[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Five and 2.9
Alan, does that address your concerns? Just understand that the Five approach is still being developed, so there's nothing to adopt yet. :) But I certainly encourage folks to participate and help Martijn figure out what the approach should be. Raphael, I think its great that Jim responded. Now we (collectively) need to get some usage out of Five. Jim, Thanks for explaining ZC's position re: FrankenZope or backporting CA into Zope2. One of the big questions that I believe is open is how to use more of zope.app in Zope 2 - specifically Schema/Widgets. I heard that Zope Corp. is using this in some projects. So - I asked if people to do some CMF/Plone implementation of Views in certain aspects. I am up for creating a Supplement to Plone to bolts on some of the technologies and uses it. Maybe specifically using it for doing in-place versioning. I urge the communities to use Plone or maybe a fork of it (or the CMF) to be a playground. Like Idle forked to land some major features for Python. Then it can be integrated back into subsequent projects. -- Alan Runyan Enfold Systems, LLC. - Principal Plone/Zope Training, Products, and Consulting http://www.enfoldsystems.com/ p. +1.713.942.2377 f. +1.832.201.8856 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Virus-scan module --may be OT
Hey all, This may be [Off Topic], but I think it has some relevance; there is an ever-growing demand for Zope, and for a user-centric system (each user, of course, coming from a wide range of techknowledgable backgrounds) in general. I think consideration of a base-level antivirus module is not only good strategy, but a potentially hot selling-point. Has there been any discussion on integrating a virus-scanning module into the core of Zope? I realize this is likely more of a CMF question; but I'm just wondering if there could be some Zope-level development of a anti-virus module, capable of being extended into the CMF (and subsequently Plone, etc.). It might additionally be extended into both file-upload applications, and potentially email applications--I guess like an antivirus API. Your thoughts would be appreciated, Kris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Prohibiting Spams on the List
Hello ! Fristly excuse me for cross-posting. Actually, I did not like to be the person who comes this up however the amount of spams which is propagated thru the lists is annoying. I wonder why the guys at Zope Inc. does not tweak the list settings so posting is only allowed by the members. I have some experience with MailMan and I know it can be done by changing the following options: AdminIface- Privacy Options - Sender Filters - default_memeber_moderation AdminIface - Privacy Options - Sender Filters - generic_nonmemberaction I hope if there are other open-spam zope/plone lists, their managers see my message. :-) Thanks, Mohsen, ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Five and 2.9
I heard that there was some discussion about the relationship between Martijn Faassen's Five project and future versions of Zope. I'd like to say, for the record, that I think Five is an important project. It is one of a number of projects to work out how to use features of Zope 3 in Zope 2. Most of the projects, such as the one here at Zope corp are not as public as Five. I can say, on our part, that this is not from a desire for secrecy, but from a lack of bandwidth to share what we have done. I applaud Martijn's effort to make this a broad and open effort. I view Five as an important step toward Zope 2.9 and encourage people to get involved with it. I certainly intend to be invlved as much as time allows. Of course, Five will change over time, as we get more experience with it. As with any technology, this entails some risk for early adopters. I think, however, that we'll fairly soon identify the parts that are stable and the parts that are subject to change. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Bendiciones y un gran día para ti junto a Dios
Si aceptas a Dios y a su hijo Jesús el Cristo, entonces visita esta página www.enelnombredecristo.com Lee su mensaje y que Dios te bendiga. Un abrazo Fernando Areces Pd: esto no es religión, es solo un mensaje real. Gracias ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Five and 2.9
Raphael Ritz wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I heard that there was some discussion about the relationship between Martijn Faassen's Five project and future versions of Zope. I'd like to say, for the record, that I think Five is an important project. It is one of a number of projects to work out how to use features of Zope 3 in Zope 2. Most of the projects, such as the one here at Zope corp are not as public as Five. I can say, on our part, that this is not from a desire for secrecy, but from a lack of bandwidth to share what we have done. I applaud Martijn's effort to make this a broad and open effort. I view Five as an important step toward Zope 2.9 and encourage people to get involved with it. I certainly intend to be invlved as much as time allows. Thanks for this clairification, Jim. Alan, does that address your concerns? Any reasons left, not to adopt the five approach to Zope 3? Just understand that the Five approach is still being developed, so there's nothing to adopt yet. :) But I certainly encourage folks to participate and help Martijn figure out what the approach should be. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Five and 2.9
alan runyan wrote: Alan, does that address your concerns? ... One of the big questions that I believe is open is how to use more of zope.app in Zope 2 - specifically Schema/Widgets. I heard that Zope Corp. is using this in some projects. I think we should not be squeemish about using zope.app. Widgets are the main reason that we are using Zope 3 in Zope 2. I would like to see most of the widget code get lifted up out of zope.app. This is of general interest (not just z2). So - I asked if people to do some CMF/Plone implementation of Views in certain aspects. I am up for creating a Supplement to Plone to bolts on some of the technologies and uses it. Maybe specifically using it for doing in-place versioning. I urge the communities to use Plone or maybe a fork of it (or the CMF) to be a playground. Like Idle forked to land some major features for Python. Then it can be integrated back into subsequent projects. I'll note that there is an opportinuty for CMF-based systems that might not be interesting to Five. Specifically, the obvious fact that the mechanisms in the CMF are similar to those in Zope 3. It should be possible to create a new kind of CMF layer that does view lookup. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Prohibiting Spams on the List
[Mohsen Moeeni] Fristly excuse me for cross-posting. Actually, I did not like to be the person who comes this up however the amount of spams which is propagated thru the lists is annoying. I wonder why the guys at Zope Inc. does not tweak the list settings so posting is only allowed by the members. Perhaps just the weight of history, and/or trying to keep the barriers to participation as low as possible. Speaking as zodb-dev's list admin, I'd be happy to restrict posting to members, *if* people don't object to the idea. I spend an increasingly resented part of each day doing list-admin triage (for zodb-dev and about 6 other mailing lists). A predictable irritation is that Mailman's answer to member? is based on the posting's sender's email address, but many people post from more than one account. If you want the default action for non-member posts to be hold for review, I won't do it -- I can't afford the additional time sink. reject is the no-manual-intervention default action, but it would place a new burden on members posting from non-member accounts (their posts would be rejected, at least until they asked the list admin to add their other posting accounts to Mailman's list of non-members to accept -- and they would need to do that on a per-list basis). ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
