On Thu May 17 12:11:27 EDT 2012, un...@cpan.org wrote:
> cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:37:09AM MST:
> > you can do without a "other" fs. we added support for +t flags like
> > there is in fossil, so you can just mark directories and files
> > as temporary in the "main" filesy
cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:37:09AM MST:
> you can do without a "other" fs. we added support for +t flags like
> there is in fossil, so you can just mark directories and files
> as temporary in the "main" filesystem so they dont get dumped
> to worm. (this works recursively
no. lets look at a cwfs config.
filsys main c(/dev/sdC0/fscache)(/dev/sdC0/fsworm)
filsys dump o
filsys other (/dev/sdC0/fsother)
main is composed from fscache and fsworm. the cache contains the current
working set of blocks.
when data is requested and its not in the cache, it is read from
the w
On Thu May 17 11:46:03 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@markit.com wrote:
> The defaults in my 9front installation were other, fscache and fsworm. Does
> fscache == main and fsworm == dump?
>
yes.
- erik
> you can do without a "other" fs. we added support for +t flags like
> there is in fossil, so you can just mark directories and files
> as temporary in the "main" filesystem so they dont get dumped
> to worm. (this works recursively on directories)
>
> but requires a bigger fscache partition if y
Subject: Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience
no. your user data is not in "other" filesystem. basicly there are 3
filesystems that cwfs exports after 9front installation.
"main", "dump" and "other". "main" is the primary file system
no. your user data is not in "other" filesystem. basicly there
are 3 filesystems that cwfs exports after 9front installation.
"main", "dump" and "other". "main" is the primary file system
that gets archived to the worm in daily intervals. the archival
snapshots (dump) appear as directories in the r
> the worm is not a wayback machine, it is the main storage!
Maybe I was getting confused with venti (as in fossil+venti)? I guess I
thought that since cwfs was standalone that it incorporated both systems into
one.
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> I have a question about the 9front/cwfs64x default partition layout,
> which I picked because I'm a noob with this. On my 80G did, it
> suggested a ~10G other, ~10G fscache, and a ~50G fsworm parition.
> After rebooting it looks like other is where my user directory is. So
> with this layout of
> Please read cwfs(4) man page. In there is a description of the
> different partitions and their uses. In particular you don't want
> fscache to fill up as it causes the front to fall off.
> It sounds also like you may need to read up on cache/worm filesystems in
> general. in your case 10
> Please read cwfs(4) man page. In there is a description of the different
> partitions and their uses. In particular you don't want fscache to fill up
> as it causes the front to fall off.
> It sounds also like you may need to read up on cache/worm filesystems in
> general. in your case 10G is
> installing 9atom with the 9front boot loader doesn't work. the
>> prompt i a characteristic of it.
Unless there was residuals from the previous install that weren't
overwritten then I was doing a clean install of both the labs and
9atom distro.
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Burton Samograd
On Thu May 17 08:41:24 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote:
> I think I'll have to stick with 9front. I tried the official dist CD
> and 9atom last night and both managed to install this time but
> rebooting either of them would give a "no bootfile" error and a '>'
> prompt that would take n
On 5/17/2012 7:39 AM, Burton Samograd wrote:
I think I'll have to stick with 9front. I tried the official dist CD
and 9atom last night and both managed to install this time but
rebooting either of them would give a "no bootfile" error and a '>'
prompt that would take no input. 9front is the onl
I think I'll have to stick with 9front. I tried the official dist CD
and 9atom last night and both managed to install this time but
rebooting either of them would give a "no bootfile" error and a '>'
prompt that would take no input. 9front is the only dist that works
reliably enough to install a
its a hexdump of the machines mp table. if you boot with *dumpmp=, the
kernel will dump its mp table to the console where it can be captured
from /dev/kmesg or other means like serial console.
normally, mp table is provided by the bios and placed in some memory
area where the kernel can find it. i
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Subject: Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience
This is the plan9.ini on my T61, for use with the latest 9front kernel. With
these settings mp, Ethernet and USB all work (the integrated mouse button 2
does not work).:
bootfile=9pcf
bootargs=local!/dev/sdE0/fscache
the hardware for different t23s, for instance, could be quite different.
i used to buy them up and swap the bits round.
On 16 May 2012 16:02, erik quanstrom wrote:
> or, (c), there is not a single bios version for all t61s.
On Wed May 16 11:02:14 EDT 2012, skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote:
> 2 or 3 years ago i installed the bell-labs iso on a Thinkpad T61p at
> my office and it was uneventful.
