On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, james toym...@0xabadba.be wrote:
I suspect lsub will be back up very shortly. If you cannot wait until
then feel free to mail me off list and I will send you a copy.
Sorry for this. The people from the University have been doing some maintenance
on the
Hi all,
I have a Dell Inspiron with a Broadcom BCM4401 ethernet controller that does
not seem to be recognized by Plan9.
The same problem arose few years ago: http://9fans.net/archive/2005/07/9
Has it been solved yet?
Thanks!
Lorenzo.
You'll notice it still tries mount(2) after stat(2) reveals that
mount.9p doesn't exist. mount(8) always looks for a helper and will
call it if it exists, but it doesn't fail when no helper is present.
As others have said, mount(2) doesn't do name resolution, but by my
reading that should give
/n/sources/contrib/mason/ac97.tgz
Worked out of the box, just had to drop it in place and recompile the kernel.
-sqweek
2009/7/12 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
With which ac97 driver?
uriel
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, sqweeksqw...@gmail.com wrote:
lies! we had ac97 working on the t23 at
I'm sorry but during this weekend we had a power down that
we have scheduled once a year in the entire building.
Things should be back online now.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, james toym...@0xabadba.be wrote:
Corey
==8==
Introduction to OS abstractions using Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Two
mount: Protocol not supported
There was a time where you had to modprobe 9p2000 first. Should be worth a try.
eeke...@fastmail.fm (Ethan Grammatikidis) writes:
The only pale colours on the South Downs are the haze-blued hills of
the North Downs in the far distance, and the sky when it's
overcast. The middle and foreground are occupied by very strong
greens, except for some fields near harvest time
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:14:33 GMT
Paul Donnelly paul-donne...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
eeke...@fastmail.fm (Ethan Grammatikidis) writes:
The only pale colours on the South Downs are the haze-blued hills of
the North Downs in the far distance, and the sky when it's
overcast. The middle and
ac97 works fine for me, on 3 different machines.
just to say it here. i put this driver to my contrib,
but aki is the author! is just added some lines of code.
but there seem to be a bug, when used with juke(7).
i get ton's of these messages when i play the first
song
qlock: 0xf018d159:
ac97 works fine for me, on 3 different machines.
just to say it here. i put this driver to my contrib,
but aki is the author! is just added some lines of code.
but there seem to be a bug, when used with juke(7).
i get ton's of these messages when i play the first
song
qlock: 0xf018d159:
This sounds promising for that ICH laptop with the 320G drive that
magically doesn't work (though the 120GB one that was in it was fine).
How do I get this on a disc to try it out?
what was the symptom again?
- erik
This sounds promising for that ICH laptop with the 320G drive that
magically doesn't work (though the 120GB one that was in it was fine).
How do I get this on a disc to try it out?
can you pxe?
- erik
2009/7/13 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
after a week of fighting with an atom with ich7r sata in
ide mode, i finally found the secret sauce that keeps it
from hanging. i pushed out a changed
quanstro/9load-e820 and quanstro/sd which boot on my
atom machine in ide mode without causing
...a colour space diagram showing the range a monitor...
More info than you wanted here:
http://www.poynton.com/Poynton-color.html
-Steve
2009/7/13 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
This sounds promising for that ICH laptop with the 320G drive that
magically doesn't work (though the 120GB one that was in it was fine).
How do I get this on a disc to try it out?
can you pxe?
Not easily. The issue was a few bits in PCI
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:44:23 +0100
Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
...a colour space diagram showing the range a monitor...
More info than you wanted here:
http://www.poynton.com/Poynton-color.html
Cheers!
--
Ethan Grammatikidis
Those who are slower at parsing information must
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:24 AM, sqweeksqw...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, note that if you auth you'll need supporting software from
p9p also. Factotum and srv -a, in particular, then give v9fs a -o
trans=unix.
Any chance we can get fossil integration into 9mount directly? Most of
the code is
Anyway, note that if you auth you'll need supporting software from
p9p also. Factotum and srv -a, in particular, then give v9fs a -o
trans=unix.
Would you mind documenting this a little more explicitly and posting
it somewhere handy? I'm sure you've given enough hints here to make
it work,
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:24 AM, sqweeksqw...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, note that if you auth you'll need supporting software from
p9p also. Factotum and srv -a, in particular, then give v9fs a -o
trans=unix.
