Synchronicity ;-)
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2008 20:43
We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up and
Archer uses it again.
This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop
performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs
mnml thread seemed to be going.
I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the
same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each
Well said Kent!
Last couple of years i saw so many of there debates, debates whether
or not techno with only a laptop is bad techno, analogue synthesis is
the way. The thing is that when this whole thing started i had to do
exactly the same discussion but then the thing we had to fight
Totally agree. But there will always be people feeling hurted by the
ones who disturb their own status quo. The thing repeats on and on
and on.
A 70 year old rich guy claims that popular music is not music, an 50
year old claims that music played by guitar bands is real music, and
music
What do you base this comment on, just your own experience or a wider
view? As a primarily (but not solely) hardware producer I certainly
don't agree with that statement - I neither fear nor am jealous or even
smug about laptop producers, I simply prefer making music with
hardware. Yes, it
I think it often boils down to the coolness factor amongst haters on forums,
clapping each ones shoulder plus the notorious my dick is longer than yours
boogie.
From my experience, above are valid in ~90% of such discussions.
Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if
the
Oh don't get me wrong, i don think there is anything wrong with having
a preference on making music with hardware or software or a mix. My
point was simply that most of the discussion i had with people about
if music made equipment Z or by workflow Y is based on some form of
jealousy or
kent williams a écrit :
This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop
performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs
mnml thread seemed to be going.
I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the
same people launching the same mortars
1. Judge the results, not the technique.
Totally true, why it's so important what is used if the result is good/right and
deserves the title of 'art' or offers the music to go further. If an artist
records good music using a pure hardware analog modular and another one NI
Reaktor (for example).
Frank Glazer a écrit :
My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by
the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower
than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds,
and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label
since it's so
Lest we forget, how many absolutely sh1t records were put out in
Chicago and Detroit in the late 80s/early 90s 'golden age' of techno
and house?
We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up and
Archer uses it again.
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Michael Pujos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AND/OR the crap gets dug up and sold for DOLLAZ as SUPER RARE CHICAGO
ACID HOUSE TEST PRE on Discogs/Ebay/Gemm
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:43 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lest we forget, how many absolutely sh1t records were put out in
Chicago and Detroit in the late 80s/early
Well, it _is_ SUPER RARE, you gotta give 'em that... :)
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AND/OR the crap gets dug up and sold for DOLLAZ as SUPER RARE CHICAGO
ACID HOUSE TEST PRE on Discogs/Ebay/Gemm
Michael, when small bass/drums/guitar combos came out, people said
the same thing: now anyone can do music and it's gonna be crappy.
When producers didn't have to learn musical theory or music notation
to make music, people said the same thing. Probably, people said the
same thing when
Kowalsky a écrit :
Michael, when small bass/drums/guitar combos came out, people said the
same thing: now anyone can do music and it's gonna be crappy. When
producers didn't have to learn musical theory or music notation to
make music, people said the same thing. Probably, people said the same
It seems that we agree in many points. So, no reason to take this
further as a debate. I usually don't like the functional music, made
for the (lousy) DJ.
I've seen a lot of djs being fooled buy some dj unfriendly UR tunes,
wich the first kick is not the 1 in the tempo count. Funny. :-D
On
:43 PM
To: Michael Pujos
Cc: Frank Glazer; 313
Subject: Re: (313) techno vs technique
Lest we forget, how many absolutely sh1t records were put out in
Chicago and Detroit in the late 80s/early 90s 'golden age' of techno
and house?
We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up
But the previous iteration to which you refer was in turn much easier
than the wave before it, when you actually had to get 3-6 (or more)
people to agree on a tune and play in relatively perfectly
synchronization, get into a studio, record it and mix it analogously,
and promote and distribute it.
As far as this original topic goes...I've created music on hardware
and software, and find advantages to both. It is the user's knowledge
and input rather than the machines. The problem I see is usually
between the interface and the chair...not the equipment. I have known
tons of people who
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