Why do you need linuxemu when i've got linux running under it? Just wondering :)
Thanks,
Lucho
On Jan 24, 2008 3:16 PM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /n/sources/contrib/rminnich/lguest/thx9.bz2
>
> includes fgb's ssh2, linuxemu, abaco, and links.
>
> It's the wrong webfs I guess as
If I remember correctly, the CVM port was mostly working, it had some
problems with the network classes that I didn't bother to fix. I lost
interest because there was not a practical (i.e. one that doesn't
require talking to lawyers and managers at Sun) way of distributing
the port. The lic
The problem is that you have to go with GNU for everything. You have
to use their assembler, linker, object format, compiler and debugger.
You need two compile every Plan9 library for ?c and gcc separately.
On Nov 14, 2007 12:16 PM, Bakul Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Making binutils to grok
AFAIK there is one more unfinished attempt to bring ssh2 to Plan9. I
am not going to mention names ;)
On Nov 14, 2007 11:05 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2007 11:39 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Fact is gcc is a de-facto standard
> >
> > I'm still tryin
Making binutils to grok Plan9 aout is not big and is already been done.
On Nov 14, 2007 11:36 AM, Bakul Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Put it another way. There are THOUSANDS of tools that you can't even
> > attempt to compile if you can't run configure. You can't run configure
> > w/out ba
I agree. Trying to do this in 4 months will end up as one of the too
many unfinished Plan9 related projects.
Lucho
On Nov 13, 2007 9:42 AM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As Forsyth says, this may not be such a great final-year project,
> > especially if you have only two mont
It is not necessary the message to be in a single block of memory.
The message header can be prepared in one block and the rest of the
data can be in a different one. As Eric said, all this is transport
specific.
Lucho
On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:38 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
That's one
On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:20 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
The opportunity still exists -- only one driver needs to implement
their numeric hack - 9p. Then the rest can be based off of that.
Unfortunately, evolution just comes slow and painful.
-eric
are 9p mesages really the right vehicle fo
I get similar errors when I try using the install CD on my IBM X31.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Antonin Vecera wrote:
I did pull and copied new updated /386/9load to /n/9fat
After that I cannot boot (in VMware). Here is my boot screen:
MBR...PBS2...Plan 9 from Bell Labs
ELCR: 0200
apm ax=f000
responding to invalidation requests, and cease all its leases. Why
make other
clients wait for more? I mean, assuming a central FS and clients
connected on star
to it.
On 11/1/07, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The 5 seconds lease might work in the local network case, but not
cach
The 5 seconds lease might work in the local network case, but not
caching at all is going to work out pretty well too. What if you want
to cache over Internet and you round-trip is 3-4 seconds :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Russ Cox wrote:
The fact is we have loose consistency now, we just
Leases are good for purposes other than caching, for example locking.
I don't see much difference if the protocol is going to define a
special filename or a new message. There are other small details that
need to be solved -- the server and the client need to be extra
careful that no events
On Nov 1, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Sape Mullender wrote:
One could have only client-server-client calls like this:
Tcache asks whether the server is prepared to cache
Rcache makes lease available with parameters, Rerror says no.
Tlease says, ok start my lease now (almost immediately follows Rache)
You have a caching server (a separate machine) that caches files from
servers that are far away. Some of the file servers it caches are
synthetic. You mount one of them in /net. The server doesn't know that.
On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:03 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
The dynamic nature of namespace
We already agreed on a solution. Nobody is interested in implementing it.
On 9/8/07, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > have you compared its performance to webdav?
> >
> > I don't have any numbers with me, but I would expect 9P to work
> > faster than WebDAV since 9P works one layer below HTT
The simple solution would be to disable setuid/setgid flags for
private namespaces of users other than root. And then (not so simple)
fix programs
that don't work :)
Lucho
On 9/7/07, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 9/7/07, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
On 8/10/07, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> after the .u debacle when I think the
May be the .u debacle happened only in your head?
> In any case, it would be nice if people considering changes to the
> protocol could be a bit more open about it so we could have some
> discussion about how muc
]> wrote:
> On 8/10/07, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It is not that hard to create few setuid helper programs that make
> > Linux support Plan9-like private namespaces. The union mount would be
> > tricky, is unionfs accepted in the standard kernel yet
It is not that hard to create few setuid helper programs that make
Linux support Plan9-like private namespaces. The union mount would be
tricky, is unionfs accepted in the standard kernel yet?