I don't think that auth is working with v9fs at all. The auth support
got dropped
If someone pulls together a verified HOWTO for the auth case, I'd be
happy to add it to the Documentation/filesystems/9p.txt
-eric
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
Anyway, note that if you auth you'll need supporting software from
p9p also. Factotum and srv
Hi,
Has anyone had any success setting up aux/sshserve on Plan 9? I've
used aux/ssh_genkey, but have had no luck getting the server to accept
connections...
Thanks,
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:58 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Mon Jul 13 11:48:01 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
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Unfortunately, the controller used in that series of SSD's
has a pretty bad reputation.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531p=17
That said, it's the second version of it and it is a lot
better than the first. It might also be that it is less of
a problem with Venti, I don't know
Adding the support we had before the access= support is probably easy,
but I would like to make it better and support authentication for
multiple users. Still no idea what is the correct way. :( Any
suggestions are welcome.
I'm glad you brought this up because this is a conversation I wanted
to
Well, IMHO it would be nice to have it named (or symlinked as) mount.9p
folks who mount as root could get the helper automatically. This
would be nice for the standard Linux admin who is mounting crap as
root anyways and trips over the DNS resolution error because all
they are used to is NFS
When I need remote access I nowadays use v9fs+ssh.
Multi-user auth in kernel like you propose sounds nice and consistent,
but too complicated. It doesn't fit linux, and thus an additional
deamon would mean one more place of security relevant code prone to
bugs. And even if this is only intended to
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:44 PM, hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
Well, IMHO it would be nice to have it named (or symlinked as) mount.9p
folks who mount as root could get the helper automatically. This
would be nice for the standard Linux admin who is mounting crap as
root anyways and trips
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:45 PM, hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
When I need remote access I nowadays use v9fs+ssh.
Multi-user auth in kernel like you propose sounds nice and consistent,
but too complicated. It doesn't fit linux, and thus an additional
deamon would mean one more place of
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Eric Van Hensbergeneri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:45 PM, hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
When I need remote access I nowadays use v9fs+ssh.
Multi-user auth in kernel like you propose sounds nice and consistent,
but too complicated. It
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let
anyone mount anything now is that no one uses per-process namespaces.
That's probably fine on your desktop, but not on a server where 20
people try to mount
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:16 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let
anyone mount anything now is that no one uses per-process namespaces.
That's probably
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Eric Van Hensbergeneri...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure how easy or difficult this would be inside the kernel -- the
central problem last time I looked at it was it was difficult to
unshare namespace after the fork.
Well, my mount command cheated. When you ran the
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let
anyone mount anything now is that no one uses per-process namespaces.
That's probably
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Eric Van Hensbergeneri...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure how easy or difficult this would be inside the kernel -- the
central problem last time I looked at it was it was difficult to
unshare
It would be nice to fix up mounts so that you didn't need to be root
and all that crap, and then make it the default, but I doubt Linus
would let it fly. I get the feeling that private namespaces are viewed
like chroots: a security feature no one but pros needs. Unfortunately
not many linux
So, I finally got tired of slow desktop switching with the nvidia
driver and thought I'd give vesa another shot. However, upon
rebooting with vesa in 1600x1200x16 mode, I'm seeing strange artifacts
when using vncv and fgb's equis; an example from vnc is shown at
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:50 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote:
It would be nice to fix up mounts so that you didn't need to be root
and all that crap, and then make it the default, but I doubt Linus
would let it fly. I get the feeling that private namespaces are viewed
like
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
We hope to. One of the reasons it would actually be unwise to let
anyone mount anything
(then again, i have a feeling the same could be said of
plan 9.)
Of course, everything has cruft. But Plan 9 is decent to imitate since
it is less crufty.
not only is plan 9 cleaner, it's core ideas are all high quality,
and one can understand it. so when it comes time to add one's
own
you need to find the niche and provide programs, which people can just
use. Or you need to find the niche that lets other people write
programs, and we're not where we need to be on that score. It's still
too hard for people to write servers and there's no clear answer on
which library to use.
I usually get in a situation like the one below, when I forget to
format my file with carriage return in acme. It doesn't happen that
often, but I was wondering if anybody has some method in there usage
of acme to avoid it completely.
--- In acme it will look like
Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only
allowed) behavior?
