUEST variables, try this: > Another quick question: I see that Zope 2.3 will have "Script" objects. > What's the closest I can come in Zope 2.2.5? The Python Method product: http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/PythonMethod Or external methods: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/ExternalMethods HTH, Michael Bernstein ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] First Project
Koch Marc wrote: > > Please let me ask your advice on how to realize the following: > > I would like to build an application for handling development requests. > These requests should be submitted by our end-users through our Intranet to > my team. We then look at each new request and dispatch it to one or more > development team for approval (or rejection). At this stage: > - The end-user should be able to see that his request has been dispatched > - The concerned development team(s) should see that there is a new request, > they could look at it and accept it or reject it and give a comment > When all the teams have replied, my team would add a summarized comment to > the request and the end-user should be able to see this. At this point, the > request handling for my team is at its end. > > Requests should be submitted by a Web-Form and may contain an arbitrary file > (eg. Word Document). > The end-user and the development team should see only what they are > concerned with. > My team needs a global overview. Check out the Tracker product: http://www.zope.org/Members/klm/TrackerWiki/FrontPage HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] tuples in DTML
Max M wrote: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael > Bernstein > > > > > > > > > >Which (of course) displays the list as an single item along > >with each of the strings: > > > ['list item 1', 'list item 2', 'list item 3'] > > String 1 > > String 2 > > String 3 > > >Now, how do I iterate over the list in DTML? > > > > blah blah > > > Something like the above ought to work. Mmm, It doesn't seem quite right. If I do it that way, I'll have to run the external method more than once, and it's a relatively expensive method. I'm opening an HTTP connection and processing the page to extract the data that is getting put into the tuple. What if I do: Ok, this works! Thanks for the help, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] is it possible to import from Excel
K H Subrahmanyan wrote: > > Hello, > > Now we have developed some database using gadfly in zope. > Actually there are some datum which are there in Excel. I would like to know > is it possible to import all that datum from Excel to zope database, instead > of giving all the data to zope manually. > > Actually all those data are the Emp. records. Currently they are > maintaining it in Excel. Now they want to make it web based stuff. We have > developed a tool for that. > Since all that data are there in Excel I wanted some stuff to import that. > Hoping your reply. I seem to recall that once-upon-a-time DC had a tool/product called Tabula for this purpose. Maybe they'll haul it out of storage for a consulting engagement. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] tuples in DTML
Michael Bernstein wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I've been messing with some external methods and I've got > one that returns a tuple. The tuple consists of a list and a > few strings. > > How do I access the tuple elements from DTML? Ok, I've been messing with it some more and I should have tried simply iterating over the tuple elements before: Which (of course) displays the list as an single item along with each of the strings: ['list item 1', 'list item 2', 'list item 3'] String 1 String 2 String 3 Now, how do I iterate over the list in DTML? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] tuples in DTML
Hi everybody, I've been messing with some external methods and I've got one that returns a tuple. The tuple consists of a list and a few strings. How do I access the tuple elements from DTML? Cheers, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Editing the z2.py File
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > - do not make *one* mistake in the "root" method code or you will lose access to >your Zope completely (that's the big problem with all-database systems like Zope). >Even FTP access will fail, you will have to retrieve your ZODB from backups! Umm, even if *everything* else fails, you can still manually truncate the Data.fs file to remove the last transaction (presumably the change you made to the access rule), and you'll be back to normal. That's one of the things that I really appreciate about Zope, that it's practically (though not absolutely) immune to unrecoverable data corruption. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Help save my sanity (DTML-in string comparison)
