Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-05 Thread hiro
linux device trees are horror

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-05 Thread hiro
i cannot run armv5 binaries on armv5. what gives...

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-05 Thread Rui Carmo
Actually, there has been a trend towards standardising the device tree, and I can run ARM5 binaries on an ARMv7 without hassles. The jump to ARM64 does have some constraints, but I haven’t come across anything significant yet (at least on Linux). And you _will_ have ARM laptops (in volume) very

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-05 Thread hiro
About diversity: We're not at the size where we would move industry. This cost of supporting ARM is higher than it needs to, because every new ARM platform and every new SoC using a new ARM platform does everything differently, there are no stable standards or backwards-compatibility. I think the

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
RPi's aren't "the" answer, Exactly. There is no "one" answer. Hardware, peripherals, operating systems ... The "linux is everything" crowd is what's leading to the decimation of technological advancement these days.

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
RPi3 are reasonably capable for the price. For me, they make sense because: * RPis make it easy to try non-windows OS (including Plan 9). * Provide a usable, yet inexpensive ARM platform for Plan9. * (almost) all RPI hardware components are supported in Plan 9. * There is an enthusiastic communit

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread hiro
anybody who plans to buy a rpi for a laptop/desktop usage who is price limited please consider a thinkpad t43, x61, etc. from ebay. x201 is slightly faster but might also still be affordable depending on where you are, already has the crappier display ratio though ;)

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 09:45:51 + Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis writes: > On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, at 11:46 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > > Not to mention The RasPis are poor at > > reliability. Even a xenon flash or near a RasPi could power a > > RasPi2 down! And since they do no o

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Why do people even buy RasPis? 1) Serial port console servers. A Pi2 + StarTech USB 8-port serial is an inexpensive way to talk to console serial ports on routers, switches, firewalls, etc. 2) DHCP/TFTP servers used to remote PXE install the big iron in our data centres. 3) Interconnectin

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Steve Simon
i bought one (well, my employer bought me one) as a desktop machine. i don’t know where i could buy a headless pc or a used laptop for £30. i also have drivers for the hardware and an install process that takes 10 mins (copy the image to an sd card). they are not perfect, but a good comprise fo

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Rui Carmo
There’s a fair amount of FUD here. The light sensitivity was fixed with a new component run (and, incidentally, is not specific to the Pi, you can take out other exposed electronics/computers with a flash), and the reliability pretty much became a non-issue since the Pi 2. People buy Pis becaus

[9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, at 11:46 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > > Not to mention The RasPis are poor at > reliability. Even a xenon flash or near a RasPi could power a > RasPi2 down! And since they do no onboard power regulation, > people had lots of problems early on -- add one more USB > device and the t