Hi 9fans, Got some new ideas im excited about right now.
Apparently the author of the well-known 'intro to OS abstractions'
book has political views that are not cool and support oppression
maybe I have heard secondhand.
We need a better book to introduce people to 9.
I'd like to see something crea
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Hi 9fans, Got some new ideas im excited about right now.
Apparently the author of the well-known 'intro to OS abstractions'
ot; should be used only inside "transpiler" word when talking
> about computers :-) :-)
>
> thanx, a.b.
>
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>> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
>>
>> hello.
>>
>> please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political opinion, but
>> discuss it elsewhere.
>> sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpiler" word when talking
>> about computers :-) :-)
>>
>> thanx, a.b.
I agree. T
i suggest first you check your facts carefully before publicly accusing anyone
of anything.
throwing unchecked accusations around is a good way to start an angry mob, and
we all know how inclusive those tend to be.
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> On 24 Jan 2022, at 09:45, Steve Simon wrote:
>
> i suggest first you check your facts carefully before publicly accusing
> anyone of anything.
>
> throwing unchecked accusations around is a good way to start an angry mob,
> and we all know how inclusive those tend to be.
>
> -Steve
>
>
back to C and 9 :-)
shouldn't we write:
int i=0; ++i;
instead of +1
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:38 PM Duke Normandin wrote:
> >> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
> >>
> >> hello.
> >>
> >> please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political opinion, but
> >> discuss it elsewhere.
> >> sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpiler" word when ta
Maybe so! However it’s all the other bullshit that this list and Plan 9 doesn’t
need.
Too many opinions! Remember! Opinions are like assholes - everybody has one.
And you know what comes out of both more often than not!
Let’s play with Plan 9 and friends and keep the bizarro bullshit at home.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:38:19AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>
>
> >> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
> >>
> >> hello.
> >>
> >> please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political opinion, but
> >> discuss it elsewhere.
> >> sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpi
Fuck you asshole! It’s garbage like you that morphs pleasant venues into
fucking cesspools.
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:38:19AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>>
>>
On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
did I subscribe to 9fags ? 🤔
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:51, Duke Normandin wrote:
> Fuck you asshole! It’s garbage like you that morphs pleasant venues into
> fucking cesspools.
>
> > On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at
Can we be mindful of posting useful information? The original author,
albeit has an opinion, but also offered resources for work. I would put
that on the useful side of things. Simply lamenting an opinion because it
doesn't align with yours is edging on spamming. They have been forward with
themsel
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 06:55:27PM +0100, Alexandr Babic wrote:
> >> I agree. This mailing list is turning out to be a bit too fucking bizarro
> >> for my taste.
> > If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Nobody owes you a
> > safe space, snowflake.
>
> khm, you are using snowflak
All of you throwing around curse words and other defamation should be
ashamed of yourselves. You want peace yet you cast the first stones. Grow
up.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 12:58 PM Clout Tolstoy wrote:
> Can we be mindful of posting useful information? The original author,
> albeit has an opinion
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 1:06 PM Thaddeus Woskowiak
wrote:
> All of you throwing around curse words and other defamation should be
> ashamed of yourselves. You want peace yet you cast the first stones. Grow
> up.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 12:58 PM Clout Tolstoy
> wrote:
>
>> Can we be mindful of
> Fuck you asshole! It’s garbage like you that morphs pleasant venues into
fucking cesspools.
The lack of self awareness is just stunning.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:03, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 06:55:27PM +0100, Alexandr Babic wrote:
> > >> I agr
khm is absolutely right, some of you are entirely missing the point.
If you REALLY want 9fans to be about "no politics" y'all shall
discuss what should be done or should be avoided in a new book, what
other books got wrong and maybe if theres something to save about the
one op is paying to substit
+1
Instead of responding to an idea that would potentially benefit the whole of
the community, several people got *personally offended* about the fact that the
original author wanted to make sure that the effort was inclusive [as there
*are* LGBTQ+, differently abled, and neurodivergent develo
Oh no. Someone doesn’t like Intro to OS abstractions! Someone on the internet
has an opinion about someone that you may not agree with!
*clutches pearls* *swoons*
You are an adult, right? You can understand people have different opinions and
motivations. He and others don’t like Mr. Ballesteros
Hi mycroftiv!
I'd be happy to lend some support and at least match your bounty. There's a
lot to explore in the 9 universe beyond what has been covered so far, and I
think the work you've done with ants and grid has been fantastic - and
shows your dedication to growing the ecosystem and welcoming
This thread has stopped being respectful and productive. Let's stop here.
Thanks.
Best,
Russ
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, hiro wrote:
adr, you seem overly invested only judging from the amount of text,
where you counter politics, with more politics, and shitty extremely
uninformed rhetorics.
Can you at least respect the administrator of the list and wait to
another threat to troll as usual?
i reported your mail to the admin, too.
On 1/25/22, adr wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, hiro wrote:
>
>> adr, you seem overly invested only judging from the amount of text,
>> where you counter politics, with more politics, and shitty extremely
>> uninformed rhetorics.