Darin Lee wrote: > > Zopistas, > > I am trying to build a simple, 2 tier, tree-style navigation structure for my site. >I have puzzled over the following code for hours, and it's just not working right. I >have two loops, one that goes through the Parents, and when the parent matches the >current folder, I go through the children (There are 2 scripts, one that resides one >level up and presents a simple list of objects to click on) The following code lives >in the child folders, and displays the parents and all of the HTML documents in the >current folder. > > The output I am looking for resembles below. > > [snip] > > ¯-- > BTW, I have tried the NFGNav product, but It doesn't work in my application (I >suspect) because I am using transparent folders to organize things. I also want my >NAV to start farther down the heirarchy (level 2), not from the root. Try ZNavigator, instead. HTH, Michael Berrnstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] SiteAccess and Roles
The Doctor What wrote: > > * Michael Bernstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001215 10:05]: > > The Doctor What wrote: > > Ok, then problem may be in your SiteRoot. What are the > > settings there? > > Really? I wouldnt't have suspected the SiteRoot. lesse > > Interesting. It now works, if I fill in the Base. Before, I > had *nothing* in the SiteRoot access. Simply putting a Base in > and bing-bang-boom, it works! > > Thanks for the help. Though the impression I got from the > documentation is that this should have worked with the defaults > > Perhaps I don't understand exactly what Base and Path in a SiteRoot > actually do Base replaces the portion of your URL comprised of the protocol and fully qualified domain name: 'http://www.servername.com' becomes 'http://www.yourhostedsite.com'. Path replaces the rest of the URL up to and including the folder containing the SiteRoot: '/hosted_sites/site1/' typically becomes '/' So the object that would have been published as 'http://www.servername.com/hosted_sites/site1/', now becomes 'http://www.yourhostedsite.com/'. Both of these settings affect such environment variables as BASEx and URLx which construct URL fragments for use in DTML. The Access Rule only redirects requests from one object to another by manipulating the stack, it doesn't affect the REQUEST namespace. You would generally be better off leaving the SiteRoot out, rather than putting one in and leaving it's properties blank. Does this help? Michael Bernstein. P.S. If you want to see exactly what the SiteRoot is doing, add a DEBUG method to your folder. the DEBUG method should contain . View the method both with and without the SiteRoot. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Fw: Zope.org feedback
Bill Anderson wrote: > > Bill Anderson wrote: > ... > > The archives show that Loren was using this term for this usage by > > nearly a month. if nothing else, the timing of the application > > coinciding with the introduction of the term by Loren is at best > > suspicious. In fact, it occurs on the very day that Loren made the > > announcement of the howto. > > And according to the USPTO: > > Federal registration is not required to establish rights in a trademark. > Common law rights arise from actual use of a mark. Generally, the first > to either use a mark in commerce or file an intent to use application > with the Patent and Trademark Office has the ultimate right to use and > registration. Sorry, but 'breadcrumbs' as a description of various types of web-navigation features has been in use quite a bit longer than this. Try searching http://www.useit.com/ for the term 'breadcrumbs' and you'll come up with some documents dating to 1994. So Loren does not 'win', except that this Charles Knerr person has absolutely no claim on the term. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] SiteAccess and Roles
The Doctor What wrote: > > * Michael Bernstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001214 01:06]: > > I read your access rule, and it seems like you've got it set > > up to ignore the gTLD, so that www.gerf.org and www.gerf.com > > etc. get routed to the same object automatically. Is that > > correct? > > Yes. I have several sites that use that feature, and none that > don't. It's actually really handy, as it's one line in my > siteaccess rule vs. several in my apache config. :-) Ok, then problem may be in your SiteRoot. What are the settings there? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Anothe Zwiki bug
I've found that if you name a structured Zwiki folder with an id that has a space in it, that the link on child pages that is supposed to go to the root page of the folder (ie. FrontPage) replaces the space with '%2520' instead of '%20', which breaks the link. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] SiteAccess and Roles
The Doctor What wrote: > > I have site access running, but I apparently don't fully grok roles. > > I have a directory layout like so: > > /ZopeRoot > /site1 > /site2 > /site3 > /user_acl(2) > /user_acl(1) > > My site access rule is at: > http://linuxasm.gerf.org:9673/siteid/view_source > All the site[123] directories are SiteRooted and work fine. > I read your access rule, and it seems like you've got it set up to ignore the gTLD, so that www.gerf.org and www.gerf.com etc. get routed to the same object automatically. Is that correct? Michael. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] LoginManager broken?
