Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-13 Thread Richard Miller
st...@quintile.net: > the issue is 9boot would need tls to be able download the kernel from a > file server and it doesn’t have it. this is the labs boot procedure of > course. > > 9front booting uses a full kernel to bootstrap (correct me if i am wrong) > so tls is not a problem there. There

Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-11 Thread Rodrigo G . López
yes that's right. On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 4:57 PM Steve Simon wrote: > > using tlssrv is an option, as is import, but what was saying it fossil’s > native 9p server does not support tls, which it doesn't - i dont believe > anyone has added it. > > the issue is 9boot would need tls to be able

Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-11 Thread Steve Simon
using tlssrv is an option, as is import, but what was saying it fossil’s native 9p server does not support tls, which it doesn't - i dont believe anyone has added it. the issue is 9boot would need tls to be able download the kernel from a file server and it doesn’t have it. this is the labs

Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-11 Thread Rodrigo G . López
i'm sorry, what? lack of TLS? go read 9front's tlssrv(8). it's been there for a while already. -rodri On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 11:32 AM Steve Simon wrote: > > fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been > solid. > > what is too big - honest question. > > i thought the

Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-11 Thread Steve Simon
fyi i have been running a fossil/venti pair since 2004 and it has been solid. what is too big - honest question. i thought the biggest issues are: performance - the elegance and generality sacrifice some performance, though this is not a problem for me. lack of a tls fs interface - there

Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-10 Thread Lucio De Re
On 1/10/20, mycrof...@sphericalharmony.com wrote: [ ... ] > > - The Present Day, SHA1, community > [ ... ] > [ ...] 2020 seems like a Year of Change and I'm hoping for > positive change in the Plan 9 community. I'm particularly excited for > the reincarnation of a real-life Plan 9

Re: [9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-10 Thread hiro
> The major fly in the ointment is the outdated sha1 hash function used by venti major? fly? there's no problem with how sha1 is used by venti right now. a more substantial complaint would be that the venti/fossil system is way too big. -- 9fans: 9fans

[9fans] notes on fossil, ANTS, and 9front/Bell labs controversies

2020-01-10 Thread mycroftiv
This is also posted at http://doc.9gridchan.org/blog/200110.fossil.9front This post is a survey of technical and community issues connected to Plan 9 root file servers. The author is not a member of any Plan 9 tribe save Grid. Opinions are entirely my own and a lot of unsourced claims will be