Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

2014-05-22 Thread Rubén Berenguel
It's homebrew, a package repository for OS X. OS X already comes with a ruby interpreter anyway. And this allows anyone to compile from source qemu 2.0.0 without much fuss. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > > On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel > wr

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

2014-05-22 Thread Rubén Berenguel
➜ ~ brew info qemu qemu: stable 2.0.0, HEAD http://www.qemu.org/ /usr/local/Cellar/qemu/1.5.1 (114 files, 90M) Built from source /usr/local/Cellar/qemu/2.0.0_1 (120 files, 98M) * Built from source From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb ==> Dependenci

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
don't know what I'll do from this point on, since this was a good "reasoned" way to justify an always on device with Plan9... Now I think it will be a device with Raspbian or Plan9 depending on what I want to do... And it will probably mean Raspbian more often than not (so I can use

Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

2014-03-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I'd bet almost always on the keyboard/periferal device, though. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:44 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Sounds like the keyboard went idle (on its own!?) and the Rasp lost > > connection to it. ep6.1 is the name of a USB device (something about > > logical unit devices or somet

Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

2014-03-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Sounds like the keyboard went idle (on its own!?) and the Rasp lost connection to it. ep6.1 is the name of a USB device (something about logical unit devices or something,) you can try unplugging something and you'll see similar things pop up. kb is complaining the keyboard went away, and since the

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Thanks Steve. In any case, I can't serve HFS+ serving files because P9 can't access them. But I could serve a FAT device. I finally managed to exportfs the drive, I'm not sure if due to a combination of things in /lib/namespace or the -t flag in listen1 did the trick, or the combination of the two

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-08 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I don't seem to have θfs, which is weird (the Raspberry Pi distribution is 9atom, isn't it?.) At least, its source is not in sys/src/cmd. I pulled changes 3 or 4 days ago. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 6:58 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sat Mar 8 12:55:25 EST 2014, ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: > > >

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-08 Thread Rubén Berenguel
The thing is, I don't want access to HFS+ from my Plan9 host. I want my Plan9 host to serve a HFS+ drive. Access is required, but it's not the end goal. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > I agree with Gorka, this would be a good GSoC project. > > But there are other ways to mo

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-08 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Sorry to be bothersome again, but still can't figure it out. I need /srv/dos available in /lib/namespace, so I can mount the external drive before anything else is done on the system, but to do so I need to execute dossrv, and in a namespace file I can't execute anything beside bind/mount and relat

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-08 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Thanks for the quick reply. Where is exactly the proper point to consider it as "started on boot"? I really don't know how the Plan9 boot process follows along (I guess "something" loads /lib/profile which in turn loads /rc/bin/termrc, but I'm not even sure about this ordering), and so far the docu

Re: [9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-08 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Thanks all for the prompt replies. I add a few answers: @Sergey: The point is using an existing HFS+ with ~500 GB of data. Moving all the data and reformatting is way beyond the time commitment I wanted to give to this, which was only the moderately convenient remote access. I know how to use disk

[9fans] Accessing Mac OS Extended drives

2014-03-07 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi all, can Plan9 access a USB disk formatted with HFS plus (i.e. the Mac OS Extended (& journaled) file system? The part about USB is just because it happens to be an USB drive, but basically I don't know how to mount the /dev/sdD.D/data. Of course, dossrv can't do it (already tried). Thanks,

Re: [9fans] Checking the status of a shell process

2014-03-03 Thread Rubén Berenguel
cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=es Matthias Bauer page: http://shoestringfoundation.org/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/2007/06/27#learned Knowing how to plug the mounted namespace screen to a current screen would be interesting, too. Thanks, Ruben On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Rubén Berenguel wrote:

[9fans] Checking the status of a shell process

2014-03-03 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I have a long running process on my remote Plan9 (it's compiling a huge thing and it's taking ages... Raspberry Pi, it explains it) and I'd like to remotely check if it has finished (I can already drawterm into it). I can at least check if /proc/id has finished, but is there a better way? I.e. for

Re: [9fans] [p9p] restart program on Acme Load

2014-01-10 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I've been using Acme from p9p to interact with gnu-apl (sadly it has some quirks that make it kind of unusable...) and I am also interested in hearing of a way to do it (it was a mild pain to have to write ./apl --emacs each time I opened and closed acme or gnu-apl crashed. Ruben On Fri, Jan 10,

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I somewhat agree that some of the answers you are getting have somewhat been (sometimes, not all, and not constantly) been insulting. But a year or so ago I was also a Plan9 newbie, and I just read the manuals when I didn't know how to do something. I followed some long-ago-read advice of first sma

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Seeing a Go link on your homepage I thought, oh, you also program in go? And then found that you actually *play* go (Google harmed a lot looking for information on the game). More surprising :D On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > This is not D. It is a language of my own de