"Mayers, Philip J" wrote: > > Thanks, I'll take a look. > > Re: LoginManager - After a fast turnaround (confirming my ample faith in > Open Source software) Magnus Heino pointed me in the right direction - the > dtml methods and SQL objects need to be inside the UserSource folder, *not* > the LoginManager folder as the Howto implies (or maybe I just can't > read...). Can someone confirm that the SQL methods need to be inside the > UserSource folder? (which is mildly annoying, but there we go...) > > I'm still having some problems getting multiple roles working, but it's > behaving itself for now. Now all I have to do is solve my LIMIT problem... If you're having dificulties getting LoginManager to work with the local roles management interface, maybe this solution (which I only tested using LoginManger+Membership) will help: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2000-September/006953.html I ahve no idea how this would work with SQL users, but hopefully it'll give you a clue. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZClass with images
Diego Rodrigo Neufert wrote: > > Anyone know how to put some images in ZClass? I have done things like > putting ZClass with base class OFS:Image but with it I can only assing one > Image do the object... I need to assign two or tree images do the object. I've been thinking about something similar myself. I'd like to create a ZClass/ZPatterns version of the Photo and ZPhotoAlbum products (or at least a reasonable equivalent). Specifically, I'd like to incorporate the functionality that, upon instantiation of the object, creates the neccesary sized versions and stores them. I'd like to use ZPatterns to be able to switch the storage between the ZODB, the file-system, or BLOBs in an RDBMS without altering the rest of the application. Any progress that you make would be very helpful to me. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] authenticate user
"Sven B." wrote: > > hi, > why this code isn't working anymore in zope 2.2.4 > > ^ If this is an actual copy & paste from your code, I think that the misspelling above might have something to do with it. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: DC and the PTK?
Paul Everitt wrote: > > I'll take the blame on this miscommunication. I'm the one that told > Gary not to take support contracts on PTK. > > We have a nearly ironclad support policy: we don't support stuff that > isn't official. We won't support ZDiscussions, for instance. If we had > to support everything we made available, then we'd stop making as much > stuff available. > > Consulting, on the other hand, is a different story. As Ethan noted, we > use PTK stuff in our consulting engagements, because we are directly > involved in the development of the solution and know where the bodies > are buried. :^) Ok, then. What is the difference (or the line) between support and consultation? And on which side of it does a plea of "Please help me make this work, I've got money" fall? I've certainly been in the position of trying to get something to work, and asking "How much to fix this?" without even getting a response. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] New Zope.org
emf wrote: > > Zopatistas! > > Zope.org is finally living in its new home. > > Right now, you may be getting zope.org through the old apache, so don't > be surprised if it's a tad slow. By late tomorrow, just about > everybody's dns should have updated to the new IP address. > > If you want to know, do a nslookup www.zope.org: you should get > 63.102.49.33 as your answer. > > When I finally wake up tomorrow, the first thing I'm going to do is > start working on a write-up of what the new zope setup is all about. Was this the 'stealth' project? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] jcNTUserFolder on 2.2.x
Toby Dickenson wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:20:41 -0800, "Andy McKay" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Is there an updated version or product similar to jcNTUserFolder (allowing > >NT authenitcation in Zope) that works in Zope 2.2.x? Or am I going to have > >to upgrade jcNTUserFolder? > > API changes in 2.2 (and future developments, like PTK) make custom > user folders less attractive than they used to be. If you intend > committing some time to this then I recommend something based on > http://www.zope.org/Members/tsarna/LoginManager > > The simplest change would be to transplant the authentication code out > of (jc)NTUserFolder and into LoginManager methods. However that would > still only run on NT. Important: After you get authentication working the way you want it, you'll have to fix your LoginManager to integrate with the existing local roles machinery. Here's a link to help you out: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-ptk/2000-September/001739.html HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] FYI: Digital Creations secures $12M round of investment
Paul Everitt wrote: > > Hello Zope friends. At long last we at Digital Creations are able to > publicly say it: we've closed a $12M round of investment: Congratulations, Paul. Vindication is sweet. Looking forward to DC's continued development as a company. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Can't get to work in a sub-folder.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Howdy Folks, > > I'm trying to make use of the gizmo and it only works in > the root directory. > > I'm trying to create a dynamic navigation display so users can click > their way through the sub-directories of files. Kind of a > "Zope Explorer". Maybe this will help: http://classic.zope.org:8080/Documentation/HowTo/DTML/treetag Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Python Zope Method as option for renamed Python Method?
