Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
i was overly emotional, sorry. i also overlooked that the debate is about drawterm, a non-plan9 program. doubly sorry. still, to my taste, to much effort is devoted to things outside the system... however, i am not an MBA, maybe, it is all right. wishing a fantastic day, ++pac

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Charles Forsyth
i am not an MBA, maybe, it is all right it's always all right not to be an MBA

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
it's always all right not to be an MBA not here ;-)

[9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread Pär Moberg
Hello, I have a problem with the plan9 installation. I think that I don't get a network connection because it says ns83815: auto neg timed out, the floppy I use is from May 17 2011 but I have made my own PLAN9.INI: # config for initial floppy booting [menu] menuitem=boot, Boot Plan 9 #

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for decades, but its message has never been more important

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread a z
So any more thoughts on whether or not this would be useful? I have to revise: that I did point to a java sdk and really should have constrained my contents to something like jquery api instead. So- why? (why build a website of drawterm) (I think) I like plan9 as a potential network controller.

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for decades, but its message has never been more important and, or useful for many. -- Rob Tannen yes!! BTW, I hate porting bloatware to clean, compact and efficient Plan 9. so do i, however, sometimes time (and,

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread blstuart
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for decades, but its message has never been more

[9fans] Oh shell

2011-05-18 Thread Rodrigo Miranda
I saw this at hacker news. It's a shell written in go. Seems nice. https://github.com/michaelmacinnis/oh https://github.com/michaelmacinnis/ohCheers! Rodrigo Miranda ``The zen master hit me in the head. I told him: If you keep hitting me in the head, I won't be able to learn a thing!

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed May 18 04:06:40 EDT 2011, g...@ghstwlf.com wrote: Hello, I have a problem with the plan9 installation. I think that I don't get a network connection because it says ns83815: auto neg timed out, the floppy I use is from May 17 2011 but I have made my own PLAN9.INI: i don't have the

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread David Leimbach
Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2011, at 5:24 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 05/18/2011 05:56 PM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread erik quanstrom
How useful a research could be which is not backed by a business idea? Who will fund such projects, why and for how long? you mean a research project like unix or plan 9? - erik

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread comeauat9f...@gmail.com
On May 18, 2011, at 8:24 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: ...I'm confused. Why are we using business ideas to constrain what we are doing with a research system? Probably good point. But that said did not Lucent try to market Plan 9 beyond that at some point, or do I have that wrong?

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread Pär Moberg
2011-05-18 14:51, erik quanstrom skrev: On Wed May 18 04:06:40 EDT 2011, g...@ghstwlf.com wrote: Hello, I have a problem with the plan9 installation. I think that I don't get a network connection because it says ns83815: auto neg timed out, the floppy I use is from May 17 2011 but I have made

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread erik quanstrom
i don't have the datasheet in front of me, but the two most obvious causes are a difficult link partner or perhaps your chip doesn't like being poked immediately after starting an sequence. you might try moving the delay(1) before the register probe. - erik Okej, does that mean that

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread Pär Moberg
2011-05-18 18:55, erik quanstrom skrev: i don't have the datasheet in front of me, but the two most obvious causes are a difficult link partner or perhaps your chip doesn't like being poked immediately after starting an sequence. you might try moving the delay(1) before the register probe. -

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread jake
g...@ghstwlf.com wrote: *profanity* What documentation do I need to read to learn how to do that? /Pär The wiki will suffice.

[9fans] 9vx w/ tun/tap on OS X?

2011-05-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
has anyone gotten this working? i've got the 3rd-party tun/tap kexts installed (i believe; the devices show up in /dev), but 9vx is unhappy. my config file contains: ether0=type=tap dev=/dev/tap0 9vx complains with: 9vx panic: fd 5 read -1 (when running as superuser, which i

Re: [9fans] 9vx w/ tun/tap on OS X?

2011-05-18 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 18 May 2011 17:49:56 EDT Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-4-1030682487 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii has anyone gotten this working? i've got the 3rd-party

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread blstuart
How useful a research could be which is not backed by a business idea? That's kind of the point I was getting at. Asking how research is useful isn't asking the most telling question. Research isn't always about utility; it's about intellectual contribution. Of course, it's great when