Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Tristan
> I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? I'm trying to make it. Though more a programmer's tablet than a laptop. Take care, Tristan

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? > Thanks. > It works in RubeGoldberg 2.2 but will not autocompile freeway scuzzmonkey merge svn commitshare javahunk. // could not resist, apologies all round.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread yang.zhao
Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? Thanks. 2012/5/10 > > > ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. > > > > mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and > > it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
> > ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. > > mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and > it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_PCI#Mini_PCI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia -sl

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread hiro
> ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
> > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet > > I've got one of those with the 1400x1050 display, it runs Plan 9 well, > looks great, and has a fantastic screen. Nice! -sl

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread John Floren
I've got one of those with the 1400x1050 display, it runs Plan 9 well, looks great, and has a fantastic screen. john On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, wrote: > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet > > -sl >

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet -sl

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
> I have an X61T... Do you mean an X61s? I see no reference to the X61T on the ThinkWiki. -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject:

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread steve
in support of sam, i use it and always have, i never got to the point with acme that it felt worth the effort of changing. sam is not an an introductory editor, its an alternative. the one place where i do use acme is the wiki, there is no sam wiki interface... unless you know different? On 9 Ma

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread erik quanstrom
plan 9 supports up to 4g of memory, depending on the size of pci space, and 3.75g per process. - erik

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
I remember reading a while back that plan9 didn't support more than 1.7G of memory. Is this still the case? -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: R

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread Comeau At9Fans
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>wrote: > > If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc > > > > it returns nothing. > > Your libc is obviously not up-do-date. > > term% nm /n/sources/plan9/386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc > atom.8: T ainc > > See /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/lib

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
the 7500's FPA. On 9 May 2012 17:36, erik quanstrom wrote: > also, *which* floating point does it emulate.

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
Another possibility for wifi would be something like the VAP11G wifi bridge dongle. These are small devices that bridge an Ethernet port to wifi. Note: I've never actually used one. -sl

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
> Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be > a wifi/modem combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the > 800MiP? No idea. -sl

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
> What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech > 800MiP card and using it in an X60? ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. Unfortunately, the cards are not compatible. You could try to acquire a WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC. -sl

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be a wifi/modem combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the 800MiP? -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Burton Samograd Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 20

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech 800MiP card and using it in an X60? I like the form factor of the X60 plus the better specs, I'm just not sure if it also uses the same Mini PCI slot of the T23. -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed May 9 10:38:21 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and > i remember he implemented floating point on it. > > might have a look there: > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e why was it done this way rathe

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread erik quanstrom
> Another option for wifi is PCMCIA, which has the benefit of being > available on almost all laptops. However, I've not had great luck. not so much anymore. - erik

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
Thinkpad T23 is the canonical Plan 9 laptop. Everything I've tried on it works: apm, sound, wifi. The Actiontec 800MIP (branded WaveLAN) wifi card it ships with actually works. Thinkpad T42 is likewise well supported. The wifi card(s) it shipped with did not work for me, but its Mini PCI slot is c

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 05/09/2012 05:44 PM, Vincent Zhao wrote: I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? Toshiba Portege M300. Everything but wifi works as expected.

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread David du Colombier
> If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc > > it returns nothing. Your libc is obviously not up-do-date. term% nm /n/sources/plan9/386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc atom.8: T ainc See /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/libc/386/atom.s -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread sl
> A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too. I have an X61T that works great with 9front. The T61 is also a good choice (almost identical hardware to the X61T, but with no tablet and a 14" 1280x800 screen). Some caveats: - There are no known working Mini PCI Express wifi cards - ap

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread Comeau At9Fans
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>wrote: > > Ok, linking gives: > > > > main: undefined: ainc in main > > > > Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c), > > anybody know where it is located? > > It's defined in the libc. You can add it

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread David du Colombier
> Ok, linking gives: > > main: undefined: ainc in main > > Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c), > anybody know where it is located? It's defined in the libc. You can add it to /sys/include/libc.h if you wish. -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread John Floren
A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too. john On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Burton Samograd wrote: > Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running > plan9?  Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW > compatibility, etc.  One

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread Comeau At9Fans
Ok, linking gives: main: undefined: ainc in main Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c), anybody know where it is located? -- Greg Comeau / 4.3.10.1 with C++0xisms now in beta! Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout World Class Compiler

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread David du Colombier
> > might have a look there: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e > > Thanks. What's the most sane way of downloading it to 9vx.OSX? mkdir /sys/src/cmd/5e cd /sys/src/cmd/5e for(i in 5e.c arm.c dat.h fns.h fpa.c fs.c mkfile proc.c seg.c sys.c util.c) h

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW compatibility, etc. One every system I've tried there's always been something that has gone wrong, so I'm hoping that the wisdom of this list will dir

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread Comeau At9Fans
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, wrote: > aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and > i remember he implemented floating point on it. > > might have a look there: > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e Thanks. What's the most sane way of downloading

[9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Vincent Zhao
I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true?

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread cinap_lenrek
aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and i remember he implemented floating point on it. might have a look there: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread erik quanstrom
yes. the instructions are not implemented. unfortunately abort() was called without flushing the output, so the error message wasn't printed. ; diffy -c /sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c /n/dump/2012/0509/sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c:260,265 - /sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c:260,266 { Bprint(bioout, "undefined inst

[9fans] 5i floating point?

2012-05-09 Thread Comeau At9Fans
>From 9vx.OSX if I compile this #include #include void main(void) { float f = 99.99; exits(0); } with 5c/5l and then 5i it, it gives: undefined instruction trap pc #102c inst ed9b0100 class 92 Is floating point supported with 5i? -- Greg Comeau / 4.3.10.1 with C++0xisms now in beta!

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
How do you get it to start so quickly? On 9 May 2012 13:16, Russ Cox wrote: > It's not like Eclipse where you have to wait minutes for > the thing to start. >

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread Russ Cox
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:09 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Sam is enough for the new user, and learning it without the mouse >> seems like a really good idea. I agree with you sam -d is not an entry I think it's much easier to learn sam _with_ the mouse, and only then move on to sam -d for times wh

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread erik quanstrom
> Out of the two editors available I would really opt for using Acme there are three (ed). > instead. If you happen to find yourself newly installing plan 9 then > someone might suggest Sam to use and you will be stuck trying to learn > everything about Sam before you can start. Learning only the

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread IainWS
On May 9, 6:23 am, yari...@gmail.com (Yaroslav) wrote: > > Could you elaborate on your choice of using "sam -d"? > > Agree, 'sam -d' is not an entry-level choice. Out of the two editors available I would really opt for using Acme instead. If you happen to find yourself newly installing plan 9 then

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread IainWS
On May 9, 2:15 am, j...@jfloren.net (John Floren) wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:34 AM, IainWS wrote: > > Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some > > trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have > > started a blog so that I can add resources t