[Zope] Re: Newbie Question-Mysql
Hi list,i'm developig and iptables management tool via zope, so i have prewritten python modules that do some action with mysql database,so to integrate that modulse with zope do i need something extra? Or just registering the class and calling the proper methods ? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-dev] Newbie Question
I hope I'm posting to the right mailing list. There were so many to decide from. I've just been introduced to Zope, and am curious on how it will fit into my company's plans. I'm currently learning Java, and was starting to learn the RedHat Web Application Framework. I've found Zope in an article on the web, and started to look into it. It looks to be just as scalable, but I'm curious on how extensible it is, as well as, it's power in a corporate environment. For example, how extensible is it, to modify the security module and have it authenticate against LDAP? (I don't want all my users to remember yet another password) Also, how powerful is Python as compared to Java? Since it uses a native compiler, it stands to reason that it would be faster than Java, but what of it's objects and packages? (i.e. Does it have an image manipulation package, or networking packages?) I must say, seeing the documentation and books alone, tells me the product is good, and something I can learn. I see alot of Hope for Zope grin, couldn't resist, but I don't want to get into it, just to see if it doesn't fit into my plans. For those who want a couple of examples, I have 3 projects for our intranet/extranet/internet applications: 1). Images and cataloging (where, our development team can upload their images, and the intranet application will take that image and export it to a JPG to update the web catalog, and move the original file to our FTP site for our photographers. 2). Document Management (Uploading of files, and inputting data to index on those files for searching) 3). Obviously the usual (Content Management and Portals) which I'm sure Zope does a good job at. Thanks in advance!! Again, my apologies if there is a better list for this post. Aaron Paxson Network Operations Manager Decorative Concepts, Inc http://www.decorativeconcepts.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Newbie Question
Aaron Paxson wrote: I hope I'm posting to the right mailing list. There were so many to decide from. This should've probably been directed to the main Zope list; zope-dev is for development *of* Zope. I've just been introduced to Zope, and am curious on how it will fit into my company's plans. I'm currently learning Java, and was starting to learn the RedHat Web Application Framework. I've found Zope in an article on the web, and started to look into it. It looks to be just as scalable, but I'm curious on how extensible it is, as well as, it's power in a corporate environment. For example, how extensible is it, to modify the security module and have it authenticate against LDAP? (I don't want all my users to remember yet another password) Also, how powerful is Python as compared to Java? Since it uses a native compiler, it stands to reason that it would be faster than Java, but what of it's objects and packages? (i.e. Does it have an image manipulation package, or networking packages?) There are Add-ons that do User authentification against LDAP servers, and its also not very hard to roll your own. Zope is, generally speaking, *very* extensible -- see for example the long list of 3rd pary add-on products at http://www.zope.org/Products I think Python is one of the greatest strengths of Zope. Its not only a modern full-fledged OOP language, comes with great libraries (see http://python.org/doc/current/modindex.html, and has even more to download separately) but is simply a joy to program in. Bruce Eckel put it very nicely IMHO: http://mindview.net/FAQ/FAQ-012 ) Also see: http://csdl.computer.org/comp/mags/co/2000/10/rx023abs.htm http://www.cis.udel.edu/~silber/470STUFF/article.pdf http://www.twistedmatrix.com/users/glyph/rant/python-vs-java.html There are good networking modules in the standard Python distribution; image manipulation can be done with eg. PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/) or PythonMagick (http://www.procoders.net/moinmoin/PythonMagick) I must say, seeing the documentation and books alone, tells me the product is good, and something I can learn. I see alot of Hope for Zope grin, couldn't resist, but I don't want to get into it, just to see if it doesn't fit into my plans. For those who want a couple of examples, I have 3 projects for our intranet/extranet/internet applications: 1). Images and cataloging (where, our development team can upload their images, and the intranet application will take that image and export it to a JPG to update the web catalog, and move the original file to our FTP site for our photographers. 2). Document Management (Uploading of files, and inputting data to index on those files for searching) 3). Obviously the usual (Content Management and Portals) which I'm sure Zope does a good job at. Those are certainly suited for Zope - peter. Thanks in advance!! Again, my apologies if there is a better list for this post. Aaron Paxson Network Operations Manager Decorative Concepts, Inc http://www.decorativeconcepts.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Newbie Question
Thanks for resonding, even though there was a better list! I've got some fantastic replies, and was overwhelmed with the answers! I'll definately give Zope a try. -Original Message- From: Peter Sabaini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:32 AM To: Aaron Paxson Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Newbie Question Aaron Paxson wrote: I hope I'm posting to the right mailing list. There were so many to decide from. This should've probably been directed to the main Zope list; zope-dev is for development *of* Zope. I've just been introduced to Zope, and am curious on how it will fit into my company's plans. I'm currently learning Java, and was starting to learn the RedHat Web Application Framework. I've found Zope in an article on the web, and started to look into it. It looks to be just as scalable, but I'm curious on how extensible it is, as well as, it's power in a corporate environment. For example, how extensible is it, to modify the security module and have it authenticate against LDAP? (I don't want all my users to remember yet another password) Also, how powerful is Python as compared to