I've wondered if there's enough context information
that the fs driver could fake per-process mount points
directly. For example, I mount v9fs on /n. Initially
I have no remote mounts in there, but I have
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Eric Van Hensbergeneri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
We hope to.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:08 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
you need to find the niche and provide programs, which people can just
use. Or you need to find the niche that lets other people write
programs, and we're not where we need to be on that score. It's still
too hard for people
On Mon Jul 13 20:43:21 EDT 2009, news...@lava.net wrote:
Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only
allowed) behavior?
I've wondered if there's enough context information
that the fs driver could fake per-process mount points
directly. For example, I mount v9fs on
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Tim Newshamnews...@lava.net wrote:
Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only
allowed) behavior?
I've wondered if there's enough context information
that the fs driver could fake per-process mount points
directly.
Lucho's v9fs auth
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Eric Van Hensbergeneri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul
I don't see why should we do tricks like that. We have support for
private namespaces, why should we make the linux code even more
complicated?
Thanks,
Lucho
On Monday, July 13, 2009, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote:
Could we solve this by making private mounts the default (or only
I believe Priyanka has some significant work on getting private
per-process namespaces in Glendix for this year's GSoC.
--dho
Building plan9port on an arm box I get this message several times:
sh: cd: 4: can't cd to armv5tel
At the end of the build the only binary in plan9/bin is mk:
$ file bin/* | grep ELF
bin/mk:ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux
2.6.14, dynamically linked
+plan9port-dev
bcc: 9fans
I have just created a mailing list for these questions.
It is not documented anywhere yet - yours is the first.
I would have called the mailing list plan9port-help
but apparently -help is not a valid mailing list suffix.
plan9port-...@googlegroups.com
There is also an
I don't see why should we do tricks like that. We have support for
private namespaces, why should we make the linux code even more
complicated?
Some of us use systems other than Linux. Also, it may be
easier to sell one idea (v9fs) than two ideas (v9fs +
private name spaces). It seems that
I usually get in a situation like the one below, when I forget to
format my file with carriage return in acme. It doesn't happen that
often, but I was wondering if anybody has some method in there usage
of acme to avoid it completely.
it's tempting to claim the solution is to not use vi.
do
On Mon Jul 13 19:58:54 EDT 2009, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
So, I finally got tired of slow desktop switching with the nvidia
driver and thought I'd give vesa another shot.
i have had trouble with vesa cursor in 1600x1200. generally when
i have trouble, the cursor won't move at all. one
erik quanstrom wrote:
8c silently accept the above definition and sizeof(U) is 100. ???
The sources which include the definition of NeverDefined are
regularly compiled too and sizeof(U) = 100 + sizeof(NeverDefined).
i think the issue is that there isn't currently a distinction
between
Yes, but in my example - sorry - NeverDefined doesn't mean declared and
defined elsewhere (or not) but not declared .and. not defined.
true enough. the patch i sent still rejects your construct.
i'd still be interested to hear a perspective of someone with
more experience with the c compiler.
Yes, but in my example - sorry - NeverDefined doesn't mean declared and
defined elsewhere (or not) but not declared .and. not defined.
no and yes.
union U
{
struct
{
struct NeverDefined nf; // Unknown, definition
not #included
} S1
};
declares a struct named
I have a variant using Inferno right now, mounting the file system directly
from the stdin/stdout of the emu.
This isn't very practical in my case, because I need to port emu
to the Yeeloong first. Hiro suggested using v9fs+ssh, I'd be
interested in that option as a stopgap, but again some
On the security side, I helped get the plan9-style authentication
device in the mainline kernel. It's in staging. I guess the PAM module
is 90% done, but they need some help if anyone is interested.
Where do I look for this? I don't know Linux or PAM well enough to
believe I can help, but one
I'm finding that vesa works nicely on
my terminal in terms of speed, and I'm not seeing any difference in 16
bit vs. 32 bit color.
VESA has stopped being useful on my SiS 55x, flash based workstation.
The symptoms are an insistence that the video inputs are incorrect
(the monitor complains).
I've wondered if there's enough context information
that the fs driver could fake per-process mount points
directly.
A totally uneducated shot in the dark: would having a userspace
mount command that creates a private namespace (vaguely what you
describe in your note) not be a good starting
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Mon Jul 13 19:58:54 EDT 2009, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
So, I finally got tired of slow desktop switching with the nvidia
driver and thought I'd give vesa another shot.
i have had trouble with vesa cursor in
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