Thanks,
Lucho
On 8/10/07, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/10/07, Eric Van Hensbergen <
http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-07.htm
On 8/10/07, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/10/07, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > elitist splitters
> >
> >
>
> uh, what?
>
> you lost me. Not hard to do, I admit.
>
> ron
>
>
vacfs, the venti-backed file server is read-only. Not sure if that's
what Enrico needs.
Thanks,
Lucho
On 8/10/07, Gabriel Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello
>
> venti compress the blocks it stores iirc, so if you put the data into
> a fossil which dumps to a venti server, you will be com
On 6/30/07, Kris Maglione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 07:39:12PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>I'm not sure if spfs sends this zero or libixp doesn't decode it.
>With npfs I've got the same problem.
spfs sends it. styxmon has nothing to do with libixp.
>But it's interesti
There is nothing wrong with iounit being set to zero.
Lucho
On 6/29/07, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* Kris Maglione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
> That's strange. I've never tried it with u9fs servers, but it
> works fine for me with libixp, lib9p, and Inferno servers.
I'v
I think US East Coast would be closer/more affordable for the
participants from Europe. But whoever volunteers to organize IWP9 has
the right to choose the place :)
Lucho
On Jun 14, 2007, at 12:08 PM, ron minnich wrote:
On 6/14/07, Francisco J Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Plan9 installation crashes at arbitrary places if acceleration level
is other than disabled (and disabled is very slow).
On Jun 8, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Anant Narayanan wrote:
Gorka Guardiola wrote:
I am using build 3188, not sure if this is version 3, but I guess so.
The network needed a patch,
I think you mean xcpu, not v9fs tree :)
Lucho
On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:43 AM, ron minnich wrote:
I like spfs. It works fine for me. Get the v9fs tree and look at the
distribution server that ollie and I wrote -- it's a nice, simple
example of a combined client/server and it was quite eas
Qt is C++.
Lucho
On Feb 26, 2007, at 2:19 AM, ron minnich wrote:
On 2/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sure, but at the moment that's official and Sean Moss Pultz the
project manager for the Neo1973 seems to be quite enthusiastic about
the product.
What you need
Try 9p instead of 9P.
Thanks,
Lucho
On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Adriano Verardo wrote:
Hi, all.
I've configured Gentoo' v9fs without any problems (both dynamic and
in-kernel) but I cannot use it because the mount utility doesn't
recognize the "9P" file system type.
Where can I
Hi,
To get the ethernet card working, you need to use the special kernel
that David Leimbach has on his site. Check the archives for the
correct location.
Thanks,
Lucho
On Feb 9, 2007, at 4:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Recently I retried to install Plan 9 to Parallels
What does Java ME mean these days? Is it Java KVM, or Java CVM?
Porting the first one to Plan9 is easy, I have the CVM code (sans
graphics and hotspot) ported too. If it is released as open source
and someone wants to finish the port, I can try to find what I have.
Thanks,
Lucho
On
This may solve the no-firefox-and-mplayer-for-plan9 problem, but I
don't see how it solves the no-plan9-drivers-for-my-laptop one.
Lucho
On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:01 PM, ron minnich wrote:
On 12/12/06, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It'd be sweet to have something I cou
There are many 9P servers coming with p9p. You can also write your
own servers either using p9p or lib{s,n}pfs.
Lucho
On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:58 AM, csant wrote:
Wow, does Ubuntu come with a 9p kernel module by default? That's
sweet...
all part of the virtue of being in the mainlin
I'd vote for New York, but Austin is fine too :)
Thanks,
Lucho
On Dec 11, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
I can probably pull resources together to host here in Austin at IBM,
but I'd rather go to Sydney :)
-eric
On 12/11/06, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
You can try mounting as yourself using mount.9P. You can get it from
v9fs CVS repository (v9fs.sourceforge.net:/app/mount.9P). It needs
p9p installed and factotum running on the Linux box. I didn't test it
with the latest v9fs code, let me know if it doesn't work for you.
Thanks,
L
Secret password? I thought it was a PIN number...
On Jul 7, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What should I read instead or as well as?
jim! The secret channel, of course! Have you forgotten the secret
password again?
ron
And if you got scared and don't talk about your acme modifications, I'll
talk about Java on Plan9 ;)
Thanks,
Lucho
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 08:54:04PM -0600, Ronald G Minnich said:
> Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> >Just to remind you, add more noise to the list, and say that
> >we will g
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:45:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> i don't know if it's good code or bad code in general. i was pointing out
> that it is possible to
> catch a call to sysfatal and do something else, since you seemed to indicate
> that was
> not possible.
