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2009-09-08 Thread Ravinder S Mann
Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail. Anyhow. . . Interview with DJ Bone Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and haterz. http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1353/Interview:_DJ_Bone.html mean I could easily wake up tomorrow and say, “You know

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2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dust
On 8 Sep 2009, at 08:43, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail. Anyhow. . . Interview with DJ Bone Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and haterz. http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1353/Interview:_DJ_Bone.html

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2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview On 8 Sep 2009, at 08:43, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail. Anyhow. . . Interview with DJ Bone Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and haterz. http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog

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2009-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:33 AM To: Martin Dust; Ravinder S Mann Cc: list 313 Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview Plenty of DJs play there. Israel, Indonesia, Britain and the US too. ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide

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2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
; Martin Dust; Ravinder S Mann Cc: list 313 Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play there nowadays. Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from overseas because of the repressive State regime? I don't see the logic

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2009-09-08 Thread Ravinder S Mann
Its a tricky one. Bringing the music to a potentially huge market v. playing insert oppressive state but I doubt he got paid loads or paid any money to sponsor the said oppressive state. It might even inspire listeners to chanllenge the status quo. Ravinder. 2009/9/8 Martin Dust

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2009-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Dust; Ravinder S Mann Cc: list 313 Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview When Surgeon played out there, it was largely to an ex-pat crowd, rather than 'the people' Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken

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2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dust
On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play there nowadays. Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from overseas because of the repressive State regime? I don't see the logic of that. As Rob

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2009-09-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken
: (313) DJ Bones interview On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play there nowadays. Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from overseas because of the repressive State regime? I don't see the logic

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2009-09-08 Thread David Powers
I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all! ~David Martin Dust wrote: On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play there nowadays. Why should

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2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
16:20 To: Martin Dust Cc: Ken Odeluga; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all! ~David Martin Dust wrote: On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Indeed, it's

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2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
anyone Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: JT Stewart [mailto:etmach...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 September 2009 17:19 To: Robert Taylor Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview China is a big country. In some places

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2009-09-08 Thread 313
this echoes my sentiments also. Having issues with China's politics is one thing, but the place is huger than Europe... who is to say what some fella in Bejing would make of a dj with three turn tables who calls himself Bone. ;-) $0.02 China is a big country. In some places people are

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2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dust
On 8 Sep 2009, at 17:31, JT Stewart wrote: Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in generalities. But you did seem to insinuating that only ex-pats would come out, as per your Surgeon example. Perhaps I read into that? It seemed to represent a larger point. That was me JT, I

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2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
To: Robert Taylor Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in generalities. But you did seem to insinuating that only ex-pats would come out, as per your Surgeon example. Perhaps I read into that? It seemed to represent a larger point

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2009-09-08 Thread 313
Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: JT Stewart [mailto:etmach...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 September 2009 17:32 To: Robert Taylor Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in generalities

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2009-09-08 Thread David Powers
The UK may not as bad, but objectively, the US is the world leader in repression as evidenced by the US incarceration rate. Note I'm not arguing whether such is repression is right or wrong, nor am I presenting causal factors; I am merely stating that we imprison more people here than anywhere

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2009-09-08 Thread JT Stewart
haven't quoted anyone Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088  VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: JT Stewart [mailto:etmach...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 September 2009 17:19 To: Robert Taylor Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bones interview China is a big

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2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dust
On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:20, David Powers wrote: I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as China. And you'd be wrong but do you really believe that David? By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all! Most shouldn't anyway ;) m

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2009-09-08 Thread Robert Taylor
-Original Message- From: 3...@coke-smyth.net [mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net] Sent: 08 September 2009 17:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview there is also the issue of 'accepting elitist techno' into Chinese territory too, no? I was surprised that he was even allowed

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2009-09-08 Thread JT Stewart
China is a big country. In some places people are persecuted for things they are not elsewhere. It's a very complex country and as everyone knows it's in the midst of a rapid transformation. Who are you, as an uninformed foreigner, to presume you understand the politics there...and to then make

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2009-09-08 Thread kent williams
I think it's accurate to say that if the Chinese government thought techno music represented a threat to their continued control of China, techno DJs would not be allowed in. Personally, I work with a lot of Chinese people, and have friends working in China, and as with the USA, it's important to

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2009-09-08 Thread Fred Heutte
x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: 3...@coke-smyth.net [mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net] Sent: 08 September 2009 17:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) DJ Bones interview there is also the issue of 'accepting elitist techno' into Chinese territory too