Re: [9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-13 Thread Daniel Lyons
can access sources without any trouble. Anybody know what I'm missing, or have a good idea how to debug it? Thanks, — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-13 Thread Daniel Lyons
vx? It seems to work from p9p, but not from 9vx. Every connection to my machine times out, but sources works. -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 01:30:00PM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:03:13 CDT Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:52:30AM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 May 2011 13:14:55 CDT Stanley Lieber > > > > > wrote: > >

Re: [9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
ck with that either. How are you guys using these tools? -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
On May 10, 2011, at 2:34 AM, hiro wrote: > 20$ for a juice? I thought the dollar was already pretty high these > days? Seldom do I say this phrase but what the fuck! He's talking about wine. — Daniel Lyons

[9fans] exportfs / u9fs / v9fs / npfs / spfs versus 9vx

2011-05-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
peration would be nice, but I don't consider it necessary. Thanks, -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] freedom (was Re: Compiling 9atom kernel)

2011-05-07 Thread Daniel Lyons
www.tuaw.com/files/stevesings.mp3 My pet theory is that it's the same reason people don't buy paper tablets that weigh 5+ lbs and have with built-in typewriters. Of course, you can't discount the possibility that there's a difference between a car and a horseless carriage. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels 6

2011-05-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
k...mount usbd...boot: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist time... fossil(#S/sdC0/fossil)...version...time... can't stat /srv/parts.sdXX: '/srv/partfs.sdXX' file does not exist init: starting /bin/rc And that's it, nothing particularly interesting. What else can I do to debug this? Thanks, — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] updating 9vx's Plan 9 install

2011-05-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
On May 6, 2011, at 10:05 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > i should have mentioned this change was made on 18 mar. Using the plan9.tar.bz2 proved more fruitful. Perhaps there's something unsavory about the way Finder mounts ISOs. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] updating 9vx's Plan 9 install

2011-05-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
io doesn't live long; you create a window and then get this: invalid opcode f0 0f b1 at eip 00013f3b invalid opcode f0 0f b1 at eip 00020dc2 And pretty much have to restart it. I'm going to try the other methods. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] updating 9vx's Plan 9 install

2011-05-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
Thanks, all! -- Daniel Lyons

[9fans] updating 9vx's Plan 9 install

2011-05-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
lient/plan9.db' does not exist replica/compactdb /n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db: compactdb 151: opendb /n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db: '/n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db' does not exist pull 123: test 153: false Advice? -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

2011-05-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
messages I may not have >> seen, or any other debugging information I can go looking for? > > /dev/kmesg will give you the console prints so far; /dev/kprint will wait for > new ones (and prevent them going to your actual console). I don't see anything interesting there, except that it couldn't initialize usbd. Does usbd work for you? — Daniel Lyons

[9fans] Parallels 5

2011-05-05 Thread Daniel Lyons
somewhere I can examine for messages I may not have seen, or any other debugging information I can go looking for? I'm downloading 9atom to compare tomorrow. Thanks, -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
e the list is called "9fans" not "plan9-dev." Not sure our community is large enough to survive being partitioned off into little tiny segments. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:19 AM, Andrew Simmons wrote: And no doubt we'd have been much better off if Apple had instead spent the time and effort making a decent iPod. Um... what is it you dislike about the iPod? — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Sep 17, 2009, at 2:43 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: opening their platform interfaces Any in particular? — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
7;t hardware or motivation, it's that by the time you teach someone to be explicit enough that a computer can derive what they're trying to do, you've made them a programmer already (see Prolog for example). Same with strong AI: nobody has a clue how to word the problem precisely enough to write a program to solve it. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-07 Thread Daniel Lyons
d Plan 9 are in the same situation for exactly the same reason: they're both conceptually rigorous and short on eye candy, and the market chose other alternatives long ago, and now those alternatives define the question in a way that precludes these answers. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-07 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:54 AM, Paul Donnelly wrote: or perhaps A-list games programming The Jak and Daxter series was written in Common Lisp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Daniel Lyons
Eris, Using your theories, please explain why Lisp and Plan 9 both hover around the same level of popularity (i.e., not very, but not dead either). — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-04 Thread Daniel Lyons
hines would have become more common and taken Lisp with them the way Unix brought C. There are simply too many variables to lay the blame at Lisp's alleged functional basis. Especially today when languages like Haskell exist that take functional so much further they make Lisp look like a procedural language by comparison. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-03 Thread Daniel Lyons
cute that block in another thread without having to do much thinking about it. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-03 Thread Daniel Lyons
pers, because they are the ones who make the platform seem large and inviting to the customers. The more fun they make programming, the more it helps their bottom line. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-03 Thread Daniel Lyons
w got to excellence by birth alone. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9

