Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Andrew Back
On 17/01/2022 23:36, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 AM Matt wrote: But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even though Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry that one day they become too different,

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:36:19AM +0100, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote: > > I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around > 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still > being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on. > There is

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread hiro
if there's any branch of plan9 missing in 9front please just send the patch or a reminder. On 1/18/22, Matt wrote: > > On Monday, January 17, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir > wrote: >> I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around > 9front. One of the reasons

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Matt
On Monday, January 17, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote: > I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on. There is also

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:32 PM Matt wrote: > > But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even > though Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry > that one day they become too different, especially since the community is > rather centered

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 AM Matt wrote: > > But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even > though Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry > that one day they become too different, especially since the community is > rather centered

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Matt
But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even though Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry that one day they become too different, especially since the community is rather centered around Plan 9 rather than 9front? Or is the community

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread ori
Quoth Matt : > @ori: Those are examples of forked software that happened because of the > discontinuation of the original software, right? No. Most of the originals were around after the fork, at least for a while. Many of them are still around. In some cases, it's the fork that didn't make it.

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Matt
@Humm: I understand that Android isn't a fork of Linux, I meant to imply that although Android is argued to be a Linux distro, they have very different environments that can't easily interact with each other. I also know that the meaning of forking is objective, I meant that forking invokes the

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread ori
Quoth matthpmore...@gmail.com: > I know it's subjective, but a fork implies to me that the goals and > methods of the forking developers are different from the original > software, maybe eventually leading to a completely contrasted > software, with different environment, tools and inner workings,

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Humm
Quoth matthpmore...@gmail.com: Hello. I just found out about Plan 9 and I'm trying to understand more. I see that 9front is often called a fork of Plan 9. However, reading the FAQ and the 9front wiki, the authors seem to often "conflate" both. I mean, I don't really understand what's written,

[9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread matthpmoreira
Hello. I just found out about Plan 9 and I'm trying to understand more. I see that 9front is often called a fork of Plan 9. However, reading the FAQ and the 9front wiki, the authors seem to often "conflate" both. I mean, I don't really understand what's written, but it's like the instructions

Re: [9fans] Unable to load page in Abaco

2022-01-17 Thread Steve Simon
li looks like you are not running ndb/dns. you need to start this before webfs, and then start abaco after that. sadly the web has moved on a but since abaco was written - it used to render most pages quite well. These days its lack of javascript is more and more of a problem. -Steve On 17

[9fans] Unable to load page in Abaco

2022-01-17 Thread Saif Resun
Hello there! I am Resun. I was trying to use internet in Plan9 but I am always unable to load a page in abaco. After a lots of trying I managed to get connected to the internet but in abaco I am getting this error: [cid:image002.png@01D80B9C.CA07EB70] Can someone please help get rid of this?

Re: [9fans] 9legacy under OpenBSD's vmm

2022-01-17 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
David du Colombier writes: > If it works with 9front, the issue is definitely on our side. > Our Virtio drivers are very close to 9front's, so I suspect > the issue may be somewhere else. If you think that's the case then I need to build out enough local infrastructure to be able to build

Re: [9fans] 9legacy under OpenBSD's vmm

2022-01-17 Thread David du Colombier
>> I think the issue is elsewhere, since I've tried on QEMU with >> both Virtio 1.0 and Virtio legacy and it worked as expected >> (386 and amd64 kernels). > > That could very well be. vmm(4) is still relatively young, so the > bug could very well be there. I think at this point we've ruled > out

Re: [9fans] 9legacy under OpenBSD's vmm

2022-01-17 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
David du Colombier writes: > I think the issue is elsewhere, since I've tried on QEMU with > both Virtio 1.0 and Virtio legacy and it worked as expected > (386 and amd64 kernels). That could very well be. vmm(4) is still relatively young, so the bug could very well be there. I think at this