Chris Withers wrote: > > Hamish Lawson wrote: > > Zope regards as a method a Zope Method? That would then give us Python > > Zope Method, Perl Zope Method, DTML Zope Method, SQL Zope Method, etc. > > Is it too late to add the option for Python Zope Method to the poll? > > All too long an unwieldy... glad to see the -lets have died. > Sad to see neither Python Block nor Python Op(eration) seem so be > gettign there since they most accurately describe what these things are, > IMVHO... Thanks for the vote, Chris... :-) If the poll gets re-run, I'd like to add 'Python Code Block' as another contender. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] siteaccess, hosting etc, sanity check
Jonathan Cheyne wrote: > > Ok, well I got some success by eliminating apache and using the site accesss > example methods and an access rule. > > but. > > is this a lower performance solution than fronting zope with apache? The short answer is: "Only in some special cases". An example of such a 'special case' is if you want certain static files to be served directly by apache, and not by Zope. Or maybe you just like Apaches log-files better ;-) If the stuff that Apache was going to be fronting for was coming out of Zope anyway, then there is no difference. You may want to keep Apache around for certain things, just use IP hosting for your root folder (no Virtual hosting) and have the Access Rules and SiteRoots take care of both blue.com and red.com in sub-folders. that's what i'm doing on the Zope I'm hosting at CodeIt.com. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Paul comments on the PythonLabs Move
Check out his comments here: http://weblogs.userland.com/zopeNewbies/discuss/msgReader$831 Cheers, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to display PDF files
Alan Johnston wrote: > > At any rate, how do you get ZServer to > send a 'raw' PDF file to the browser so that the browser's Acrobat plug-in > can display it? I tried creating 'File' and 'Image' objects. That's > obviously not it. 'File' should work. Are you naming the 'File' object with a .pdf suffix? HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] siteaccess, hosting etc, sanity check
Jonathan Cheyne wrote: > > my various settings ... > > NameVirtualHost 111.222.333.444 > > > ServerName www.red.com > ProxyPass / http://www.blue.com:8080/red > ProxyPassReverse / http://www.blue.com:8080/red > > > then in /red we have a siteroot with the following > > title: > base: http://www.red.com > path: / Jonathan, Do you have an Access Rule set up in your root Zope Folder? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] The Great Python (and Perl) Method Renaming Poll
Michel Pelletier wrote: > > We will be conducting a community poll to decide what to call Python > (Perl, insert your language here) Methods. > [snip] > So, before the poll, we are calling for nominiations from the > community. Please send me an email containing one or more candidate > names. These names will be added to the list. No pre-screening will be > done, so please exercise some discretion if your favorite name is more > tounge-in-cheek than practical (you never know what the masses will > decide though!). > > Later this week, I will create a web poll where you can vote for your > favorite. I would like to suggest that instead of a plurality vote, we use a 'Borda count', also known as an 'preferential' or 'single-transferable' ballot. Those of you who followed the recent ICANN election should be familiar with it. It works like this: All votes consist of ranking the availble choices according to desireability (if there are six choices, you would number them 1-6, each choice must be uniquely ranked, not all choices must be ranked). All voters first choices are tallied. If, at this point, one choice has achieved over 50% of the vote, the vote is over. If no choice has achieved 50%, the choice with the fewest votes is removed, and the voters who voted for that choice have their second choice counted and distributed. If at this point one of the choices acheives 50%...etc. Lather, Rinse, Repeat. This method has the advantage of better representing peoples true choice, since no one is tempted to vote for a choice that they simply disapprove of less, because 'otherwise they're throwing away their vote'. In a five-way race for example, a plurality may consist of 25% of the vote, thereby ensuring that 75% of the voters will be pissed off. With a Borda count though, the winner could be everyone's second-favorite choice, thus better representing what people want. There's a few other wrinkles to this, such as situatuions where not all choices have been ranked. If a voter has only ranked four choices and a fifth runoff phase is neccessary, their ballot is discarded, and the 50% mark is recalculated for that phase to account for the reduced number of ballots. Cheers, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Bypass ZODB and use File System