2009-09-03 Thread Daniel Lyons
views; otherwise you will need application code to have any abstractions at all. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
d to think HP was a great brand, but it really seems to have gone to hell in the last several years IMO. I don't trust multifunction devices anyway. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Fernan Bolando wrote: oops seeing that I posted this blindly anybody can now gain access to my files. Is this true? I would have thought access to your Venti would be a requisite too. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-16 Thread Daniel Lyons
about it to me. Another thing which would be cool would be something like scsh. -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons > wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. If that's something you're thinking a

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lyons
(another))) I bet you could set up Emacs to use a proportional font. It can do anything, right? :) I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lyons
has on connection setup, as well as silly optional features like connection sharing and whatnot. (I use that silly feature all the time but I don't think I would have offered to build it into the protocol.) — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
you do. I hope that in some time I will be doing as much for the good as you and others on this list that carry the Plan 9 torch and endure my stupid questions (and now my rants.) — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-08 Thread Daniel Lyons
it wholesale actually. I wouldn't be here if I weren't interested in different paradigms and evaluating them. -- Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:37 AM, ron minnich wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote: My beef is that they were hot-all-over CORBA not too long ago. I expect in another three years nobody will be using D-Bus, they'll be using some new layer that sits on top of it.

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel Lyons
useam. Outside Plan 9 I don't see anyone solving two problems with one technology; instead, they're just solving one problem and introducing a new one. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel Lyons
runs acme with -l lib/acme.dump, but you can certainly have as many of these around as you'd like. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
really taking a position here but your comments reminded me of the story. I guess there's always a bigger jerk out there and sometimes he runs your colo facility. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
ution. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Aug 6, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: It's easy for me to object to what they're coming up with but it would be hard for me to describe in detail how exactly factotum + all the other stuff encompass it, and I don&#x

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
ke myself who are recent adopters of Plan 9 and don't have a comprehensive understanding of the security architecture—perhaps because we've been poisoned by systems like Mac OS X Keychain and SSH. — Daniel Lyons

[9fans] searchfs

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel Lyons
ystem, nor does reading from it produce anything. Any pointers on how to use this? Or is it defunct or some kind of dead end? Thanks, — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Lyons
totype mismatch "IND ULONG" for "IND INT": cpuid devarch.c:869 function args not checked: mtrrprint devarch.c:951 function args not checked: mtrr mk: 8c -FTVw devarch.c : exit status=rc 1227: 8c 1229: error I copied /n/sources/patch/saved/pat/*.[ch] to /sys/src/9/pc ... Wha

Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Lyons
difference (sometimes bordering on hate) towards their customers but it does seem to be the fastest Mac Plan 9 emulator I've had success with so far. As I said before, Windows is about their only interest, if that's is something you need on your Mac. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Lyons
s are set up in vgavesa.c, my display is unusable? Or is there a special way to bail out to the text mode when the display is screwed up? Thanks again, — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-03 Thread Daniel Lyons
ve a reputation for building the VM to support Windows first. Again, thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to afford a copy of the new version of Parallels in a little while and perhaps that will help further isolate the problem. — Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-02 Thread Daniel Lyons
th) / BI2WD; - - hp += off; - sp += off; - esp = sp + Dy(r) * wid; - while(sp < esp){ - memmove(hp, sp, w); - hp += wid; - sp += wid; - } - } - VGAdev vgavesadev = { "vesa", 0, vgavesa.c:174,178 - /n/sourcesdump/2008/1101/plan9/sys/src/9/pc/ vgavesa.c:140,145 0, 0, 0, - vesaflush, + 0, }; — Daniel Lyons

[9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-02 Thread Daniel Lyons
anything in the archives about this problem. Alternatively, does anyone know if Parallels 4 works with a current kernel? If so I'll probably just upgrade to that; I've been holding off for a good reason to. Thanks, — Daniel Lyons