Java? Since it uses a native compiler, it stands to reason that it would be faster than Java, but what of it's objects and packages? (i.e. Does it have an image manipulation package, or networking packages?) There are Add-ons that do User authentification against LDAP servers, and its also not very hard to roll your own. Zope is, generally speaking, *very* extensible -- see for example the long list of 3rd pary add-on products at http://www.zope.org/Products I think Python is one of the greatest strengths of Zope. Its not only a modern full-fledged OOP language, comes with great libraries (see http://python.org/doc/current/modindex.html, and has even more to download separately) but is simply a joy to program in. Bruce Eckel put it very nicely IMHO: http://mindview.net/FAQ/FAQ-012 ) Also see: http://csdl.computer.org/comp/mags/co/2000/10/rx023abs.htm http://www.cis.udel.edu/~silber/470STUFF/article.pdf http://www.twistedmatrix.com/users/glyph/rant/python-vs-java.html There are good networking modules in the standard Python distribution; image manipulation can be done with eg. PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/) or PythonMagick (http://www.procoders.net/moinmoin/PythonMagick) I must say, seeing the documentation and books alone, tells me the product is good, and something I can learn. I see alot of Hope for Zope grin, couldn't resist, but I don't want to get into it, just to see if it doesn't fit into my plans. For those who want a couple of examples, I have 3 projects for our intranet/extranet/internet applications: 1). Images and cataloging (where, our development team can upload their images, and the intranet application will take that image and export it to a JPG to update the web catalog, and move the original file to our FTP site for our photographers. 2). Document Management (Uploading of files, and inputting data to index on those files for searching) 3). Obviously the usual (Content Management and Portals) which I'm sure Zope does a good job at. Those are certainly suited for Zope - peter. Thanks in advance!! Again, my apologies if there is a better list for this post. Aaron Paxson Network Operations Manager Decorative Concepts, Inc http://www.decorativeconcepts.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope Template Newbie question
I'm trying to pull in another file with the following markup: span tal:replace=here/level2bannerLevel2banner content goes here/span And it does pull the file in, but it quotes the entire HTML in that file so that my browser doesn't interpret it: lt;img src=/images/page2leftbottom-blank.jpg width=331 height=39 border=0 class=banner alt=Categorygt; This is not what I want. What am I doing wrong, or how to I prevent the quoting? David Cain Senior Web Developer, Information Systems Department Syracuse University Library Syracuse, New York 13244-2010 (315) 443-5923 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Template Newbie question
On March 11, David Cain wrote: And it does pull the file in, but it quotes the entire HTML in that file so that my browser doesn't interpret it: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvZPT.stx Normally, the tal:replace and tal:content statements quote HTML tags and entities in the text that they insert. For instance, the the character is quoted to amp;lt;. If you actually want to insert unquoted text, you need to precede the expression with the structure keyword. a. -- Adrian van den Dries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Development team www.dev.flow.com.au FLOW Communications Pty. Ltd. www.flow.com.au ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] Pre-newbie question: how to implement this app?
I'm calling this a "pre-newbie" question because I'm not running Zope yet, although I've been looking into it for some time, and have recently started reading in earnest. I have an application that I think would be a good initial app for getting into Zope, and I'd like some advice on how to go about it. It's a basic task list management system for a small group of developers, and it has the following characteristics: - There are two main entities: Task and Person. The relationship between them is many-to-many (a person may be assigned to multiple tasks, a task may have multiple people assigned). - There will be a relatively small number of tasks and people. - Tasks will be added, removed, and modified frequently; people less so. - When a task or person is removed, integrity should be maintained by removing assignments involving the removed entity. - I'll start with a couple of basic views that let people see the tasks, their status, assignments, priorities, etc. Later, there'll probably be more. - I want to be able to add attributes to both entities at will. - Initially, I'll be maintaining the list, but I'd like to add the capability for people to sign up for tasks, and to change the status of tasks they're assigned to. - Security isn't an issue here, but avoiding blunders is. Questions: - What are the pros and cons of storing the entities in the ZODB vs. a relational DB? - How best to represent the many-to-many relationship? (Usually, in a relational DB, I'd use a relationship table such as PersonTaskAssignment.) In particular, how does Zope handle references between independent objects? - What Zope products should I consider using to aid in the implementation? - Is there already an app like this that I could adapt? Thanks for any good words you can offer, Don Dwiggins Competitive Knowledge, Inc. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] DUMB NEWBIE QUESTION
I had this problem myself. I'm using Mandrake 7.1. There are some things to do, depending on which distribution you are using. What I did was use KPackage to uninstall Zope. Then you get http://www.zope.org/Members/nemeth/howtos/zopeandapacherh61 and follow the instuctions. This works for RedHat and Mandrake. Should also work for Turbo Linux and may work for others. That should get you started. Hope that helps. Ron ./. CURTIS David wrote: Friends of Zope, I am trying to get MySQL database connection installed. I was told that I need to use source Zope instead of RPM's ! Fine with me but how do I install Zope source over RPM. I tried unpacking Zope Source and installing but it creates a new directory tar -xvf Zope-2.1 instead of creating a /var/zope. Also zope starts automatically. Are there techniques to work around this??? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] A Newbie question
