Re: [9fans] Plan9 and Pine

2020-04-29 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:53 AM Romano wrote: > > I am new to Plan9, but just as another data point, there was also > drawterm-android2 in the Plan9-Archive on github. I tried this past weekend > to get it up and running on an android emulator using Android Studio, but > wasn't very familiar wi

[9fans] Early Plan 9 Grid with Serial Killer Theme

2020-06-21 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
Somewhere between 15-20 years ago I remember an early public grid of plan 9 machines which amusingly featured hostnames of serial killers such as Dahmer and Bundy or whatever. There was also a gallery of failed attempts by script kiddies to use Linux and other Unix exploits on a plan 9 machine or t

Re: [9fans] Early Plan 9 Grid with Serial Killer Theme

2020-06-21 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 11:28 AM David Boswell wrote: > I recall a public VMS cluster with the theme and hostnames you mention. > > https://deathrow.vistech.net/410.html > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 9:13 AM Thaddeus Woskowiak > wrote: > > > > Somewhere between 15-20

Re: [9fans] Re: Flakey DNS server

2020-10-26 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:11 PM Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > Lucio's concern was about commercial enterprises bending Internet norms > to serve their bottom line at the expense of interoperation. > > Imagine if the physical city where you live allowed building codes to be > proprietary, and instead of

[9fans] Arm Thumb compiler for Cortex-M

2020-11-05 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
I would like to know if anyone is working on or exists an Arm Thumb compiler so one could use plan 9 to program Arm Cortex M0/3/4/7 microcontrollers directly. I know of Charles Forsyth's xc AVR compiler which is also interesting. Though I have yet to try it out. -taw -

Re: [9fans] Arm Thumb compiler for Cortex-M

2020-11-07 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
mount of work and we had no immediate application on the > Cortex. > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:38 PM Thaddeus Woskowiak > wrote: >> >> I would like to know if anyone is working on or exists an Arm Thumb >> compiler so one could use plan 9 to program Arm Co

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

2020-11-18 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:18 PM Anthony Sorace wrote: > > Richard asked: ... > Is this lightning bolt a hardware feature? Like, it overlays it on the > display, > even on Plan 9? I've never seen it. I'll watch for the power LED indicator. Correct. Though I have not seen them on my pi 3b+ running

Re: [9fans] Olimex: these guys are keen electronic engineers.

2021-02-28 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
I had a thought a while back: could one pilfer plan 9's libc and kernel guts to build an embedded c library à la newlib? The idea is a native hosted plan 9 microcontroller lab similar to arduino and your microcontroller program would look like a bare metal plan 9 program. A monitor or rtos would b

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-23 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:09 AM wrote: > > We are thrilled to announce that Nokia has transferred the copyright of > Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation. This transfer applies to all of the > Plan 9 from Bell Labs code, from the earliest days through their final > release. > > The most exciting imme

Re: [9fans] the #cat-v channel has moved to oftc

2021-06-22 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 5:57 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > freenode has deleted all channel and user accounts, including the > #cat-v IRC channel. > > we had already abandoned ship and moved to the oftc network instead, > but now the /topic redirecting users to oftc got deleted. > > our

Re: [9fans] Is POSIX:clock_gettime(2) in APE somewhere/anywhere?

2021-10-14 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
The Vita Nuova man pages are woefully outdated. You might want to consider purchasing the printed 9front man pages. http://9front.org/propaganda/books Of course the most up-to-date man pages are available via man after a sysupdate. > For what I need, in fact I can simply use nsec(2), diffing nan

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

2022-01-17 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:32 PM Matt wrote: > > But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even > though Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry > that one day they become too different, especially since the community is > rather centered aroun

Re: [9fans] Problems installing 9legacy on bare metal (Thinkpad X60)

2022-01-21 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
The following works on 9front: Escape to an rc shell by typing !rc at the boot prompt. Then type ls '#S' This will list all devices the storage device, sd(3), sees which includes CD/DVD, ATA, SATA, and SCSI drives. You can also run cat '#S/sdctl' which will give you more information about the contr

Re: [9fans] Problems installing 9legacy on bare metal (Thinkpad X60)

2022-01-22 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 10:32 AM yakkuliste via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > On Friday, 21 January 2022, at 2:02 PM, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > > Escape to an rc shell by typing !rc at the boot prompt. > > > Thanks for the pointer Thaddeus. I've tried, but i

Re: [9fans] Problems installing 9legacy on bare metal (Thinkpad X60)

