Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:38 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Wed Sep 2 10:33:07 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Q: Will C continue to be important into the future? (Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
Clarifying context: this was at a hpc clusters conference -- their view of fortran is not your view of fortran. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2009, at 9:29 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Q: Will C continue to be important into the future? (Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread erik quanstrom
Found the reference: http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/archive/SweeneyHPG2009/TimHPG2009.pdf on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one cannot do CSP without pure functional programming. the thread library is clearly better than i thought. it can turn ordinary c into a functional programming

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread Richard Miller
http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/archive/SweeneyHPG2009/TimHPG2009.pdf on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one cannot do CSP without pure functional programming. (p ⇒ q) ⇏ (¬p ⇒ ¬q)

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.comwrote: Clarifying context: this was at a hpc clusters conference -- their view of fortran is not your view of fortran. Having supported Fortran for MPI implementations before, I know what you mean :-) Sent from my iPhone

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/archive/SweeneyHPG2009/TimHPG2009.pdf on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one cannot do CSP without pure functional programming. (p ⇒ q) ⇏ (¬p ⇒ ¬q) That's interesting

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread erik quanstrom
on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one cannot do CSP without pure functional programming. (p ⇒ q) ⇏ (¬p ⇒ ¬q) That's interesting because pure functional programming doesn't exist at all in the strictest sense on a computer. One MUST be able to cause side effects during

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote: on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one cannot do CSP without pure functional programming. (p ⇒ q) ⇏ (¬p ⇒ ¬q) That's interesting because pure functional programming doesn't exist at all

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: Q: Will C continue to be important into the future? (Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like Fortran has let me explain the joke. In HPC circles, people have been predicting the death of fortran for 30 years. Fortran

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread Brian L. Stuart
Q: Will C continue to be important into the future? (Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like Fortran has let me explain the joke. In HPC circles, people have been predicting the death of fortran for 30 years. Fortran has continued to grow and thrive. The predictions continue,

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Cast
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 11:27 -0700, David Leimbach wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/archive/SweeneyHPG2009/TimHPG2009.pdf on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.netwrote: Q: Will C continue to be important into the future? (Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like Fortran has let me explain the joke. In HPC circles, people have been predicting the death of fortran

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Cast jonathancc...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 11:27 -0700, David Leimbach wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Cast
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:02 -0700, David Leimbach wrote: And if you prefer a plea to authority over logic, I haven't said anything that Simon Peyton Jones hasn't himself said about Haskell. Well, I disagree quite strongly about Simon Peyton Jones about a number of things. Which I think I

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Jonathan Cast jonathancc...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:02 -0700, David Leimbach wrote: And if you prefer a plea to authority over logic, I haven't said anything that Simon Peyton Jones hasn't himself said about Haskell. Well, I disagree

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-02 Thread Roman V Shaposhnik
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:11 -0700, Brian L. Stuart wrote: Q: Will C continue to be important into the future? (Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like Fortran has let me explain the joke. In HPC circles, people have been predicting the death of fortran for 30 years.

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