Re: [9fans] Spell checking with acme in p9p

2013-12-15 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Sometimes (for long pieces of text like blog posts) I use wwb to check style and readability. Correcting something usually is 1. Right-click the line number in +errors 2. Correct 3. Go back to 1 For spell checking, tweaking aspell's output is best. Also, keep in mind that all the steps can be (af

Re: [9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

2013-12-14 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Right-click colon comma, like :, On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > fmt works fine. Thanks. BTW, besides 'Edit ,', is there an easier way > to select an entire file (to send to a program)? > > Thanks again. > > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Bence Fábián wrote: >

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
A kind of crude workaround is using the whole /Users/whatever/file with spaces, selecting it with first button and 1-2 chording it to Get. This works on Mac, problem is that it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate solution may be to use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I don't

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Rubén Berenguel
ear smoothly, fonts > without significant compression exist. How can I get "uncompressed" / much > higher resolution fonts for acme? > > Thanks. > > Blake > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Rubén Berenguel wrote: > >> Check here: >> >

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Rubén Berenguel
pload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Acme.png > http://research.swtch.com/acme > > Those look like mine. Obviously it is highly usable, but the fonts shown > are pixilated and not smooth like fonts that come with the Mac, Linux, etc. > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed,

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Rubén Berenguel
When I installed p9ports in my new Macbook Air (around 4 months ago), fontsrv didn't compile "out of the box," I had to compile it separately. For me all available fonts read perfectly well and sharp (Mac OS X 10.9 on Air 13" and Mac OS X 10.6.8 on Macbook 13") Regards, Ruben On Wed, Dec 11, 20

Re: [9fans] Help with plumbing rules

2013-11-06 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Tooting my own horn: I explained a few examples of plumbing rules in this post of mine (I posted it on reddit/r/plan9 a while ago) http://www.mostlymaths.net/2013/04/just-as-mario-using-plan9-plumber.html In the end, everything is written down in the various man pages describing plumb and plumber

Re: [9fans] Arduino YÚN port?

2013-10-30 Thread Rubén Berenguel
.@gmail.com> wrote: > Plan 9 has run on MIPS machines almost since inception. Mikrotik 450g is > the latest. checkout /sys/src/9/rb > > mikro% cat '#P/cputype' > MIPS 24k 680 > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Rubén Berenguel wrote: > >> Plan9

Re: [9fans] Arduino YÚN port?

2013-10-30 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Plan9 on a MIPS processor? On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Skip Tavakkolian < skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is anyone working on a port? Any thoughts on viability? > > -Skip >

Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

2013-10-20 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Erik, quick question: how can I go about getting it into one of my USB drives (if possible a method without needing a working P9, because all I have are virtual machines and I think they are in my other computer) and testing some of my "I'd like P9 here but installing got f*ed up"? I think every t

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com downtime?

2013-10-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Zhilkin wrote: > sources.cs.bell-labs.com and plan9.bell-labs.com are different machines, web > is sux, not a way to get sources :) > > > 2013/10/9 Rubén Berenguel >> >> Same here (Barcelona), repeatedly. >> >> Ruben >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:4

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com downtime?

2013-10-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Same here (Barcelona), repeatedly. Ruben On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM, James A. Robinson wrote: > I certainly can't get to it via port 80, I get a timeout. > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Alex Jordan > wrote: >> >> Anyone know why plan9.bell-labs.com/ is down? >> Yesterday I visited and

Re: [9fans] Rpi rca out?

2013-08-14 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I guess so. At least, I have tried with RCA-to-SCART and Plan9 worked correctly... but the resolution was far from optimal. HDMI rocks, though (even if my keyboard doesn't work with Plan9 :_( ) Ruben On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Roswell Grey wrote: > Is it possible to use the rca out on the

Re: [9fans] gif(1) bad images on mips

2013-08-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
It would be awesome (even if incredibly stupid without a mouse option and due to the small screen) to run it on a Ben Nanonote (MIPS, little endian IIRC, without floating point unit/extensions) Ruben On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > I'm curious where one can find a mips

Re: [9fans] Keyboard not working in Raspberry Plan9

2013-08-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I'm not absolutely sure if this settles it, but bInterfaceSubClas is 1 Boot Interface Subclass so it should (according to what I've read around usb.org and Wikipedia) support the usb boot protocol for keyboards... I'm completely unsure :/ Maybe I should grab a Logitech K120 (the plain, old simple k

Re: [9fans] Keyboard not working in Raspberry Plan9

2013-08-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I have no idea... How can I check? On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > The plan 9 usb keyboard driver only implements the simplified > 'boot protocol' which most, but not all, keyboards support. > Maybe this particular one doesn't? > >

[9fans] Keyboard not working in Raspberry Plan9

2013-08-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi all, I am trying to use a Cherry USB Keyboard (with ID card reader... of course I don't need the reader with P9 but it's the USB keyboard I have at hand) with P9 in the Raspberry. The keyboard works just fine with all other Raspberry OSes I have tried (Raspbian, RaspBMC and IIRC, I also tried

Re: [9fans] Networking in VirtualBox (DNS problem?)