Noah wrote: > > What we really want to do is to provide a second view to > /var/www/htdocs for Apache. I understand that Apache won't > serve up our dynamic content, but that's not important. > Zope is just viewed as a better solution for managing our > static documents. The problem we have in my organization is > that there is a lot of resistance to my prototype Zope > document management system due to the fact that everything is > stored in ZODB. We think this risky -- possibly a data prison. The way my organization does it, is to manage the content within Zope, and to regularly run 'wget' on the server to replicate it all to static files, which are then served by Apache on another server. Doing that, plus regular backups of the Data.fs file (you're already making regular backups of your Apache based system, right?), and you should be guarded against any but the most catastrophicly unlikely disaster scenarios (you do have a disaster recovery plan, right?). wget is really a very easy way to get documents back out of Zope, and if your system is designed to do this as a matter of course (perhaps by using 'cron'), it should silence those particular criticisms. > Also people don't want to change from their current habits of > editing files via NFS or Samba mounted directories. My original > plan was to allow them some sort of syncronization process, > but now I think that would be crazy. Hmm. I guess it depends on what percentage of your users want to keep doing this. You can certainly combine LocalFS with the approach that I outlined above. I would make it a special case. Keep the CMS server separate from the Apache server, and only allow the mounted directories on the CMS server. I've found that people appreciate being able to manage their content from anywhere through a browser, and they tend to gravitate toward that as a matter of course, once it's there, if they're not forced to do it. In short, give people options, and see which ones they actually use. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Determining permissions in a Product
Chris Withers wrote: > > When the dialog box pops up, hit cancel and see what authorization > failed on. > That should give you some clues as to what needs fixing. > > Incidnetally, I think this is a bit of a security hole. You shouldn't > get told what you're not allowed to see, especially if it's 'cos you got > your password wrong. If you see what I mean ;-) I see what you mean here, Chris, but wouldn't this come under the heading of a 'security through obscurity' hole? ie. you're saying that the system isn't obscure enough? Michael. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protocol
Chris Withers wrote: > > Toby Dickenson wrote: > > Those people were concerned that too many things were exposed via > > ZPublisher also My interpretation was that the issue is one of > > access control, not publishing protocol. > > I think the issue is that you can't limit the visibility of objects > right now. > You can limit their access easily enough (or more tortuously if you > don't want people to access the bits of a page on their own > (standard_*,etc) via a complex web of proxy roles and required > permissions) but there doesn't appear to be any easy way to say "right, > I want this object exposed for reading and writing via FTP and reading > via HTTP, while this one shouldn't be URL traversable but I'd like to > edit it via WebDAV and this method is for use via XML-RPC but really > shouldn't be visible anywhere else.) It seems like this can be handled rather well by simply adding a 'XML-RPC access', a 'SOAP access' and a 'WebDAV access' set of permissions. we already have a 'FTP access' permission which works fine. Thse could then be matched with appropriate 'view' permissions as well. On a slightly different note, I think that the permissions list should be viewable in two more ways: A view where permissions are grouped into 'subjects', (for example all the ones I just mentioned should go into a 'access protocol' subject and possibly a 'view protocol' subject) and another view where permissions are grouped according to the roles that have them. These different views should all be on the same tab, with hyperlinks to switch between them (sort of like the 'local roles' screen is linked from 'security'). Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope, Threads and Signals
Charlie Wilkinson wrote: > > Michael Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wilkinson Charlie E wrote: > > > > > > It all began when I was a small child, but I'll skip ahead > > > a bit > > > > I almost hate to say this, since your post is an interesting > > one otherwise, but please don't send HTML email to the list. > > Some of the people here don't use HTML-capable mail clients. > > > > I'm not a dummy. I didn't mean to imply that you were. > [snip experience] > > BUT I CAN'T SHUT OFF HTML IN OUTLOOK TO SAVE MY MISERABLE F*ING LIFE > > [snip attempts to supress HTML] > > My suspicion is that some well meaning but deranged > Exchange SMTP gateway server is doing the conversion, as there's a meta > tag that says the HTML generator is Exchange. I've tried talking to > the people who run the servers, but they are clueless and keep saying > it's something I'm doing. > [snip] > Monday I'll check with our sysadmin and take a look at the Exchange Management UI myself. If I can identify the correct 'knob', I'll let you know, so you can pass this information along to your server admins. Meanwhile, you could use a free web-mail account, and just set the Reply-To or CC to your actual email address. I like netaddress.com (no Reply-To, though). Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope, Threads and Signals
> Wilkinson Charlie E wrote: > > It all began when I was a small child, but I'll skip ahead > a bit I almost hate to say this, since your post is an interesting one otherwise, but please don't send HTML email to the list. Some of the people here don't use HTML-capable mail clients. Thanks, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Can Free Software Manage Your Web Site?
