Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread blstuart
> How useful a research could be which is not backed by a business idea? That's kind of the point I was getting at. Asking how research is useful isn't asking the most telling question. Research isn't always about utility; it's about intellectual contribution. Of course, it's great when resear

Re: [9fans] 9vx w/ tun/tap on OS X?

2011-05-18 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 18 May 2011 17:49:56 EDT Anthony Sorace wrote: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) > --Apple-Mail-4-1030682487 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > has anyone gotten this working? i've got the > 3rd-party tun/tap kext

[9fans] 9vx w/ tun/tap on OS X?

2011-05-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
has anyone gotten this working? i've got the 3rd-party tun/tap kexts installed (i believe; the devices show up in /dev), but 9vx is unhappy. my config file contains: ether0=type=tap dev=/dev/tap0 9vx complains with: 9vx panic: fd 5 read -1 (when running as superuser, which i be

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread jake
g...@ghstwlf.com wrote: >*profanity* >What documentation do I need to read to learn how to do that? >/Pär The wiki will suffice.

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread Pär Moberg
2011-05-18 18:55, erik quanstrom skrev: i don't have the datasheet in front of me, but the two most obvious causes are a difficult link partner or perhaps your chip doesn't like being poked immediately after starting an sequence. you might try moving the delay(1) before the register probe. - eri

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread erik quanstrom
> > i don't have the datasheet in front of me, but the two most obvious > > causes are a difficult link partner or perhaps your chip > > doesn't like being poked immediately after starting an sequence. > > you might try moving the delay(1) before the register probe. > > > > - erik > > Okej, does t

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread Pär Moberg
2011-05-18 14:51, erik quanstrom skrev: On Wed May 18 04:06:40 EDT 2011, g...@ghstwlf.com wrote: Hello, I have a problem with the plan9 installation. I think that I don't get a network connection because it says "ns83815: auto neg timed out", the floppy I use is from May 17 2011 but I have mad

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread comeauat9f...@gmail.com
On May 18, 2011, at 8:24 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: > ...I'm confused. Why are we using business ideas to constrain what > we are doing with a research system? Probably good point. But that said did not Lucent try to market Plan 9 beyond that at some point, or do I have that wrong?

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread erik quanstrom
> > How useful a research could be which is not backed by a business idea? > Who will fund such projects, why and for how long? > you mean a research project like unix or plan 9? - erik

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 05/18/2011 05:56 PM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. "The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for d

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread David Leimbach
Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2011, at 5:24 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: >> On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: >>> Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that >>> accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. >> >> "The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid)

Re: [9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed May 18 04:06:40 EDT 2011, g...@ghstwlf.com wrote: > Hello, > I have a problem with the plan9 installation. I think that I don't get a > network connection because it says "ns83815: auto neg timed out", the > floppy I use is from May 17 2011 but I have made my own PLAN9.INI: i don't have t

[9fans] Oh shell

2011-05-18 Thread Rodrigo Miranda
I saw this at hacker news. It's a shell written in go. Seems nice. https://github.com/michaelmacinnis/oh Cheers! Rodrigo Miranda ``The zen master hit me in the head. I told him: "If you keep hitting me in the head, I won't be able to learn a thin

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread blstuart
> On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: >> Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that >> accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. > > "The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business > for decades, but its message has never been more

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
> "The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for decades, but its message has never been more important and, or useful for many." -- Rob Tannen yes!! > > > BTW, I hate porting bloatware to clean, compact and efficient Plan 9. > so do i, however, sometimes time (

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread a z
So any more thoughts on whether or not this would be useful? I have to revise: that I did point to a java sdk and really should have constrained my contents to something like jquery api instead. So- why? (why build a website of drawterm) (I think) I like plan9 as a potential network controller. N

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread dorin bumbu
it seems somebody already done a js virtual machine :) http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/17/0242244/Boot-Linux-In-Your-Browser Dorin > on the other hand, i think a js virtual machine (mips would be nicer > than x86) might be interesting.  drawterm has always been a clever > hack.  it would

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. "The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business for decades, but its message has never been more important

[9fans] ns83815: auto neg timed out?

2011-05-18 Thread Pär Moberg
Hello, I have a problem with the plan9 installation. I think that I don't get a network connection because it says "ns83815: auto neg timed out", the floppy I use is from May 17 2011 but I have made my own PLAN9.INI: # config for initial floppy booting [menu] menuitem=boot, Boot Plan 9 # menui

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
> >>it's always all right not to be an MBA > not here ;-) >

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-18 Thread Charles Forsyth
>i am not an MBA, maybe, it is all right it's always all right not to be an MBA