>
> Can you at least respect
censorship, very heroistic :-D :-(
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, Lucio De Re wrote:
Microftiv deserves the same kind of respect as Nemo and I think - he
can correct me in private if I'm mistaken, I'll publish the correction
if requested to - the former meant to express that respect, but his
subconscious nabbed him.
I also feel the pressu
@adr +10
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> On 25. Jan 2022, at 9.23, adr wrote:
>
> Just for curiosity, in what thread people has been harassed here
> for race, sexual orientation, disablility or whatever you want to
> add to the list social champion?
>
Perhaps when you said, quote, "I think you are not bipolar, you are just
another
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> Insulting people... First this moron that is polluting the mailing
> list with his stupid bot. It can be funny to you now, wait some
> time when you'll try to search the archives.
Are you now trying to casually create the impression that you must
have confused mycroftiv with said bot?
> Then th
On 1/25/22 03:58, hiro wrote:
A decade ago this list was still a pleasant space
not really. but i guess you weren't around to truly experience it?
haven't seen your name in older archives.
Back then we had discordians disrupting things for sport.
The latest vandal version is the social justic
Yo! Work with them if you want to, don't work with them if you don't want
to.
So, please stop spamming the list with useless infos. Where are all the
adults here?
Most of you have posted NOTHING useful and probably feel proud of yourself,
perhaps angry at others?
If you can't control what triggers
no regards at all. stop spamming mr. clout.
On 1/25/22, Clout Tolstoy wrote:
> Yo! Work with them if you want to, don't work with them if you don't want
> to.
> So, please stop spamming the list with useless infos. Where are all the
> adults here?
> Most of you have posted NOTHING useful and prob
It's actually Mr. Tolstoy. Mr. Clout Tolstoy, and to be frank if you're not
useful or
have interest in helping, why waste your time? I have interest in helping
if I can.
What do you have to offer? Really? I have plenty of time to offer.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:19 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wro
(this sat in my queue for a few days, I originally wrote it when there
were just 1-2 replies, then saw Russ's message and I held off, but it
looks like the thread is still going, so I might as well fix it
up a bit and send it.)
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 05:12:10 -0600
mycroftiv 9gridchan wrote:
> Hi 9
Hi raingloom, mycroftiv and 9fans,
As you might know I'm pretty heretic in Plan 9 (as much that my for is called
Jehanne)
and I'm also very sympathetic with SJW victims, mostly because SJW basically
try to impose worldwide a US-workplace ethos that is compatible with US-styled
corporate managem
Quoth raingloom :
> Side note: technology is political. Deal with it.
Everything is political, but allowing posts on a
topic to become explicitly political generally ends
up completely derailing the technical topic.
All too often, the only post with technical content
is the first post in a thread
> Side note: technology is political. Deal with it.
I disagree.
Most of the time the forces in power will survive the changes in
technology or even use it for their own benefit, possibly against you
or against your philosophy you came up for in support of your
technology.
Of course there could be
On 1/27/22 16:02, hiro wrote:
the majority of "hackers" have already failed to be political, when
they sold their souls to the big corps like google and amazon.
You mean like https://silibandia.com?
*Wes Kussmaul*
*Reliable Identities, Inc.*
an Authenticity Enterprise
738 Main Street
Wal
Quoth hiro <23h...@gmail.com>:
> > Side note: technology is political. Deal with it.
>
> I disagree.
Can you please disagree off-list?
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Hi hiro.
History is full of counter examples that contraddict your thesis.
At least since neolithic, human organization has been determinated by
technology.
The most recent (and most directly related to informatics) were Gutemberg's
movable-type
printing press, Meucci's telephone, the general p
> It's important to discuss politics.
>
> Elsewhere.
Since everything is political, it has to be discussed everywhere. At
least until everybody gets tired and resumes their non-political
boring everyday stupors.
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ori wrote:
All too often, the only post with technical content
is the first post in a thread. The technical content
is drowned in the bullshit.
As a result, help is given off-list if it's given at
all. It protects the questioner from the deluge of
noise, but hides any debugging steps from anyo
> Imagine I post that you are a fascist and that because of that we
> need another git client. I'm sure the same people that have been
> trolling in this thread would be defending you.
No need to imagine, as this has already happened.
No big deal, as the mob (on twitter/hitlernews/etc.) calmed dow
On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 10:24:36 +
Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> Hi raingloom, mycroftiv and 9fans,
>
> As you might know I'm pretty heretic in Plan 9 (as much that my for
> is called Jehanne) and I'm also very sympathetic with SJW victims,
> mostly because SJW basically try to impose worldwide a US-wo
>> I agree. This mailing list is turning out to be a bit too fucking bizarro
>> for my taste.
> If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Nobody owes you a
> safe space, snowflake.
khm, you are using snowflake here in wrong context :-(
first letter from original author was snowflaki
keith, nice analysis, but what would you think about original post:
>>Apparently the author of the well-known 'intro to OS abstractions' book has
>>political views that are not cool and support oppression maybe I have heard
>>secondhand.
this insult to author of 'intro to OS abstractions' is
maybe a more recent book could be a community effort at least a bit, I
would be interested in contributing to such a project.
as for nemo... I have no idea who he is really, but that book is pretty
good, although very specific to the setup in his lab
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 10:34 AM Alexandr Babic
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