RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Robert Taylor
. In my not so humble opinion of course ;) -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:59 AM To: Stewart Caig; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) My take on Star Wars is that it's 1930s sci-fi

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Brendan Nelson
) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) It also kickstarted the exploitation of kids through merchandising. Hollywood went seriously down hill after Star Wars' success (the triumph of style over substance), not that that is Lucas' fault. It now only seems concerned on capitalising on past

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread alex . bond
I just *wanted* to have a model of the Millennium Falcon. Me too. My mate Dan had one of these when we were little. (Dan does those critical phase records with kirk.) I remember we threw it out of the window to see if it would fly. It didn't. and it went in a little pond. What a rip-off.

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Robert Taylor
The Godfather and Taxi Driver anymore IMO, so I've been hoist by my own pertard yet agian :) -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 11:28 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) I'd say

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Brendan Nelson
-Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 August 2004 13:39 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) I guess you're right - Star Wars is a particular bugbear of mine, but it is more to do with what

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Robert Taylor
I think you might be onto something! -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 11:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) I think Star Wars is a particular bugbear of yours partly

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2004-08-16 Thread Martin Dust
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 11:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) I think Star Wars is a particular bugbear of yours partly because so many people - especially in the world of electronic music - like it so much ;)

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2004-08-16 Thread Ken Odeluga
Come again Martin? Mr G? Are we talking use of samples here? I'm well behind on all this! k -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:17 PM To: 313 List; Robert Taylor Subject: Re: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) I've

Re: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Martin Dust
Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:17 PM To: 313 List; Robert Taylor Subject: Re: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) I've never liked Star Wars and boy did I try - the only thing I really liked was the robot names and a few classic line for Mr. G Cheers Martin

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2004-08-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The proportion of films coming out of Hollywood which are particularly insightful or thought-provoking seems pretty much the same now as it was in, say, the late 1960s. To think otherwise

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2004-08-16 Thread Greg Earle
[This is getting 'WAY OT. My last comment on the thread.] On Aug 16, 2004, at 12:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that it's misleading to imagine Hollywood cinema prior to Star Wars as having put substance over style; it had been pretty schlocky since its inception, IMHO. The proportion

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Robert Taylor
Tut! Namedropping is bad form, as Christpher Walken was telling me the other day -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 4:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) Re: Blade Runner. There's

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Brendan Nelson
-Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 August 2004 17:29 much the same now as it was in, say, the late 1960s. To think otherwise (films were much better in the past) is, I'd suggest, another way in which nostalgia can override one's critical

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2004-08-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
The general point I'd make is this: when someone in 2004 thinks to themselves, say, what movies came out in 1971?, I would be pretty confident that they'll forget a whole heap of awful cash-ins, turkeys, flops and bombs that came out this year. Hopefully they wouldn't mention Star Wars because it

RE: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films)

2004-08-16 Thread Brendan Nelson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 August 2004 18:25 The general point I'd make is this: when someone in 2004 thinks to themselves, say, what movies came out in 1971?, I would be pretty confident that they'll forget a whole heap of awful

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2004-08-16 Thread yussel
@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Star Wars (was RE: (313) Techno Films) My take on Star Wars is that it's 1930s sci-fi visually rendered with an immense 21st-century budget. Immature, swashbuckling, aimed-at-kids romp - yep, that's all true. But that's pretty much the form. It's undeniable