2022-01-23 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:44 AM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > !rc (and the rest of the boot) is one of the first things implemented > > uniquely by 9front. > > I think there's a little bit of confusion about different stages of booting. > > The 9boot program loads the kernel. Th

Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-24 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
All of you throwing around curse words and other defamation should be ashamed of yourselves. You want peace yet you cast the first stones. Grow up. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 12:58 PM Clout Tolstoy wrote: > Can we be mindful of posting useful information? The original author, > albeit has an opinion

Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-24 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 1:06 PM Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > All of you throwing around curse words and other defamation should be > ashamed of yourselves. You want peace yet you cast the first stones. Grow > up. > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 12:58 PM Clout Tolstoy > wrote: >

Re: [9fans] building blocks speaking 9p

2022-01-27 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
I've been saying the same thing for years. 9p makes for a great control protocol that presents a simple way to present data, a tree of files. Charles Forsyth wrote an Atmega compiler for plan 9. That could be used as the basis for a plan 9 Arduino thing. We likely need a mulibc.h or whatever and a

Re: [9fans] building blocks speaking 9p

2022-01-28 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
The 9front /sys/src/9/zynq port is aiju board's kernel. That could be ported to another zynq board like the little digilent cora z7 or arty z7. Those are just examples, there are many other zynq 7000 boards. Aiju also did a cyclone SoC port for 9front. On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 4:08 PM Eli Cohen wro

Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

2022-05-21 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:13 PM adr wrote: > > On Sat, 21 May 2022, Aram H?v?rneanu wrote: > > Since Charles wrote the arm64 compiler, he can call it whatever he wants. > > I wasn't talking about any compiler. Yes, you can call your compiler > whatever you want. You can call it shitarm, just don't

Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

2022-05-22 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 7:45 PM adr wrote: > > Oh man, hiro, you always running to the fun... but sometimes I > don't know if you are smoking something good (let me know) or if > it is that you just don't even bore to read the threads before > jumping in anymore. > > I don't have any problem with

Re: [9fans] syscall silently kill processes

2022-06-17 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
I believe threadnotify() should be called from threadmain() to properly register the handler in the rendez group. On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:39 AM wrote: > > Hi all! > > Strange behavior of syscall 'read' with signal 'alarm' in followed > simple program (ip/port - not matter): > > -

Re: [9fans] syscall silently kill processes

2022-06-17 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:13 AM Jacob Moody wrote: > > On 6/17/22 07:46, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > > I believe threadnotify() should be called from threadmain() to > > properly register the handler in the rendez group > > This is incorrect, according to thread(2):

[9fans] Power mac support

2022-07-28 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
Hello, I am curious if there is a port of plan 9 to the Apple Power Mac series of computers, more specifically the 64 bit G5 machines but also the 32 bit G3/G4. I saved a G3 imac, two G4 towers, and two G5's from the scrap heap when a friend moved. I'd like for them to be useful. Cheers -taw

Re: [9fans] Trouble compiling "Hello, world"

2022-08-01 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
> it's a shared system that I didn't install myself. How are you connecting and interacting? On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 7:47 PM Jag Talon wrote: > > Thank you Skip and Jacob I'm running a Plan 9 instance through the SDF > Bootcamp so it's a shared system that I didn't install myself. I'll make sure

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2023-04-21 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
Has anyone written any code to deal with SCPI, Standard Commands for Programmable Instruments, on plan 9? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Commands_for_Programmable_Instruments I have a few instruments and just bought a cheap Kiprim Programmable DC power supply which works with 9front's nusb

Re: [9fans] No USB devices detected

2023-06-09 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
I recommend giving 9front a try and see if your USB devices are detected. If not then you are either out of luck or have a new project. On Fri, Jun 9, 2023, 3:22 PM Marco Feichtinger wrote: > I have an AsRock Rack E3C226D2I Motherboard. > When I boot the standard plan9 kernel after a fresh insta

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
> I'm not a troll; frustrated, perhaps. I just don't understand this culture. > You don't understand the culture because you did not bother to learn it. So if course you're frustrated and so are we. I don't think the issue lies with LLMs, but rather with an unwillingness to > cooperate unless the

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-07 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
Make sure to try and boot Linux first to ensure the pi is in fact working. I've had Pi's go bad on me for unknown reasons. They just died. 9front should boot and you can use USB Ethernet. Unsure about Wi-Fi though. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, 8:12 AM LdBeth wrote: > I think the latest 9front release h

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-08 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
All I ask (as well as others) is to be up front with LLM answers. Note: I'm not making accusations here, just a general statement. There's been far too much discourse here which is eroding the trust and quality of the list. I ask that we please be as civil as possible as well as honest and up fron