[9fans] Plan 9 BoF - Carson, LA

2009-07-17 Thread Akshat Kumar
Any Plan 9 box heads in Carson getting their groove on at the Coldplay concert in the Home Depot Stadium would make for a great BoF meeting. We might discuss audio drivers for Plan 9 so that we can listen to our favourite band(s). And perhaps lyric synthesizing. In all reality, I'd prefer not to di

[9fans] lftp patch for plan9

2009-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
ryan thomas built an lftp patch for plan 9 to ease moving files to the plan 9 system at coraid. the patch implements netkey. http://www.mail-archive.com/lftp-de...@uniyar.ac.ru/msg01677.html - erik

Re: [9fans] Help needed - Boot Failure...

2009-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> Video: ATI Rage XL > Ethernet: (2) Intel Pro/100 ports > CDROM as master on secondary > Dual Pentium III 933MHz, 1GB ECC RAM > PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse (3 button Logitech) nice mouse. > ATA and SCSI HDD > > Upon booting the "live CD", I got the following: > > PBS1... > Plan 9 from Bell Labs >

[9fans] Help needed - Boot Failure...

2009-07-17 Thread Lyle Bickley
I am new to Plan 9 - so I started introducing myself to it with the "live CD" running on an older industrial single board computer (Celeron). Everything worked as expected - including the install. Given those good results, I decided to create a server. I grabbed an older Supermicro Server which

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Uriel
Werc is hardly a contribution worth mentioning (just a bunch of rc script after all!), but some of us have put much blood, sweat and tears in trying to make Plan 9 successful and save it from eternal oblivion, and it is frustrating when people say 'you have no right to complain', *everyone* has a r

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Uriel wrote: > [...] >> Maybe you can tell us what *you* have done to help Plan 9? Or is your >> greatest contribution to act all obnoxious and condescending towards >> people that despite their limited and flawed abil

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:07 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > I for one am quite grateful for the sources machine. > My guess is if we didn't have it, we'd have to create a grid based > "contrib", and we'd probably have to have some kind of 9grid based registry > to find everyone's contributions. I'm n

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Uriel wrote: [...] > Maybe you can tell us what *you* have done to help Plan 9? Or is your > greatest contribution to act all obnoxious and condescending towards > people that despite their limited and flawed abilities have tried very > hard to do their best to make

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:55 AM, John Floren wrote: > I seem to remember that you were offered the opportunity to take over > sources, since you can obviously run it much better. What? When? Where? > What happened to that? Maybe you can tell me, as you seem to know much better than me what has

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:08 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > a few things: > > > > 1) note that when the web site is down, sources may still be up > > (someone in IRC made this mistake). i run an automated availability > > check of sources every

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Uriel wrote: > > And stop the totally false condescending 'you should volunteer to > contribute' nonsense, because *many* people have offered their help, > and help is not welcome, so before repeating such crap, maybe you > could bother to at least point out how peo

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:08 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > Seriously, we're lucky to have sources /at all/. Instead of > complaining, maybe the most concerned people should volunteer their > time to help maintain sources, or put up mirrors of their own. Seriously, but I can't let this nonsense go unans

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > a few things: > > 1) note that when the web site is down, sources may still be up > (someone in IRC made this mistake). i run an automated availability > check of sources every 10 minutes and didn't see an outage. If you are thirsty in the m

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread ron minnich
apropos of this, 9grid.net is back. Thanks to the guys at LBL for hosting this machine. ron

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > a few things: > > 1) note that when the web site is down, sources may still be up > (someone in IRC made this mistake). i run an automated availability > check of sources every 10 minutes and didn't see an outage. > > 2) Ethan, i'm not sure i

[9fans] (no subject)

2009-07-17 Thread drivers
All, I've fixed the last bug (thank god) its hard trying to problem solve and learn a language at the same time but at least I'm still having fun (and python isn't like learning C ;). Additionally now I have this bug which is mutually exclusive from any of the mmap stuff. But at least

[9fans] hg-git on plan9

2009-07-17 Thread drivers
Ok, a few more things...perhaps someone with a bit of python knowledge might be able to shed some light on this. There is a simple way of fixing this by writing a custom mmap.py so everything is done transparently; however, I think I am missing a few things. def simple_mmap(f, offset, s

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
a few things: 1) note that when the web site is down, sources may still be up (someone in IRC made this mistake). i run an automated availability check of sources every 10 minutes and didn't see an outage. 2) Ethan, i'm not sure if you realize it or not, but your comment is entirely unhelpful and

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-17 Thread drivers
Cinap recommended this and I am working on it right now :) -- any other suggestions are very welcome. Thanks Russ. respectfully ++james --- Begin Message --- You don't need mmap to implement this mmap. If it's just trying to map files into memory read-only, you could implement it by open, stat

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-17 Thread Russ Cox
You don't need mmap to implement this mmap. If it's just trying to map files into memory read-only, you could implement it by open, stat to find length, malloc, readn, and return the pointer. This is what the original linuxemu did (and still does?). Russ

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-17 Thread drivers
ok, so there is another snag i've just found out. The new dulwich code which hg-git relies on requires mmap -- which we do not provide in ape currently. I'm new to plan9; but am not afraid to code up things that are useful. I do need to know what the best idea is for how to resolve t

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread hiro
Some people don't use irc. It's working here. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote: > On 07/16/2009 10:15 PM, Adriano Verardo wrote: >> Maintenance ? > > Don't you think that a channel #plan9 on irc.freenode.net could have > been better alternative to ask and, or report such

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:38:32 +0200 Adriano Verardo wrote: > Maintenance ? > > adriano > No, just the normal pattern of behaviour for that site. :/ -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving.

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 07/16/2009 10:15 PM, Adriano Verardo wrote: > Maintenance ? Don't you think that a channel #plan9 on irc.freenode.net could have been better alternative to ask and, or report such things. -- Balwinder S "bdheeman" DheemanRegistered Linux User: #229709 Anu'z li...@home (Unix Shoppe)