Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

2010-02-23 Thread Artem Pylypchuk
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:13:59 -0800 From: Russ Cox r...@swtch.com Subject: Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: dd6fe68a1002221613h4c6597abkfb3cdd8a79f7a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

[9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Purple_Q
Greets all. I'll cut straight to the chase for those who don't like reading long posts, else please bare with me and read this entire post so you can offer an opinion. I would like to erect a site that aims to show Plan9 in a more user/ desktop direction for those who share the enthusiast/niche

Re: [9fans] Netbook Install Help

2010-02-23 Thread Purple_Q
How do you mean? Should I boot from Lucho's thumb image or via usb cdrom? Since you quoted my first paragraph regarding Lucho's image, I booted from it. I don't have an lscpi, so I ran pciconf (FreeBSD) and I ran pci from the plan 9 bootup. pciconf output here: www.queuevonqu.com/pciconf.html

Re: [9fans] Netbook Install Help

2010-02-23 Thread erik quanstrom
the attensec l1c is not supported. very sorry about that. i don't have any attensec/atheros hardware. - erik

Re: [9fans] Netbook Install Help

2010-02-23 Thread erik quanstrom
i converted your bsd pci output to something i could get a handle on: ; pci `{hget http://www.queuevonqu.com/pciconf.html | htmlfmt | awk '{print $4}' | sed 's;chip=0x()();\2/\1;g' } 8086/27ac Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub 8086/27ae Intel

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread John Floren
I think a lot of this info is on the Wiki already--USB disks, faces, adding users, changing the background (come on, read the man page). We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking more closely at the

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 23 11:38:44 EST 2010, slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking more closely at the Wiki, maybe creating some pages there and linking them all from a For

Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

2010-02-23 Thread Bela Valek
Thanks, after I provided the service name, ip/pppoe asked for username and password. However I still didnt have Internet access. I tried ipconf/outside but it times out. Here is the complete output of ip/pppoe: http://pastebin.com/V7ACsh6g Did I forgot something? Thanks: Bela 2010/2/23 Russ

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue Feb 23 11:38:44 EST 2010, slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking more closely

Re: [9fans] Netbook Install Help

2010-02-23 Thread Purple_Q
I'm not overly concerned about the network card, so no worries. As far as the bootup, which do you want to see, from Lucho's image or from usb-cdrom? Also, the usb stick is big enough to put the actual cd .iso file onto if that will allow me to install the distribution itself that way.

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Purple_Q
Well, i'll look more closely at the wiki, but I'm dead serious about putting up a site. You forget; I already own a domain and server space. $10 and about a half an hour in my WYSIWYG editor and i've got a site up. Yes and I am a newbie, and no, i've read alot of over my head stuff but nothing

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread erik quanstrom
Well, the problem is that by putting everything out on your own website, it's more of a trek to get there from the Wiki, which should basically be the first point for any Plan 9 questions. When one person controls the site, there's a bottleneck making it more difficult for other people to

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread K T Kutani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think a good idea, especially early on, for any such newbie site would be a method to submit questions. Not quite a FAQ, I mean, but a list of things to cover, and anyone can answer as desires, or they can be posited to this list directly for

Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

2010-02-23 Thread Russ Cox
it looks like in pppoe.c the block       if((s = findtag(pkt, TagSrvName, len, 0)) == nil)               return bad(no matching service name);       if(len != strlen(srvname) || memcmp(s, srvname, len) != 0)               return bad(no matching service name); should be inside a

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Tim Newsham
$10 and about a half an hour in my WYSIWYG editor and i've got a site up. If you believe in Plan9, why not make the site using plan9? If you can't eat the dogfood, why try to sell it to others? Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com

[9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Dave Eckhardt
This is pretty darn useful: http://www.quanstro.net/newbie-guide.pdf and could be extended in some of the ways you mentioned (faces, how to find useful images such as bootable-USB, VMware, etc.). Also, for a while the Tokyo Inferno/Plan 9 User Group (tip9ug.jp) ran a service where pretty much

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread ron minnich
I've just had someone here try to install reFit on her Mac. She got it done in spite of the wikis. There's so much wrong info out on the web now in the form of wikis that it was all virtually useless. I become more disappointed in wikis as the years go by. Even the Plan 9 wiki has instructions in

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
Also, for a while the Tokyo Inferno/Plan 9 User Group (tip9ug.jp) ran a service where pretty much anybody could get an account on a Plan 9 machine. They seem down now... if it's not temporary, something like that could be a real service. I still use it from time to time, and though I agree

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 23 14:47:01 EST 2010, davide...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: This is pretty darn useful: http://www.quanstro.net/newbie-guide.pdf and could be extended in some of the ways you mentioned (faces, how to find useful images such as bootable-USB, VMware, etc.). for the moment, the author

[9fans] What operating systems are the google guys using?

2010-02-23 Thread Brantley Coile
Given that Google has a critical mass of Plan 9 people working away, and doing great things in my humble opinion, one wonders, what kind of environment are you running? What does the people who created Plan 9 use day to day? Thanks Brantley

Re: [9fans] What operating systems are the google guys using?

2010-02-23 Thread Jacob Todd
I think mostly Macs with p9p. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpgsqscrtTIc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Also, for a while the Tokyo Inferno/Plan 9 User Group (tip9ug.jp) ran a service where pretty much anybody could get an account on a Plan 9 machine. They seem down now... if it's not temporary, something like that

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:20 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Also, for a while the Tokyo Inferno/Plan 9 User Group (tip9ug.jp) ran a service where pretty much anybody could get an account on a Plan 9

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
Is there an Amazon S3 based 9P server? Just thinking out loud... I thought brucee had one? -Steve

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Is there an Amazon S3 based 9P server? Just thinking out loud... I thought brucee had one? Look in contrib? This sounds familiar.

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 23 19:21:38 EST 2010, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Is there an Amazon S3 based 9P server? Just thinking out loud... I thought brucee had one? Look in contrib? This sounds familiar. /n/other/sources/contrib/rcbilson/s3venti - erik

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Federico G. Benavento
is this some sort of MVS type of spam? On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Purple_Q bitpusher2...@gmail.com wrote: Greets all. I'll cut straight to the chase for those who don't like reading long posts, else please bare with me and read this entire post so you can offer an opinion. I would like

Re: [9fans] What operating systems are the google guys using?

2010-02-23 Thread Russ Cox
The standard set up for a Plan 9 aficionado here seems to be a Mac or Linux machine running Plan 9 from User Space to get at sam, acme, and the other tools. Rob, Ken, Dave, and I use Macs as our desktop machines, but we're a bit of an exception. Most Google engineers use Linux machines, and I

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Tue Feb 23 19:21:38 EST 2010, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Is there an Amazon S3 based 9P server? Just thinking out loud... I thought brucee had one? Look in contrib? This sounds familiar.

Re: [9fans] What operating systems are the google guys using?

2010-02-23 Thread Philippe Anel
Thanks for this info Russ. Can you briefly tell us why you (Russ, Rob, Ken and Dave) no longer use Plan9 ? Because of missing apps or because of missing driver for your hardware ? And do you still use venti ? Phil; - Original Message - From: Russ Cox r...@swtch.com To: Fans of the