How can you find from _
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:45:29PM -0700, Roman Shaposhnick said:
> Now, don't get me wrong -- sometimes you have to make an extra effort
> to at least pretend that it is solvable. Especially when you are in a
> business of building commercial software. I can appreciate it. But lets
> move
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:23:11PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On Fri Jun 9 19:18:09 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:51:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > > On Fri Jun 9 18:48:44 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the seneri
You are concentrating too much on the particular example I gave (emalloc)
and not on the issue of exiting from a library. I don't think it is a
library job to decide whether the application should die or not.
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:10:24PM -0700, Roman Shaposhnick said:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2006
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:51:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On Fri Jun 9 18:48:44 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > what is the senerio you're thinking of where malloc could fail
> > > and you can recover?
> >
> >
> > Let's say you have a fossil like file server and you can
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:29:37PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> if you take that view, then you can't use paging because the
> kernel might kill your process off on overcommit.
Or you should disable the overcommit (if possible).
> i'm not sure i understand how malloc failure can be a common
>
There are cases when you want to leave the output of the program in
consistent state before you die (and you don't need extra memory to
achieve that consistency). Or even if the program cannot continue its
work, it would rather lurk around and wait for somebody to rescue it
instead of just
Another example is using emalloc in libraries. I agree that it is
much simpler to just give up when there is not enough memory (which
is also not very likely case), but is that how the code is supposed
to be written if you are not doing research?
Thanks,
Lucho
On Jun 9, 2006, at 4:
Who is going to make the changes then? Do you think the system is
perfect and there is nothing that can be made better?
Lucho
On Jun 7, 2006, at 7:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the tricky bit: values of `slightly' in `slightly dirtier' vary
widely. My value might be epsilon
We have to choose between having clean system that is used by handful
of people, or slightly dirtier one (but still better than Linux for
example) that can attract more users.
I don't think the Plan9 community has the resources (both in numbers
and quality) to continue the development. We n
I don't understand why is all that fuss about the gcc port. If you don't
like it, don't use it. Few of the current Plan9 users are going to use it.
But if the gcc port brings more developers to Plan9, I don't see how that
can be bad.
Thanks,
Lucho
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 04:04:27PM -0700
On Jun 7, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnick wrote:
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 01:17:25PM -0600, Latchesar Ionkov wrote:
We need support for C++ and Fortran.
Oh my! It'll be a brand new can worms to open :-(
It will use GNU binutils.
What about libc ? Surely you can't e
12:07:55PM -0700, Roman Shaposhnick said:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:46:10PM -0600, Latchesar Ionkov wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:58:35AM -0700, Corey said:
> > >
> > > Two questions - quite likely naive, so please be kind!
> > >
> > > #1 -
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:58:35AM -0700, Corey said:
>
> Two questions - quite likely naive, so please be kind!
>
> #1 - How difficult approximately would it be to port a
> more current release of gcc to plan9, say 4.1?
It's in my TODO list. It shouldn't be too difficult.
Thanks,
Lucho
IRC kids & coding??? You sure live in a parallel universe, there are
no such phenomena in the one I live in :)
Lucho
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
Good evening.
Am Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:50:58 -0600 schrieb "andrey mirtchovski"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
now is probab
I know about that one, but it depends on too many external jars. I
need a simple 9P2000 client library.
On May 26, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
How can I get that library. I started writing one myself, but if
the one you
mention is good enough, it will save me the effort :)
Th
Hi,
How can I get that library. I started writing one myself, but if the one you
mention is good enough, it will save me the effort :)
Thanks,
Lucho
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:51:05AM +0200, Fco. J. Ballesteros said:
> : I believe that the current Styx will interoperate with 9P2000, but
Another solution would be to refuse to honor setuid if the
namespace allows a user to mount arbitrary file systems.
Lucho
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 03:34:53PM -0500, Russ Cox said:
> > A masking bind over /etc/passwd could be disasterous
> > on Unix and I don't think anyone has really solve
Talking about t-shirts, I liked the ones that Vita Nuova used to sell. Is
there any chance to have them from Cafe Press (or any other place)?
