Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-14 Thread yussel
wow- who pooped in your wheaties this morning? flamebait On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i swear i almost agree with that. big suprise there. that was the dumbest thing ive read on

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-13 Thread yussel
i swear i almost agree with that. sampling is a valid artform, but i don't think most of my favorite artists do sample other music. On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Learn hoq to make your own music or pay the guy that went thru all the trouble to get it out there. Sampling is

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i swear i almost agree with that. big suprise there. that was the dumbest thing ive read on this list that didnt come out of your mouth. or fingers, as the case may be. tom

RE: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many of you actually use samples in your music. I'm just curious. i jack drum hits and thats it. no loops, just hits. ive ripped little tiny vocal bits before, but they were meant to be

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ofcourse, all this sampling causes a lot of noise in the background, wich is GREAT. That way, I donĀ“t have to add a noise channel myself ;-) I like my stuff a bit dirty. i like it dirty too. i

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread James_Bucknell
it's illegal, but unenforceable. anyway, i like doing things that are illegal my country was founded by criminals. our de facto national anthem is about a sheep-stealing vagabond. our national hero is a bank robbing bushranger. i've always preferred an illegal warehouse party to a legal night

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Poivrenoir
Learn hoq to make your own music or pay the guy that went thru all the trouble to get it out there. Sampling is stealing. It's not paying tribute, or showing respect. Maybe if you were sampling and giving away your music, but you are not. You are struggling just like the guy you sampled

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread J.T.
Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal Learn hoq to make your own music or pay the guy that went thru all the trouble to get it out there. Sampling is stealing. It's not paying tribute, or showing respect. Maybe if you were sampling and giving away your music, but you

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread alex . bond
containing uncleared (but unrecognizable) samples. how on earth would they ever catch you? surely it's virtually impossible right? I don't see what this law changes that much. But then I always miss the point. No jokes today 313 I promise, although I do have a bit of a hangover. So might go a

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread alex . bond
my country was founded by criminals. our national hero is a bank robbing bushranger. our de facto national anthem is about a sheep-stealing vagabond Oh man. I'm loving it here already today. I've tried to point this out to several Aussies James. Only thing it ever got me was a black eye.

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread jurren baars
the way i see it, there is nothing new to this judgement. every musical piece is subject to several rights. the composition of the music is protected by copyright / droit d'auteur; the text of the vocals is also protected by copyright / droit d'auteur (so you can have several copyright owners

RE: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Ken Odeluga
PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal Learn hoq to make your own music or pay the guy that went thru all the trouble to get it out there. Sampling is stealing. It's not paying tribute, or showing respect. Maybe if you were sampling and giving away

RE: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The new ruling basically says that samples of ANY length need to be licensed. So you could, for example, take a recording, and make notes out of single cycle samples, and it would be illegal. they already cant enforce the laws that exist today How many of you actually use samples in your

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Sep 9, 2004, at 4:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how on earth would they ever catch you? surely it's virtually impossible right? Since so many people have been asking this: There is probably some watermarking algorithm that can be mixed with an audio signal. It would repeat a lot throughout

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Pascoe Mr S M
I think it would be almost impossible to come up with a watermark for audio that couldn't easily be blurred beyond recognition by fx, granular sampling, changing bitrate etc ... I read an article somewhere citing that previous attempts at digital watermarking on audio have proved to be

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Kent Williams
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:05:55 -0400, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 9, 2004, at 4:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how on earth would they ever catch you? surely it's virtually impossible right? Since so many people have been asking this: There is probably some watermarking

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal 09/09/2004 06:05

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Pascoe Mr S M [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it would be almost impossible to come up with a watermark for audio that couldn't easily be blurred beyond recognition by fx, granular sampling, changing bitrate etc ... I read an

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only reason you hate this ruling so much is that now you realize your own creative level is almost non existent, and youre screwed whats it like being green with warts living under a bridge? tom

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread alex . bond
The only reason you hate this ruling so much is that now you realize your own creative level is almost non existent, and youre screwed ha! I missed this comment! Surely you're not suggesting for example that, say, Carl Craig is not creative? He doesn't do that much with his samples. Alex

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread jbartuski
-based but disguised so well we're not even aware of it, even if we are familiar with the original work. - jobot - Original Message - From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:45 am Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal this is like a right-wing

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-09 Thread J.T.
@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal well said, J.T. I knew somebody else on the list would voice my opinion before I got a chance. The granularity in today's music production software such as Ableton and Cubase, coupled with both software and outboard hardware

(313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Kent Williams
http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=43259 What a bunch of killjoys they are in the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals. This is a call to arms: Everyone needs to make a track made ENTIRELY of uncleared samples. The new ruling basically says that samples of ANY length need to be

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=43259 What a bunch of killjoys they are in the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals. This is a call to arms: Everyone needs to make a track made

RE: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
the hell out of myself and my environment. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal -- Original Message

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Kent Williams
environment. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal -- Original Message -- From

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Maarten Baute
How many of you actually use samples in your music. I'm just curious. EVERY sound I use in my productions is a sample! I mostly sample single notes from soul/funk/disco/jazz/krautrock/postpunk records. I am now making a record with an organ key of a herbie hancock song, a clap from body music by

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Maarten Baute
From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] EVERY sound I use in my productions is a sample! I mostly sample single notes from soul/funk/disco/jazz/krautrock/postpunk records. I am now making a record with an organ key of a herbie hancock song, a clap from body music by the strikers, a kick from an

Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Matt MacQueen
On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:08 PM, Maarten Baute wrote: EVERY sound I use in my productions is a sample! I mostly sample single notes from soul/funk/disco/jazz/krautrock/postpunk records. I am now making a record with an organ key of a herbie hancock song, a clap from body music by the strikers, a