2013-08-07 Thread Rubén Berenguel
plan_9_in_a_virtualbox/index.html > > I would recommend using qemu these days, though. > > Cheers, > > ingo > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Rubén Berenguel" > To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> > Cc: &

[9fans] Networking in VirtualBox (DNS problem?)

2013-08-07 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi all, The newest version of VirtualBox (4.2.16) works with Plan9 (at last!) but I can't figure out how to set up networking (I had no trouble setting it up with qemu before.) For reference, I'm using VirtualBox (the version described) in a MacBook. I have tried bridget and NAT for all adapters,

[9fans] Odd behaviour of "plumb" in plan9ports: Stripped line numbers

2013-04-20 Thread Rubén Berenguel
D--n! My fault: I had created a function named ag in rcmain (my first try involved a function and writing :ag something to test how to call rc functions from within acme and get this search feature working.) I had completely forgotten until a few seconds ago: removing it makes it work as expected.

[9fans] Odd behaviour of "plumb" in plan9ports: Stripped line numbers

2013-04-20 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi everyone, yesterday, out of boredom and geekness I decided to add a plumbing rule to my plumber, to allow me to search in subdirectories with The Silver Searcher (the command line ag, best described here: https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher) In short, ag "something to search" [where]

Re: [9fans] The 2-1 chord in P9Ports Acme (Mac OS)

2013-04-06 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Oh I wasn't meaning Apple forbids 3-button mice, but just a side remark at the fact that they only create one-buttoned things. I do have a 3-button mouse I plug occasionally to my Mac, but most often than not I forget it at home (or I'm too lazy to pick it up) and having this keyboard fallback is n

[9fans] The 2-1 chord in P9Ports Acme (Mac OS)

2013-04-06 Thread Rubén Berenguel
As you may know, Apple has an odd stance against multi-button mice and trackpads. Acme works surprisingly well with just one button, with the emulation of buttons 2 and 3 with alt+click and cmd+click. Problem is, with these settings there's no way to do a 2-1 chord, since "1" is already pressed whi

Re: [9fans] Use acme.rc with acme (p9p)

2013-04-03 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I run acme (in Mac OS X with zsh) as: SHELL=$PLAN9/bin/rc acme -a -f /mnt/font/Monaco/16a/font & to be able to use rc in Win. I guess this also loads all the stuff in profile.rc (I think I had tried this already a few weeks ago) and probably also acme.rc (didn't know about acme.rc, makes more sen

[9fans] Plan9 on laptops/netbooks

2013-04-02 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi all, I'm wondering if I can get a somewhat working native Plan9 installation in any of my "spare" machines. They would be (in order of more sparey to less sparey) Acer Aspire One (ZG5) Acer TravelMate 4001 LMi Acer Aspire 5865 WLMi (or something similar, quoting from memory) Intel Macbook (Ear

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

2013-03-26 Thread Rubén Berenguel
il, unknown error :/) but I have seen much pointless emails in the last 2 weeks and I was thinking of shutting the thing. Ruben On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On 26 March 2013 12:11, Rubén Berenguel wrote: > >> I'm starting to wonder why I dec

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

2013-03-26 Thread Rubén Berenguel
That's pretty meta on your part Hiro. I'm here for plan9 knowledge, tips, tricks, news and related things (I guess go is a related thing, although I still have to manage to install it... mercurial screwed me up last time I tried to install it in P9) As for picolisp dexen... Have never checked it (

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

2013-03-26 Thread Rubén Berenguel
I'm starting to wonder why I decided to subscribe to yet another newsgroup, after having unsubscribed from so many in the past for lack of content. I guess I never learn the required lessons. Ruben On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > >> It is possible to use computers without also using j

Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS

2013-03-20 Thread Rubén Berenguel
:) mail groups have these fun side effects. Although I controlled my /bin/Mail spurious program, the problem is I still can't get anything from my gmail account: mailfs -t imap.gmail.com mailfs: imapconnect: Unknown error: 0 Since it is an unknown error, I can't really tell what may be going on.

Re: [9fans] Some benevolent user...

2013-03-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Ben: Yup, I can write perfectly on your generated images, so it's not a problem with qemu. I thought the correct boot option would be 5, but then I'll use 9queen and then sooner or later I'll see if I can understand everything else is there, Plan9 is relatively complex in its namespace stuff (comin

[9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS

2013-03-10 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi again, I kind of figured what the problem may be last night before falling asleep. At first I thought it may be because I use zsh as shell, and it has this funny thing about changing uppercase for lowercase in case of need (which may shadow Mail as a shell command to execute /usr/bin/mail from

[9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS

2013-03-09 Thread Rubén Berenguel
Hi everyone, I'm trying (just for the sake of getting it to work!) to read my (imap) mail via acme from plan9ports. I got the mail file server started in my namespace (I can 9p ls mail and see my folders in INBOX for my work account, but I can't get gmail to work... Probably needs TLS support and