"Steven D. Majewski" wrote: > > Inside magazine <http://www.inside.com/> has a feature on Zope: >"Can Free Software Manage Your Web Site?" Here's the direct link: http://www.inside.com/story/Story_Cached/0,2770,10617_13_32_1,00.html Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] 'Offline' mailhost
"Jan H. Haul" wrote: > > Each of these will be around 42 KByte large. > > Huh? Why that? you ask. > Because in the header of each mail, the whole recipient list will > be listed under To: or Cc: > [snip] > - privacy: You would not like to have "your" recipients end up on > other people's mailing lists What about using BCC: ? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] sorting problem
Tim Cook wrote: > > Michael Bernstein wrote: > > > > Here's my problem: I want to sort a list of objects on a property that > > not all items have. So I'm doing this: > > > > > > > > The problem is that those items that have a blank someProperty are > > listed first, when I want them at the bottom of the list. I don't want > > to reverse the entire sort order, I just want blank values treated as > > being larger than any other value. > > Insert a chr(255) as the first character by default. It'll need > to be trimmed off if the property becomes populated. Sounds good, how do I do that? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] sorting problem
Hello all, Here's my problem: I want to sort a list of objects on a property that not all items have. So I'm doing this: The problem is that those items that have a blank someProperty are listed first, when I want them at the bottom of the list. I don't want to reverse the entire sort order, I just want blank values treated as being larger than any other value. Any suggestions? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: [ZCommerce] looking for developers on a project !
Jsacks wrote: > > our company is looking to customize the current zope software into a > particular e-commerce solution. if you would like to participate in > this project please let us know. you can respond to this email or > call 412-401-9510 thanks! You know, you'd probably get better responses (quantity and quality) if you stated a few things up front: - Will the software resulting from this project be open-sourced? - What kind of ecommerce solution is this going to be, and will it be generally useful for many different ecommerce sites? - Who are the people already involved in this project? - What sort of help do you need? - What stage is the project at right now (requirements, architecture , detailed design, or implementation)? Hoping for more details, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] OT: Website design / spec / development resources
"J. Atwood" wrote: > > Hey Zopers, > > I am looking for some good guidelines in designing, spec'ing and > developing large complex websites. Anything like guidelines, steps, > howtos, etc would be much appreciates. From theory to practice. The first book on this subject that opened my eyes was 'Secrets of Successful Websites', which in particular offers advice on the many pitfalls that a web project can face (with case studies), and reccomended procedures for handling and/or avoiding them. It's getting a bit dated (1996), but still has a lot of valuable advice. Two O'Reilly books that I have found very helpful are 'Information Architecture' and 'Designing Navigation for the Web', both of which will help keep your sites well organized and easily navigable by end users. Another good book is 'Website Usability - The Practice of Simplicity' which will help keep your sites users happy and productive. A recent book that I've found useful, though not as original as some of the others I've mentioned, is 'Great Web Architecture'. I have other, more specific suggestions, but it would help if you could say at least what types of sites you're attempting to design. BTW, I heartily concur with the recomendation made by Kapil: 'Philip and Alex's Guide to Website Publishing' is a monumental tour-de-force, and should definitely be read by anyone who wants to work in the web industry, even though I think that some of his technical reccomendations are a little close-minded (ie. 'Use Oracle and big Sun Iron'). I hope these help you as much as they did me. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Accesing a new context from a manipulated string
Here's my problem: given a method itemURL(), that typically returns a site relative URL such as '/about/', I need to change to the appropriate directories context using . In short I need to do the equivalent of . The closest I've gotten so far is: which generates a KeyError: /about/ in the traceback. Can anyone help me truncate the extra '/'s off of this string and pass it to the ? Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] WebObjects