>
> like brucee, i can't recall using any tricks; so this could mean
> either (a) no tricks were required or (b) there's some
2 or 3 years ago i installed the bell-labs iso on a Thinkpad T61p at
my office and it was uneventful.
like brucee, i can't recall using any tricks; so this could mean
either (a) no tricks were required or (b) there's something wrong with
my memory because clearly i would have had to jump through h
Bruce Ellis wrote:
a friend gave me a T61 and the bell-labs iso installed just fine. i
can't recall using any tricks, pretty much however the bios was
configured - i did it in the pub.
Is the fact that you did it in the pub the reason that you "can't recall"?
On Wed May 16 10:25:41 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
> no, thats why we removed dmaon in 9front. we have a kernel
> option now to disable dma, but default is enabled.
i did the same, but 15 minutes. since your only installing ~500mb,
and only about 50 or less got installed means the disk i
On Wed May 16 10:27:24 EDT 2012, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote:
> actually, it is a huge difference. there's also "rwm on".
>
> On 16 May 2012 15:05, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> > no. though i doubt there would be a 10x reduction in performance.
> > one could reasonablly get 10mb/s with pio.
> though i doubt there would be a 10x reduction in performance.
I already measured a 4MB/s to 40MB/s difference on
some controllers, but I don't have the exact numbers
and condition right now.
--
David du Colombier
actually, it is a huge difference. there's also "rwm on".
On 16 May 2012 15:05, erik quanstrom wrote:
> no. though i doubt there would be a 10x reduction in performance.
> one could reasonablly get 10mb/s with pio. (if it working.)
>
no, thats why we removed dmaon in 9front. we have a kernel
option now to disable dma, but default is enabled.
we also have virtio drivers for qemu/kvm.
--
cinap
> Is there any remaining reason today for dmaon not being the default?
I don't think so, but I have this following patch still pending:
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/patch/maybe/sdata-dma/
Erik also provides a way to enable DMA in plan9.ini,
as part of 9atom.
Personally, I ended up with th
On Wed May 16 09:52:32 EDT 2012, nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote:
> Le 16/05/2012 15:14, David du Colombier a écrit :
> > Have you enabled DMA at the begin of the installation
> > process? Whitout DMA, your disk i/o will likely be
> > something like ten times slower.
>
> Is there any remaining reason toda
Le 16/05/2012 15:14, David du Colombier a écrit :
Have you enabled DMA at the begin of the installation
process? Whitout DMA, your disk i/o will likely be
something like ten times slower.
Is there any remaining reason today for dmaon not being the default?
Nicolas
Le 16/05/2012 14:24, Burton Samograd a écrit :
So, in the end I got 9front installed but now the bell labs wiki isn't
very helpful since so much has
changed, with the first being how to add a new user among other
things. To be honest, I'd rather
be using the Bell Labs iso so if anybody could giv
This is the plan9.ini on my T61, for use with the latest
9front kernel. With these settings mp, Ethernet and USB
all work (the integrated mouse button 2 does not work).:
bootfile=9pcf
bootargs=local!/dev/sdE0/fscache
nobootprompt=local!/dev/sdE0/fscache
nvram=/dev/sdE0/nvram
mouseport=ps2
monitor=
> The bell labs iso would boot but not find the disk leading
> to some confusion when I didn't notice it was trying to
> partition the install CD during installation
Which Plan 9 CD image have you tried? The first Plan 9 CD
including the new bootstraps was published just yesterday.
> after settin
> again just to see if it works a different time. Maybe I'll give 9atom
> a shot too
I had to switch to 9atom some time asgo whe I bought my first sata-ii hd
(but it was not on a laptop). If there is an option "Configure SATA(or IDE)
as AHCI" in your BIOS,
use it.
regards,
++pac
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
> a friend gave me a T61 and the bell-labs iso installed just fine. i
> can't recall using any tricks, pretty much however the bios was
> configured - i did it in the pub.
Did you have DMA enabled on the disks? I chose yes at that prompt now I'
a friend gave me a T61 and the bell-labs iso installed just fine. i
can't recall using any tricks, pretty much however the bios was
configured - i did it in the pub.
brucee
On 16 May 2012 22:24, Burton Samograd wrote:
> I got my Thinkpad T61 last night and installation was somewhat
> successful
I got my Thinkpad T61 last night and installation was somewhat
successful but not without problems:
- the main thing was to set the SATA controller to 'Compatibility'
mode. 9front would find the disk
and install correctly but would get stuck after the pbs if this was
not set. The bell labs iso
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