Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Paul Lalonde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Victoria, BC might be possible; but that's a lot of timezones for our european friends. Paul On 11-Dec-06, at 7:22 PM, ron minnich wrote: is canada easier for people? toronto or even somewhere really cool like newfoundland? ron -BEGIN PG

Re: Again: (self)hosted Plan9? Was: [9fans] extending xen to allow

2006-12-11 Thread Lucio De Re
> - writing drivers sucks. There are two components: the hardware and the primitives in the operating system or, preferably, in the programming language. PC-hardware sucks, but in practice Xen, VMware and their ilk are all trying to provide an abstraction that doesn't. Is it really true that Pla

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread John Floren
On 12/11/06, Lucio De Re <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is canada easier for people? toronto or even somewhere really cool > like newfoundland? South Africa? I see there are around thirty people in Nemo's picture, I don't think it would be too hard to accommodate as many in my little home village

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Lucio De Re
> is canada easier for people? toronto or even somewhere really cool > like newfoundland? South Africa? I see there are around thirty people in Nemo's picture, I don't think it would be too hard to accommodate as many in my little home village, but Cape Town or Johannesburg may be better suited a

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread ron minnich
is canada easier for people? toronto or even somewhere really cool like newfoundland? ron

Re: Again: (self)hosted Plan9? Was: [9fans] extending xen to allow

2006-12-11 Thread Russ Cox
We talked at length about this issue at IWP9 without a lot of consensus. However, I think that many of us agreed on these points: - writing drivers sucks. - copying Linux and Windows will accomplish very little. - one significant place where Plan 9 wins is using it as a versatile base for build

Re: Again: (self)hosted Plan9? Was: [9fans] extending xen to allow

2006-12-11 Thread Dave Eckhardt
> so suppose we have javascript and all that jazz working on plan 9, > would all that goo have vitiated the reason we were drawn to plan 9 > in the first place? Because I need to share bits with people who use MS Office, I need to run OpenOffice roughly daily. But not all day, so a combination of

Re: [9fans] some snapshots of iwp9

2006-12-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
It´s taking some time for us to put the photos at the ws web site. Here you can take a look to what we have in the mean time. We´ll put all the ones we get in the official web site, in a few days. Just put 'em on an FTP server somewhere. Nobody on this list owns a web browser, anyway :-) --

[9fans] some snapshots of iwp9

2006-12-11 Thread franciscojose
It´s taking some time for us to put the photos at the ws web site. Here you can take a look to what we have in the mean time. We´ll put all the ones we get in the official web site, in a few days. Enjoy http://picasaweb.google.com/nemo.mbox/Iwp9?authkey=yHPcsVLovHA picasaweblogo-es.gif Descript

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread John Floren
On 12/11/06, Joel Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/11/06, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd vote for New York, but Austin is fine too :) Here's another vote for New York. (Especially if it can include a field trip across the Hudson to the land of New Jersey, where once d

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Matt
Hello everyone. Thanks for a great time last week. I've only really just come down to earth ! As for next time - I'd rather avoid US Immigration fingerprinting / profiling etc. but hey, whoever can get it sorted, that's the one for me, even somewhere alcohol dry like Saudi Arabia might be

Re: [9fans] plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup

2006-12-11 Thread erik quanstrom
i have seen variations on this problem in a number of situations. even when mounting the sam upas/fs after posting to /srv, faces and upas/nedmail don't play nicely under drawterm for me. the faces display properly and reflect the contents of the mailbox, but clicking on the face yields "message

Re: [9fans] plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup

2006-12-11 Thread Gabriel Diaz
hello oh!! thanks, i don't know why i was expecting some magic to happen :-) gabi On 12/11/06, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (posting again with a slight change. i had the order of plumber/upasfs wrong) acme mail under the same conditions has the same behavior. my guess is that

Re: [9fans] ipw9-2007

2006-12-11 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2006/12/11, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sydney is a great city, but so is New York, the US is much cheaper for me to get to; but November is summer in OZ... That hasn't helped much has it? I will be in New York (I live there), I will not be in Sydney (I can't afford to fly + stay). If my

Re: [9fans] plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup

2006-12-11 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
(posting again with a slight change. i had the order of plumber/upasfs wrong) acme mail under the same conditions has the same behavior. my guess is that upasfs deals with /mnt/plumb in the name space it was invoked in (i.e. the plumber that started before upas/fs was started). so maybe if ( test

Re: [9fans] plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup

2006-12-11 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
acme mail under the same conditions has the same behavior. my guess is that upasfs deals with /mnt/plumb in the name space it was invoked in (i.e. the plumber that started before upas/fs was started). so maybe if ( test -r /srv/upasfs.$user ){ mount /srv/plumb4upas.$user /mnt/plumb mount -c /srv/u

Re: [9fans] plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup

2006-12-11 Thread Steve Simon
I think the problm is that you have two copies of the plumber. faces(1) sends events to "showmail" which causes the plumber to start nedmail to view your messages. faces also listens to the plumbers "seemail" port - and is usually sent messages by upas/fs when new mail arrives or mail is deleted.

[9fans] plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup

2006-12-11 Thread Gabriel Diaz
hello I'm trying to avoid starting more than one upasfs with my user, so i use this on my profile: plumber ... if ( test -r /srv/upasfs.$user ){ mount -c /srv/upasfs.$user /mail/fs } if not { upas/fs -s mount -c /srv/upasfs.$user /mail/fs } ... rio starts seems that when i log on, upasfs is cor

[9fans] ipw9-2007

2006-12-11 Thread Steve Simon
Sydney is a great city, but so is New York, the US is much cheaper for me to get to; but November is summer in OZ... That hasn't helped much has it? -Steve

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Joel Salomon
On 12/11/06, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd vote for New York, but Austin is fine too :) Here's another vote for New York. (Especially if it can include a field trip across the Hudson to the land of New Jersey, where once dwelt the fair maidens UNIX and Plan 9. (Is anyone at

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Gorka guardiola
On 12/11/06, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can probably pull resources together to host here in Austin at IBM, but I'd rather go to Sydney :) I agree :-). -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
I'd vote for New York, but Austin is fine too :) Thanks, Lucho On Dec 11, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: I can probably pull resources together to host here in Austin at IBM, but I'd rather go to Sydney :) -eric On 12/11/06, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Errr. Austin is closer than Sydney :) My 2cents. On 12/11/06, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can probably pull resources together to host here in Austin at IBM, but I'd rather go to Sydney :) -eric On 12/11/06, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sydney? I ca

Re: [9fans] IWP9 talks?

2006-12-11 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
I can probably pull resources together to host here in Austin at IBM, but I'd rather go to Sydney :) -eric On 12/11/06, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sydney? I can probably get it together. brucee On 12/10/06, Gorka guardiola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/8/06, Paul La