[9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-28 Thread Sergey Kornilovich
Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on Plan9 DNS,not found in the man ndb mention of records of type SRV. It is necessary to support Microsoft Active Directory. Maybe I missed something? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record

Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-28 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Hello ! As far as I know, ndb have support for SRV, PTR, TXT resords. There is no sample, of cause :) I think tha it may look like this: ip=10.0.0.1 sys=_service dom=_tcp.local srv= 2011/4/28 Sergey Kornilovich roo...@gmail.com: Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:58:01AM +0200, Peter A. Cejchan wrote: spaces in filenames.. does not it break the rules?? Who actually needs them?? ++pac Mostly people who have grown up with graphical user interfaces and have no appreciation of the command line parsing complexity it adds I

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...))

2011-04-28 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 28 of April 2011 14:11:27 Digby Tarvin wrote: On a slightly related topics, one of my constant headaches lately is the problem of deciding what filesystem to put on large capacity removeable storage to give me maximum interoperability... What I really want is somthing that I can

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and

2011-04-28 Thread Richard Miller
no idea about p9, sorry, but there used to be a r/o ext2 driver. not just r/o - ext2srv(4)

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...))

2011-04-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:35:56PM +0200, dexen deVries wrote: On Thursday 28 of April 2011 14:11:27 Digby Tarvin wrote: On a slightly related topics, one of my constant headaches lately is the problem of deciding what filesystem to put on large capacity removeable storage to give me

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...))

2011-04-28 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 28 of April 2011 16:00:53 Digby Tarvin wrote: at some point i had that crazy idea to have a pendrive formatted in ext3 or nilfs2, with small auxiliary partition with a virtual machine -- and use the virtual machine as a filesystem server when on hostile OS. Not a bad idea, but

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...))

2011-04-28 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 28 of April 2011 16:00:53 Digby Tarvin wrote: But What I think is really needed for this sort of application is a filesystem with: Minimal restrictions of file size (64 bit addresses) Maximum versatility in FS topology (hard link support etc) Minimal restriction

[9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread smiley
OK, So I'm trying to compile the pcf kernel from quanstro's 9atom.iso.bz2. There seems to be an undocumented dependency on the quanstro/fis contrib(1). (Without it, 8c complains that it can't find an include file named fis.h or some such.) I now have that. I've also added the two assembly

[9fans] how big?

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
so i was looking at what's going on with gs. it appears to be having ape issues. but along the way this cropped up: ; ps -a | grep gs quanstro 795900:04 0:03 4292893752K Broken gs -dNOPAUSE -dDELAYSAFER -sDEVICE=plan9 -sOutputFile=/fd/3 -dQUIET -r100 -dTextAlphaBits=4

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
So I'm trying to compile the pcf kernel from quanstro's 9atom.iso.bz2. There seems to be an undocumented dependency on the quanstro/fis contrib(1). (Without it, 8c complains that it can't find an include file named fis.h or some such.) I now have that. I've also added the two assembly

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem

2011-04-28 Thread smiley
dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com writes: tar? webdav? in a way, a reverse of typical p9 fileserver -- read files, serve filesystem image. I was thinking of that. An embedded Linux or Plan 9 device as USB client, presenting an MSD interface. It could present a number of partitions,

Re: [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...))

2011-04-28 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 04:13:17PM +0200, dexen deVries wrote: funny thing, my current pendrive (which really is nokia n900 phone) has abundance of powerful hardware -- cpu, ram and 32GB + microSD block storage. you got me fantasizing. 9p served over usb (either directly, as mentioned

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread smiley
erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com writes: size 9pcf _strayintrx: _tracein/_traceout not defined 5 5 _strayintrx: _tracein: not defined _strayintrx: _traceout: not defined mk: 8c -FTVw '-DKERNDATE='`{date ... : exit status=rc 5800: 8l 5804: error _straintrx is

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
Yes, I'm sure. :) In typical paranoid newbie fashion, I made sure to do an 'ls -l /386/lib' before trying to build the kernel... oh, wait. Let me try a 'mk clean' first... nope. Same error. how about cd /sys/src/libc; mk mk clean - erik

Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Simon
There is a package called zonefresh in my contrib, this doea and axfr transfer from the given host/domain and writes an ndb file with the results. This understands srv records though I have never tried re-exporting the info from ndb and checking the results agains msdns. you should be able to do

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread smiley
erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com writes: Wow, you know, as a Gentoo user, I'm amazed AMAZED amazed amazed AMAZED amazed how fast Plan 9 can compile a kernel or libc. Compiling glibc (on Linux) usually takes over half a day. Compiling a kernel generally takes a couple of hours. This is

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread andrey mirtchovski
This is great! it is, isn't it? 6 seconds kernel compile, 15 seconds turnaround time when developing anything in the kernel (with PXE boot). beat that, modern operating systems :)

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: This is great! it is, isn't it? 6 seconds kernel compile, 15 seconds turnaround time when developing anything in the kernel (with PXE boot). beat that, modern operating systems :) yes, I had to help config and

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 28 13:25:13 EDT 2011, smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com writes: Wow, you know, as a Gentoo user, I'm amazed AMAZED amazed amazed AMAZED amazed how fast Plan 9 can compile a kernel or libc. Compiling glibc (on Linux) usually takes over half a

Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-28 Thread geoff
See ndb(6).

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread Brian L. Stuart
Ron wrote: andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: This is great! it is, isn't it? 6 seconds kernel compile, 15 seconds turnaround time when developing anything in the kernel (with PXE boot). beat that, modern operating systems :) yes, I had to help config and build a

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
Compiling glibc (on Linux) usually takes over half a day. you're not counting iterations where something goes wrong, as it always does for me.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Apr 28, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote: Life is too short to configure and compile Linux and GNU software. BLS another nomination for the fortunes file

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 28 of April 2011 20:50:14 Brian L. Stuart wrote: Life is too short to configure and compile Linux and GNU software. or spending days on choosing a computer with all the hardware supported. oh wait. to the wit: the current hacker-unfriendlines of linux (a.k.a. `user friendlines')

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 28 15:30:38 EDT 2011, dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 of April 2011 20:50:14 Brian L. Stuart wrote: Life is too short to configure and compile Linux and GNU software. or spending days on choosing a computer with all the hardware supported. oh wait. that's not how

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Apr 28, 2011, at 3:29 PM, dexen deVries wrote: the current hacker-unfriendlines of linux (a.k.a. `user friendlines') is the price paid for vide driver support. perhaps in some vague philosophical terms, but certainly that isn't any sort of actual engineering trade-off. you also seem to be

Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-28 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on Plan9 DNS,not found in the man ndb mention of records of type SRV. It is necessary to support Microsoft Active Directory. Maybe I missed something? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record I got AD to work with Plan 9 DNS just last year.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread errno
On Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:39:07 PM erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Apr 28 15:30:38 EDT 2011, dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 of April 2011 20:50:14 Brian L. Stuart wrote: Life is too short to configure and compile Linux and GNU software. or spending days on choosing a

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread andrey mirtchovski
errno, you sound like you may be trespassing on our collective 9fans lawn. i wave a cane in your general direction.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
Though I don't understand why folks around here complain about linux so often and so vehemently, when the only reason why you're complaining is because you _need_ linux... to furnish all the things you can't do with plan 9 - either personally, or within your organization. people who care

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread smiley
erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com writes: ; 9diff mkfile /n/sources/plan9//sys/src/libc/386/mkfile:23,28 - mkfile:23,29 strcpy.s\ strlen.s\ tas.s\ + trace.s\ vlop.s\ Oh, of course! If it isn't assembled, the loader will never find the symbols. :) That

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread erik quanstrom
(Interestingly, the 9pcf.gz produced was about 7KB smaller than the one you gave me. I'm guessing that there's some additional stuff in your 9pcf that's not in mine, but it seems to be working fine.) you're using 16-bit runes, and the standard pre-unicode 3.0 tables, which are smaller. -

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-28 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:00 PM, errno er...@cox.net wrote: [1] For those gnashing teeth over glibc - might want to check out musl libc.  It's no plan 9 libc, but it's definitely less worse than glibc. Once I get my teeth back in I will gnash them even more. ron