Hi, I have seen on the howtos how to let apache serve static pages, but I still haven't seen an answer to the following question: Suppose I already have a big site that uses perl/cshell. Now suppose I want to move to Zope but without loosing any of that site or even converting. What would the best solution be? Example: www.foo.bar is a huge site. I want to move to Zope but wish to keep the site as is, only add zope objects with time. In other words, 90% of the site will stay static as is for a long time. How would you start this thing? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] A Newbie question
Hi, I have seen on the howtos how to let apache serve static pages, but I still haven't seen an answer to the following question: Suppose I already have a big site that uses perl/cshell. Now suppose I want to move to Zope but without loosing any of that site or even converting. What would the best solution be? I am assuming that Apache is already your 'Front End'. Even if it is not, not a big deal. Example: www.foo.bar is a huge site. I want to move to Zope but wish to keep the site as is, only add zope objects with time. In other words, 90% of the site will stay static as is for a long time. How would you start this thing? At my largest client I have a single Apache server which is front ending probably close to a dozen differenct web server serives running on various classes of machines. Quite a few of them are just linked with their normal URLs, but others are routed through Apaches proxy functions. Let's say that the main site is www.foo.bar as you suggested and you have Zope running under www.foo.bar:8080. If you had a directory under Zope that you wanted to serve called zoot, the normal URL of course would be www.foo.bar:8080/zoot. With the proxy functions you can redirect the URL www.foo.bar/zoot to point to www.foo.bar:8080/zoot and your end users are non-the-wiser for it. Is there a performance hit? Yes, a little. The sites that I work on under this arrangement are not high traffic sites by any stretch of the imagination, but they do serve important information to a select group. This allows us to have what looks like a seemless environment even though it is a function of Zope/Apache/IIS(ugh!!)/DominoGo/AlkalineSearch/WebFocus and other servers. Hope this helps. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] ZSQL newbie question
Hi, I have a text file object containing data I want to use to update a MySQL table. I can get the data using the LocalFS object product and the howto from jfarr, but I don't know how to use ZSQL method and DTML method to inject this data in the table. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Kamon Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] YA newbie question
Hi Randy, ... I figured this would be easy to do with Zope. I created a subdirectory called "modules" and put some modules into that; for example, "leftbuttons" is a dtml method containing a table data block which contains the standard left menu button HTML. I figured I could whip up a page and at the appropriate place in that page, do a 'dtml-var "modules.leftbuttons"' and have that code inserted into the page. That was my thinking. "leftbuttons" views properly by itself. However, when I try that dtml-var statment above, the page displays raw HTML. try the following: either: dtml-var "modules.leftbuttons()" or: dtml-with modules dtml-var leftbuttons /dtml-with the reason for this is: anything inside "" is a python expression, meaning it is interpreted as if you typed it into an running python-interpreter (with the zope-context around, of course). So python calls the ojects __repr__() method here to display it. For string-like objects __repr__==__str__ (with single quotes arount them) For some zope objects "self-displaying" means showing their data as source. If you use dtml-var without the quotes, zope does do some magic with the __call__() method of the object. Calling a dtml-method renders its output rather then the source. This is what is done in the first variant. NB: often you have to provide the documents context to the method, so the above call is somthing like dtml-var "modules.leftbuttons(_,_.None)" (or such like - have to look again over some documentation or the list for this) HTH Tino Wildenhain ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] YA newbie question
I've got a newbie question that I can't seem to find an answer to after checking docs/faqs. This is sort of design-related. Presently I write web pages as tabled modules which are each put into various *.html files. I then string pages together with various modules using server side includes along with whatever specific code/text goes into that page. I figured this would be easy to do with Zope. I created a subdirectory called "modules" and put some modules into that; for example, "leftbuttons" is a dtml method containing a table data block which contains the standard left menu button HTML. I figured I could whip up a page and at the appropriate place in that page, do a 'dtml-var "modules.leftbuttons"' and have that code inserted into the page. That was my thinking. "leftbuttons" views properly by itself. However, when I try that dtml-var statment above, the page displays raw HTML. Obviously I'm using a wrong tactic or am not grasping a concept here. Anyone want to smack me (again:-) with a clue-bat? TIA. -- Regards, | Moore's Law: Every 2 years CPU power will double. .| Randy| Gates' Law: Every 18 months software speed will halve. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] DTML newbie question on summation
try dtml-let total="_.int(SUNDAY) + _.int( ... _.int() method tells zope you want (integer) numbers. hth peter. On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Coleman, Bryan wrote: :I can't seem to add variables using let. I just get a concatination of the :integers. I am using ... : :dtml-let total="SUNDAY + MONDAY + TUESDAY + WEDNESDAY + THURSDAY + FRIDAY + :SATURDAY" : :The days represent hours but are stored as integers in the database. : :- Bryan Patrick Coleman : Questcon Technologies : (336)273-2428 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : :___ :Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope :** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** :(Related lists - : http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce : http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) : -- _ peter sabaini, mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
