On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:30 AM, ron minnich wrote:
Given these systems with mtrr issues.
Would it be possible to get:
- output from pci so we can see what memory ranges are in use on
your machine
0.2.0: vid 03.00.00 1ab8/1131 11 0:4001 256 1:c000 16777216
2:4401 16
0.3.0: br
On Aug 3, 2009, at 9:12 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
Wow Where's parallels 4. I doubt I qualify for a free one.
And VMWare Fusion really sucks with Plan 9 at the moment :-(
You could always try Q: http://www.kju-app.org/. I find it unbearably
slow but it is free. I thought VirtualBox
2. do we have anybody successfully managing that much storage that is
also spread across the nodes? And if so, what's the best practices
out there to make the client not worry about where does the storage
actually come from (IOW, any kind of proxying of I/O, etc)
http://labs.google.
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach wrote:
> Wow Where's parallels 4. I doubt I qualify for a free one. And VMWare
> Fusion really sucks with Plan 9 at the moment :-(
qemu works well enough for me on FreeBSD & Linux but not on a
Mac. VirtualBox doesn't run plan9 but it runs F
> >
> > Google?
>
> the exception that proves the rule? they emphatically
> don't go for posix semantics...
why would purveryers of 9p give a rip about posix sematics?
- erik
> Well, with Linux, at least you have a benefit of a gazillions of FS
> clients being available either natively or via FUSE.
Do you have a link to a site which lists interesting FUSE filesystems,
I am definitely not trying to troll, I am always intrigued by others
ideas of how to reprisent data/AP
On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:20 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
strange.
could one of you having trouble with vesa + mtrr try
vesa + the pat patch on sources in the saved patch
directory?
I fear I may not have applied the patch correctly:
/sys/src/9/pc% mk CONF=pcf
8c -FTVw devarch.c
devarch.c:733 not en
2009/8/4 erik quanstrom :
>> >
>> > Google?
>>
>> the exception that proves the rule? they emphatically
>> don't go for posix semantics...
>
> why would purveryers of 9p give a rip about posix sematics?
from ron:
> 10,000 machines, working on a single app, must have access to a common
> file store
> I fear I may not have applied the patch correctly:
>
> /sys/src/9/pc% mk CONF=pcf
> 8c -FTVw devarch.c
> devarch.c:733 not enough function arguments: cpuid
> devarch.c:733 argument prototype mismatch "IND ULONG" for "IND INT":
> cpuid
> devarch.c:739 argument prototype mismatch "INT" for "IND
Just a note on using E with p9p. I forgot to start the plumber. That's
kind of important if you want to use E. :-)
Aaron W. Hsu
--
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. -- C. S. Lewis
>they emphatically don't go for posix semantics...
what are "posix semantics"?
2009/8/4 C H Forsyth :
>>they emphatically don't go for posix semantics...
>
> what are "posix semantics"?
perhaps wrongly, i'd assumed that the posix standard
implied some semantics in defining its file API, and
ron was referring to those. perhaps it defines less
than i assume - i've not studied
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, roger peppe wrote:
> the time problem i was having before (fast clock) had seemed to be
> irreproducible. however just now, i noticed the following
> odd behaviour:
>
> fiddle% date -u
> Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT 1970
> fiddle% cat /dev/time
> 0
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Bakul Shah
> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach
> wrote:
> > Wow Where's parallels 4. I doubt I qualify for a free one. And
> VMWare
> > Fusion really sucks with Plan 9 at the moment :-(
>
> qemu works well enough for me on FreeBSD &
> fiddle% date -u
> Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT 1970
> fiddle% cat /dev/time
> 0 0 0
> 1 fiddle%
> fiddle% # wait a few seconds
> fiddle% cat /dev/time
> 0 0 0
> 1 fiddle%
what's especially wr
2009/8/4 erik quanstrom :
>> fiddle% cat /dev/time
>> 0 0 0
>> 1 fiddle%
> what's especially wrong about this is that /bin/time is supposed
> to have 4 fields:
it does - it just that the line wrapped.
the value of the last field is 1.
2009/8/4 erik quanstrom :
> do you have something funny bound on /dev?
having said what i said - yes, i realise that a mistaken
bind -b means that i was using drawterm's /dev/time,
not the host system's.
and, oddly, drawterm implements the time
file, but doesn't bother to actually get the correct
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:55 AM, C H Forsyth wrote:
>>they emphatically don't go for posix semantics...
>
> what are "posix semantics"?
whatever today's customer happens to think they are.
ron
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:47:25 PDT David Leimbach wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Bakul Shah
>
> > wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach
> > wrote:
> > > Wow Where's parallels 4. I doubt I qualify for a free one. And
> > VMWare
> > > Fusion really suck
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> It problem
probably
sorry
ron
This is the same kind of problem I had under Xen in the beginning. The
fix is to figure out what vmware gives you in the way of time info and
use that exclusively.
It problem seems odd but you can have cases where, e.g., 'sleep 10'
works and date is not right. I had this under both lguest and xen.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Bakul Shah
> wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:47:25 PDT David Leimbach
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Bakul Shah
> > <
> bakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach
> > > wrote:
> > > >
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
> I don't know how to obtain this information, but would be glad to supply it.