Thanks,
Lucho
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 08:16:41AM -0500, Eric Van Hensbergen said:
> Cafe Press (finally) added black t-shirts (although they are a
You can generate fonts in subpixel mode, but they are not much different
than the greyscale ones created by antialias. The reason is that when a
color image is specified as a mask in libdraw, it converts it to greyscale
and applies the resulting mask to every color channel.
Thanks,
Lucho
I think the magic most ttf fonts use to look good on screen is embedding
bitmap fonts for the small sizes.
Thanks,
Lucho
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:25:39PM -0500, Russ Cox said:
> > i did for a while and you can find the latest source on sources or on
> > the web. i heard there's another
You can ignore the subpixel mode -- libdraw doesn't support it.
Thanks,
Lucho
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:03:29PM -0600, erik quanstrom said:
> i've been using a version that makes an attempt to generate as few subfonts
> as possible.
> the last time i goggled ttf2subf the website locate
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 06:21:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Maybe the bottom of clunk(5) should clarify that close() only
> generates a Tclunk when it's the last reference to the fd is closed?
Why should clunk(5) describe how an object defined outside of 9P protocol
use Tclunk?
Lu
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:50:05PM -0500, Joel Salomon said:
> On 2/13/06, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You want to use GNU binutils? It would be very hard to make GNU binutils to
> > support Plan9 object file format. The options are to use ?c/?l/acid
C support working, but then I got distracted and didn't finish the
C++ part. IIRC there were some changes required in 8a/8l for the exception
handling support.
Thanks,
Lucho
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:41:51PM -0800, Paul Lalonde said:
>
> On 13-Feb-06, at 4:39 PM, Latchesar Ionk
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 01:21:22PM -0700, Ronald G Minnich said:
>
> The reason I wanted to start with gcc 0.9, a few years ago, was that in
> the early days gcc would compile under just about any OS and C compiler
> -- the newer gcc's only seem to compile under gcc. So you start with gcc
> 0.9
I didn't try tapefs, but ramfs in p9p is slower than u9fs (even after the
fid lookup is improved).
Thanks,
Lucho
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 07:31:44PM -0600, erik quanstrom said:
>
> On Tue Jan 24 18:24:33 CST 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:10:41PM -0600, [EMA
Is there ramfs for FUSE?
Thanks,
Lucho
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 03:37:54PM -0600, Eric Van Hensbergen said:
> On 1/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon Jan 23 20:21:36 CST 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:06:09PM -0500, Russ Cox said
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:10:41PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On Mon Jan 23 20:21:36 CST 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:06:09PM -0500, Russ Cox said:
> > > It appears to match the kernel better, so the implementation
> > > should be simpler. (As soon as you wan
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:06:09PM -0500, Russ Cox said:
> It appears to match the kernel better, so the implementation
> should be simpler. (As soon as you want to talk between
It is much simpler (and probably faster), and that's a big win for FUSE:
$ cat fs/fuse/*.[ch] | wc -l
Tk is almost working with the dis version from Andrey's site. I remember
that I was able to play tetris from Inferno's distribution with it. Dis
doesn't support the wm* layers from inferno. The Tk stuff needs some minor
fixes in order to work correctly (if I remember correctly, it didn't
translate
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 01:36:23PM -0800, Skip Tavakkolian said:
> is anyone working on it? (searched sources already)
> at times it feels like tk is needed. maybe js+tk or awk+tk.
Why not limbo+tk? :)
Lucho
Hi,
There are few bugs in p9p related to 9P2000.u support that prevent 9p to
work with vacfs. I already sent a patch to Russ that fixes them.
The easier workaround that you can try if you don't wait for the bugfixes is
to change the version that 9pserve supports to 9P2000 (9pserve.c:219).
Another good thing about VMs is that you can migrate them to another server
if you want to service the one that they are running on...
Thanks,
Lucho
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 08:04:34AM -0400, Brantley Coile said:
> i too am both curious as to the motivations for VM and completely open
> mi
I don't think you can run xen inside Windows. Xen is always in control of
the hardware, it can let some of the domains to access some of it directly,
but the MMU and the interrupts are always handled by Xen.
Lucho
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 02:26:27PM -0500, Gorka guardiola said:
> I meant
An example:
typedef struct {
arch_vcpu_info_t arch;
} vcpu_info_t;
For x86_32 and x86_64 arch_vcpu_info_t is defined as:
typedef struct {
} arch_vcpu_info_t;
Lucho
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:36:58PM -0700, David Leimbach
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