[Zope-dev] [Zope 2] Skipping beta releases?
Hi, the current release model of Zope 2 is based on doing at least one beta release for minor releases (Zope 2.7.X where X 0). I have the strong impression that beta releases are not adopted and tested by most people. They usually use the final version of a release. So most bugs are discovered in final releases and not in beta releases. People interested in the most current version can and do download the sources from the CVS or SVN. So I propose to skip beta releases for minor releases in the future. Alpha and beta releases are fine for major releases. Beta releases for a minor release can be made if there are some changes or fixes that must be tested by people. Any comments? Andreas pgpWhFihmGUix.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [z3-five] Re: [Zope-dev] 2.9 goals
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 2. Juli 2005 20:52:54 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder whether it's possible to expose zope 3's authentication system to Zope 2, though that may be too much of a mismatch between security systems. Wasn't that a major goal of Jim for Z 2.9? Don't know if that is going to happen for Zope 2.9. What I meant though is to expose the pluggable auth part of Zope 3 as opposed to rewriting the zope 2 security system in terms of zope 3 security, which I believe Jim's goal is. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2] Skipping beta releases?
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 09:13 +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: Alpha and beta releases are fine for major releases. Beta releases for a minor release can be made if there are some changes or fixes that must be tested by people. Any comments? +1 ... alphas/betas should be done at your discretion. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2] Skipping beta releases?
On 3 Jul 2005, at 15:16, Chris McDonough wrote: On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 09:13 +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: Alpha and beta releases are fine for major releases. Beta releases for a minor release can be made if there are some changes or fixes that must be tested by people. Any comments? +1 It's a sad state of affairs that the wailing and gnashing of teeth only ever happens after a third-dot final release and few people bother with the betas. In the light of the effort needed to produce a Zope beta I support the decision. I personally would still continue doing betas for things like CMF, but then again the work needed to put together a release is a lot less. And I still live under the illusion that those betas see a modicum of testing ;) jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2] Skipping beta releases?
--On 3. Juli 2005 15:32:29 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally would still continue doing betas for things like CMF, but then again the work needed to put together a release is a lot less. And I still live under the illusion that those betas see a modicum of testing ;) Creating the release archive is not really the problem. The big pain in the a** is the software package product on zope.org and dealing with it :-/ Andreas pgpr4x5bMgtfY.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Extending Zope's ZConfig Schema in a Product?
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Right, seems that's my only choice for the time being. We currently do this in our 'start Z3' script before any of the Zope imports are done: # Disgusting hack to use our extended config file schema rather than the # Z3 one. TODO: Add command line options or other to Z3 to enable # overriding this -- StuartBishop 20050406 from zdaemon.zdoptions import ZDOptions ZDOptions.schemafile = the_path_to_our_schema_dot_xml You can then write a schema.xml that inherits from the Z3 one: schema extends=../../zope/app/server/schema.xml sectiontype name=foo key name=bar datatype=string default=Fnord / /sectiontype multisection name=+ type=foo attribute=foo / /schema We are trying to centralize all our knobs and buttons into one place - ZCML isn't suitable for tweaking an application being rolled out to multiple servers (dev boxes, staging servers, production server instances) because there is too much boilerplate and syntax around the knob you need to tweak, and way too complex for a drunk sysadmin to handle. eg. it is much easier to have 'smtp on' in launchpad.conf than it is to configure the correct IMailer directives and whatnot with he correct magic names so that the application sends email via SMTP rather than sendmail. So far, ZConfig has been way overkill for this but allows us to keep our config in the same config as the port numbers and logfile destinations (without having to generate it from some other source, which we will probably do in the future to solve some production rollout issues). -- Stuart Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stuartbishop.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