Chris Withers wrote: > > Michael Bernstein wrote: > > As I recall (from a WebObjects demonstartion I sat through a > > long time ago), WO creates the most godawful mangled URLs > > that I had ever seen. As a result, a WO site cannot be > > spidered by search engines, or converted to a static copy > > using wget. > > Zope's not too hot on this either what with index_html instead of > index.html the problem of "is /something' a 'file' or a 'folder' from > wget's point of view?" Wget would regard /something as a file. bur it would regard /something/ as a default document in a folder. > IIRC, it currently would download a zope folder object as a single file > :( > > I've also been bitten by this in Wiki's since links aren't generated > with absolute_url and so I sometimes get > /MyWikiFolder/OneWikiPage/AnotherWikiPage which throws up a nasty > __getitem__ exception (particularly in Netscape, which seems to like > appending / onto the end of FrontPage in the URL box...) This sounds like a Wiki problem rather than a Zope problem. As Zope will access /something and /something/ the same, it's trivial to make sure that all URLs that link to an object include a trailing /. Wget assumes that when it crawls to a something/ location that it is accessing the default file for the directory, so it saves the resulting page as something/index.html . Whatever webserver you use can be set to regard index.html as the default file, so the link (which is still pointing to /something/) will work just fine. The only problem crops up with inline links that don't conform to the /something/ format. All automatically generated links (as in navigation bars) on the sites I create end with a trailing /. Cheers, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] WebObjects
Luciano Ramalho wrote: > > [snip] > The object-relational mapping mechanism WO uses, however, is very advanced and, > in a basic level, easy to use too. Classes are written in Java by a case-like > tool and automatically bound to tables. In fact, programmers rarely have any > contact with SQL: all necessary queries are generated automatically by the IDE > (which runs only on NT and MacOS X). > [snip] As I recall (from a WebObjects demonstartion I sat through a long time ago), WO creates the most godawful mangled URLs that I had ever seen. As a result, a WO site cannot be spidered by search engines, or converted to a static copy using wget. HTH, Michael Bernstein ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Images and tag tag
peter wrote: > > I use the nifty Image object and an extra tag to it. > like this > > > But what I want to do is this: > ONMOUSEUP="document.bgColor='#FFCCFF'" SRC="myimage_gif" width=118 height=77 > border=0> > > I have tried > > This is not supported the tag tag. Only border, width, height and alt can be > used. Try the ActiveImage product: http://www.zope.org/Members/admin/ActiveImage I think it'll do what you want. HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope
Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > On Thu, 25 May 2000, Kevin Dangoor wrote: > > People who are big fans of python aren't forced to use those Products, but I > >Very soon we'll be forced, 'cause most Products will be in Perl (yse, > I've read the FAQ and saw "no Perl Products"; it's temporary, mark you). 'Perl Products'? Perhaps not. 'ZClass Products' that are built with Perl Methods? Almost certainly yes. Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope
Chris McDonough wrote: > > Sheesh, it's like we'd recommended Microsoft in here or something. :-) In you hadn't noticed, ActiveState already has dealings 'with the dark side'. Integrating Visual Python into MS Visual Studio: http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html A binary only release of Python: http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePython.html I won't bother putting in a Yoda quote about the dark side being easier, not stronger... ;-) Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: [Zope-Moz] Good news for Zope/Mozilla efforts!
Paul Everitt wrote: > > David was going to check to see if the embedded Python could import C > extensions. If it could, I know of a little object publishing > environment that could run in Mozilla. :^) Holy $#*! That would make it possible to replace Frontier on the desktop! Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Fw: ZTopics and Canned Queries
Shalabh Chaturvedi wrote: > What I want to do is create: (creator : creatorName) > And use http://url/FilterCreator?creatorName=shalabh > > Currently ZTopic does not allow me to create an object like above as it tries > to evaluate the query at creation time. > > I have modified my local copy of ZTopics to do what I need. Now I have an extra > checkbox that allows creation of 'parameterized' ZTopics. When it is checked, > caching is turned off and REQUEST is also looked up during construction of the > query at run time. > > Does anyone else find this useful? I know this product is unsupported but is it > possible (or worth it) to submit this as a patch? > Are there other products that might achive the same (any kind of 'search > objects' or 'canned queries')? This sounds interesting. How would this end up being different from doing a ZCatalog search, though? In any case, You probably want to submit a patch to Amos Latteier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). HTH, Michael Bernstein. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
