Re: [9fans] wifi interface

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> i'm inclined to extend the ethernet interface an etherx/ctl file that > accepted commands along the lines of ssid, bssid, and channel to > configure the connection. did the wavelan driver not do this for a reason > beyond changing devether? any better ideas? there's already a ctl file. it's in

[9fans] wifi interface

2012-03-20 Thread Tristan
> USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for) oh, and on that note: said wireless driver is much nicer now (though far from perfect or complete) and still in contrib/tristan/libertas.tgz. the wavelan driver uses the ctl file in the connection (`{cat clone}/ctl) to manage

Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-20 Thread Tristan
> Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if > you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand > experience only. USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for) enjoy, tristan -- All original matter is hereby placed immediately under t

[9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand experience only. -sl PCI: none known PCI Express: none known MiniPCI: Actiontec 800MIP (branded Lucent WaveLAN) MiniPCI Express: none known PCMCIA: Wavelan PC

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based "protocols" message framing

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> >    I would beg to differ on this subject... Because a lot of tools in > > the Plan9 environment expose their facilities as 9p file systems, but > > expose other semantics than that of "generic" files -- i.e. a > > contiguous stream of bytes from start to EOF -- like for example RPC > > semantic

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based "protocols" message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Dan Cross
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:32, Dan Cross wrote: >> 9P itself is not a stream-oriented >> protocol, nor is it what one would generally call, 'transport >> technology.' > >    I would beg to differ on this subject... Because a lot of t

Re: [9fans] Mercurial and Plan 9

2012-03-20 Thread Federico Benavento
check, /sys/src/ape/lib/draw/ for some insight On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Yaroslav wrote: > Speaking of which... what would be the trick to make libsec visible > for an APE source? > -- > - Yaroslav >

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Stephen Wiley
I've been thinking about this for a while as well (I don't have one yet though... so I haven't gone far beyond thinking) On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. > There is a RiscOS port, perhaps that has something...

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based "protocols" message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:32, Dan Cross wrote: > 9P itself is not a stream-oriented > protocol, nor is it what one would generally call, 'transport > technology.' I would beg to differ on this subject... Because a lot of tools in the Plan9 environment expose their facilities as 9p file syst

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > My delivery note says "May" > > You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto > the pre-order queue. > > > Luxury! There were four of us living in a brown paper bag in a septic tank... (sorry couldn't res

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based "protocols" message framing

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> Perhaps initially: over an IP network, 9P used to run over IL. still does, including on the system i'm sending this from. - erik

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Mar 20 10:20:16 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: > > My delivery note says "May" > > You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto > the pre-order queue. h you're lucky. ... probablly the little jailies' pet, aren't we? what i wouldn't give to be on the waiting list to b

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Nicolas Bercher
Le 20/03/2012 15:10, Charles Forsyth a écrit : You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). OK, I'll wait. For sure this device will stimulate some Plan 9 users! Nicolas

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Richard Miller
> My delivery note says "May" You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue.

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Charles Forsyth
You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Bercher wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ?

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Calvin Morrison
I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee. A few perspective problems : 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU or something crazy. 3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably eas

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Nicolas Bercher
Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? Nicolas

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based "protocols" message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Dan Cross
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Yaroslav wrote: >>  Why was I puzzled: because as a non Plan9 user / developer, I >> usually think of the underlaying transport technology (be it sockets >> or 9p) as a stream of bytes without explicit framing. > > As I understand, 9P itself is designed to operate

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based "protocols" message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Yaroslav
> Why was I puzzled: because as a non Plan9 user / developer, I > usually think of the underlaying transport technology (be it sockets > or 9p) as a stream of bytes without explicit framing. As I understand, 9P itself is designed to operate on top of a message-oriented transport; however, it has

Re: [9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread cinap_lenrek
9load doesnt detect your storage devices. you could try plan9front cd (http://r-36.net/9front/) wich uses a different bootloader wich uses bios to access storage devices (so it doesnt need a custom driver) wich will probably gets a kernel loaded. if the kernel also doesnt detect the ide/sata contr

Re: [9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> From the above, the problem is not an installation that worked before, > and does not anymore, since this is not a Pentium IV anymore but a > Core 2/Xeon. > > Since it loads the floppy image, El Torito is supported. Now, this is > the exploration of the mass storage that seems to pose problems.

Re: [9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:54:49AM +, Sauparna wrote: > Previously I had a working Plan9 (3rd. Ed.) installation on my desktop, which > had Pentium 4 processor. I am unable to boot from the same Plan9 CD, and even > the 4th. Ed. CD, on my laptop. I get this error message: >[...] > cpu0: 2189

[9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread Sauparna
Previously I had a working Plan9 (3rd. Ed.) installation on my desktop, which had Pentium 4 processor. I am unable to boot from the same Plan9 CD, and even the 4th. Ed. CD, on my laptop. I get this error message: PBS1... Plan9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0C98 pcirouting: South bridge 8086, 2919 not fou

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

2012-03-20 Thread faif
Τη Δευτέρα, 19 Μαρτίου 2012 3:50:35 μ.μ. UTC+1, ο χρήστης erik quanstrom έγραψε: > > i'm not sure i understand the concept of reincarnation. on the one > hand, hardware by its nature can lock your machine up solid and > there's nothing the os can do about it. so how do you test driver > reincar

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Ellis
http://www.chunder.com/text/dead.html On 20 March 2012 19:25, Paschke Christoph wrote: > In 3 weeks I need work together with Italians because of a machine control > and the optimization system behind. > It's already difficult to work together and you can imagine English is > already a good way

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

2012-03-20 Thread Paschke Christoph
In 3 weeks I need work together with Italians because of a machine control and the optimization system behind. It's already difficult to work together and you can imagine English is already a good way communication works. Although, in real, it is still difficult to understand the italian english