> Also, forgive my ignorance, but isn't there a chicken-and-egg problem, since
> if the MTRRs are set up in vgavesa.c, my display is unusable? Or is there a
> special
I have packaged up Forsyth's port of refer as a contrib package with
a kindly donated bin2ref program and a mkfile to pull down the plan9
bibliobraphy referenced on 9fans a while back.
Might be of use to those writing papers for iw9p.
-Steve
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:25:53 PDT David Leimbach wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Bakul Shah
>
> > wrote:
...
> > I think vbox devices and recompiler are based on qemu but I
> > don't really know. IIRC early qemu did seem to have similar
> > issues with plan9.
> >
> > Since ot
Hello,
I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
window in the acme to auto-complete a directory name---I am in /mnt, I
type 'a' and hit the 'insert' key or ctrl-f, or I am anywhere inside
the acme filesystem-
> Anyway, a couple of areas to look into, if you want plan9 on
> vbox: try changing the memory layout of plan9 or figure out
> what qemu did to make plan9 run well and apply that change to
> vbox.
what makes you think its a memory layout issue?
- erik
this has been driving me nuts for a long time. i've had
to have a mouse for each machine running rio because
mouse.c wasn't very amenable to either hot-plugged ps/2
or kvm-attached ps/2 mice. since steve mentioned the
led problem, i was motivated to finally rid my desk of
extra rodents:
/
I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine,
Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I
have a working machine.
The problems where:
realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat
An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier
SATA - Eriks new sd
Is a tarball of the 8th ed manual troff files available?
The Unix Historical Society (see www.tuhs.org) would like to have this
too, I don't doubt.
Thanks!
Arnold
In article <5d375e920908010430t7e5786d1te49f3da8b7a68...@mail.gmail.com> you
write:
>Thanks to Fish's contribution I have made the
This came up on #plan9: There's a set of programs, sig and comp, for
detecting similarities between files, attributed to Rob Pike. I've
found some "updated" versions, but I don't really like the updates as
described and the are no notes of what the code changes were. I'd love
to see the originals (
> Is a tarball of the 8th ed manual troff files available?
>
> The Unix Historical Society (see www.tuhs.org) would like to have this
> too, I don't doubt.
I temporary put it online [1]. Feel free to mirror it.
I obtained this stuff from an generous anonymous
donor few years ago.
I thought it wo
Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard
model etc? This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home.
I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of
free time to do anything with it. (I already downloaded it)
Dave
On Tue
oddly, neither file(1) nor the linux file can identify the awk
that is included in this tarball.
- erik
> oddly, neither file(1) nor the linux file can identify the awk
> that is included in this tarball.
It is a Eight Edition Unix VAX binary.
--
David du Colombier
> Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard
> model etc? This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home.
> I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of
> free time to do anything with it. (I already downloaded it)
http
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
> I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
> directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
> window in the acme to auto-complete a directory name---I am in /mnt, I
> type 'a' and hit the 'insert' key o
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 19:56 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
> > 2. do we have anybody successfully managing that much storage that is
> > also spread across the nodes? And if so, what's the best practices
> > out there to make the client not worry about where does the storage
> > actually co
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 10:55 +0100, C H Forsyth wrote:
> >they emphatically don't go for posix semantics...
>
> what are "posix semantics"?
I'll bite:
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/
[ anything else that would take an FD as an argument ]
http://www.opengroup.org/online
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 09:43 +0100, Steve Simon wrote:
> > Well, with Linux, at least you have a benefit of a gazillions of FS
> > clients being available either natively or via FUSE.
>
> Do you have a link to a site which lists interesting FUSE filesystems,
> I am definitely not trying to troll, I
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 21:23 -1000, Tim Newsham wrote:
> > 2. do we have anybody successfully managing that much storage that is
> > also spread across the nodes? And if so, what's the best practices
> > out there to make the client not worry about where does the storage
> > actually co
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 19:33 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard
> > model etc? This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home.
> > I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of
> > f
> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
> there?
unless you think via is fast enough, you'll have to wait for
pine trail. ich7r just requires too much power to go fanless.
it's quieter than the buttons on my mouse, though. and
absolutely silent in comparison to my
I've just realized that in 9P the wstat would refuse
to rename an entry if a target name already exists.
So how can I atomically replace one file with another
one, so that during the operation clients opening
it would not fail?
In POSIX rename gives you such an atomicity:
---
> How can I achieve the same result with 9P?
You can't. (Redefine 9P.)
Russ
Hadoop and GFS are good examples and they work great for the
single distributed application that is *written* with them
in mind.
Unfortunately, I can not stretch my imagination hard enough
to see them as general purpose filesystems backing up data
for gazillions of non-cooperative applications. T
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 09:04 +, Aaron W. Hsu arcfide-at-sacrideo.us |
9fans| wrote:
> Just a note on using E with p9p. I forgot to start the plumber. That's
> kind of important if you want to use E. :-)
>
> Aaron W. Hsu
>
Yup. The script I use to start acme (in p9p) in my preferred
c
> #!/bin/sh
> if 9p stat plumb > /dev/null 2>&1
> then
> exit
> else
> plumber
> fi
>
> to ensure that the plumber is running. This works nicely for me, as I
> can exit and restart acme, and the plumber continues running. When I
> log out of this linux system, however, it appears th
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