Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-30 Thread sl
I ended up writing a ned-alike that is just a shell script: http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/mother This is what I actually use. sl

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-30 Thread erik quanstrom
Ned is what I usually use.  I don't use any accompanying scripts, but I've made a number of changes to ned itself.  I find g/unwanted/d to be way more efficient than acme.- erik

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2018-11-30 10:10 AM, s...@9front.org wrote: It's not clear why you think the interface provided by upasfs(4) is captive, or why you insist acme needs to be involved at all. I'm writing this message with nedmail/marshal, connected to Plan 9 in a plain SSH terminal session -> OpenBSD -> drawterm

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread sl
It's not clear why you think the interface provided by upasfs(4) is captive, or why you insist acme needs to be involved at all. I'm writing this message with nedmail/marshal, connected to Plan 9 in a plain SSH terminal session -> OpenBSD -> drawterm -G. No GUI or terminal frills or frippery is

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2018-11-30 09:02 AM, s...@9front.org wrote: is that "mail" you mention similar to "mailx" under unix-like systems? the problem is one of not wanting a captive user-interface to the mailing sub-system. On Plan 9, 'mail' is a shell script that invokes either nedmail(1) or marshal(1), depending

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread sl
> is that "mail" you mention similar to "mailx" under unix-like systems? > the problem is one of not wanting a captive user-interface to the > mailing sub-system. On Plan 9, 'mail' is a shell script that invokes either nedmail(1) or marshal(1), depending on the flags it consumes. The nedmail pro

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Steve Simon
you can send mail with the mail command, just like traditional mailers. reading mail: i use the same tool but envoked from faces(1) - right click on the face of the person who sent the mail to read the message. people tend to be very impressed with faces to this day. great interface. -Steve >

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:27:09PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > is that "mail" you mention similar to "mailx" under unix-like systems? > the problem is one of not wanting a captive user-interface to the > mailing sub-system. > You're looking for nedmail(1), I think. Hopefully sl will chime

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2018-11-29 08:04 PM, Dan Cross wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:45 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: hello, is it possible to use "upas" without relying on acme? it might be uncomfortable (relatively speaking), but is it possible? Yes. This is quite reasonable. To a first order approximation, `up

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Dan Cross
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:45 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > hello, > > is it possible to use "upas" without relying on acme? > it might be uncomfortable (relatively speaking), but is it possible? > Yes. This is quite reasonable. To a first order approximation, `upas` is a mail transfer agent, for mo

Re: [9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Alexander Sychev
Hi, Sure, no problem. Upas exports a filesystem, you can read it :-) Although I use plan9port version of upas with acme and my client 'amail', sometimes I use 9p to read, for example, a raw message body to send it to spam analitics. But reading messages is uncomfortable, it is true. On Thu, Nov 2

[9fans] upas : without acme : possible?

2018-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, is it possible to use "upas" without relying on acme? it might be uncomfortable (relatively speaking), but is it possible? ~mayuresh